Fact: if one uses logistic regression to predict O-ring damage as a function of air temperature at time of the Challenger launch, using historical data available to the managers then, there was a 99.96% chance of O-ring damage (the odds were >2500:1 of there being damage). Of course O-ring damage had been observed on previous launches without catastrophic failure, but still the mismanagement was monumental. The hubris of the managerial class never ceases to amaze me.
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Sonos Execs Launched Ill-Received App Despite Employee Protests
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Thanks! iPhone 12 mini. I’ve done Trueplay previously at my last apartment, so not sure what’s going on here, perhaps just a new app issue. I’ll find out when they get back to me in a week 🙃
Don't you mean ". . . . companies pinching Pennies" while paying out millions to upper management?
Classic bad senior leadership. When your rank and file employees care more about customer than the C-suite you have some serious organizational rot on your hands. RIP Sonos.
I thought the Atmos + Airplay was an Apple limitation that they fix with iOS 18, need to look into this since I also have the Era 300 ⁉️
Of course. Whenever management screws up, they go on making their inflated salaries while the rank and file (who warned of this impending disaster) have to pay the price.
A series of major management and execs shakeups should be happening, but I won't hold my breath.
I just looked up Sonos' CEO Patrick Spence on LinkedIn and saw that prior to his 12 years at Sonos, he was in a leadership role at Blackberry for 14+ years. I remember how Blackberry handled modernization of their product and it didn't turn out well. Just sayin'.
It would seem that Instead of firing Employees, they should start firing the CEO first, I was about to buy some Sonos Stuff, thank God I did not
You can take the "engineering" out of that sentence and it still holds true. Get MBA holders out please; they're worthless.
I have not tried today's update yet, but the issue with the app has been trying to play Atmos music through their app. The apple music playlist jumps all around.
I just tried Airplay on an brand new iPhone 16 Pro on iOS 18, the dolby Atmos songs still get reduced to High Res Lossless. Great sound , but i got the ERA 300's for Atmos! When I tried it on the updated (yesterday) Sonos app- still can't play Apple playlist, taps arent registered, songs won't play..
I have been a beta tester for several years. Sonos as a product is impressive and quite good. The current beta iOS app remains absolute crap and simply DOES NOT WORK.
I am still having to unplug and/or reset individual speakers almost daily.
Apparently, this new app was mostly the doing of the CEO. His “apology” is about as hollow as they come. He should be the one forced to walk the plank. Not engineers who spoke up.
I sure won’t be buying any new Sonos products anytime soon.
I am still having to unplug and/or reset individual speakers almost daily.
Apparently, this new app was mostly the doing of the CEO. His “apology” is about as hollow as they come. He should be the one forced to walk the plank. Not engineers who spoke up.
I sure won’t be buying any new Sonos products anytime soon.
You can’t learn from your mistakes if you’ve never made one. MBA school of management.
There's a story that when the people in charge at
Reminiscent of Microsoft's Ballmer saying words to the effect of "smartphones are hard, Apple's not going to just walk in and get any notable part of the market". I think someone from Palm (remember them?) expressed similar thoughts.
(Edit: typed wrong company name.)
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How is it impossible? I work with software and we have millions of clients ”out there”. All clients talk to the backends on average 10 times per day. They also download around 20 smallish files every day.
These clients cost well under 1$ per client per year including hosting for about a hundred servers processing the data.
The Sonos App is distributed via app stores and most processing happens on customer devices / environment. Old speakers are well known and require little effort untill someone requires to rewrite everything.
Basically, in a normal case there is very little extra cost supporting the speakers for a long time. Also with speakers people are accustomed to them working for a long time, and there is not huge progress in 5 years.
Even for Apple, supporting old hardware would not cause significant costs. They stop supporting them after 5 years to sell you something new, not because extending support would be costly. With computers progress is faster so they get away with it.
It’s a shame how Sonos have fallen from grace, before Apple launched the OG HomePod I had a few Sonos ones, a Five and a soundbar. The Sonos App even back then was a little so-so, but the speakers were great. Apple launched the OG HomePod and I now have two OG HomePods and 5 minis in the house as they all worked seamlessly with Siri to play music. The Sonos units went on E-bay and I never looked back.
I tested 2 HomePods vs an arc soundbar and sub. The Sonos system absolutely blows away the HomePods and I sold them. The HomePods are terrible at virtualizing a center channel. Sonos soundbars don’t need a separate L/R because it has those speakers already built into the soundbar. The Sonos system was not designed to be a discrete system. Otherwise you would just build a traditional home theater system. I have both and I would say the Sonos system holds its own and the sound processing for Dolby atmos is quite impressive.
Use an Apple TV to get Atmos. Era 300s on their own cannot do atmos. You’ll also need a soundbar with HDMI. I know it’s probably not what you want but it works.
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Doesn't surprise me at all that Senior Leadership and Execs ruined it. They're almost always the ones with the most influence to make a decision whilst being furthest away from their own customers. It ruins almost all companies once they reach a certain scale, and usually comes hand in hand with investors which are just the most useless bunch of companies ever.
This is partly why Apple has been so incredibly annoying and disappointing with the music hardware. The team seems to keep producing great individual products, but whatever is happening internally within Apple it is getting held back from software and ecosystem experiences that are just missing.
It should be an Apple 'magic' experience right now that I can just add a Homepod mini to a system as centre channel. Add another two as rears. The music follows my phone or watch around the house if I ask Siri to do it with different homepods/minis and more.
The brand damage is astounding. I cannot believe that they can’t see how they’re still on fire, and even if they fix all of the bugs they’re still left with a really poorly designed app.
It’s the “new outlook” of the streaming audio apps.
I have never used the app a ton and my main floor and basement entertainment center setups with sonos continue to work fine. Those who use the app to do whole-home audio configurations must be the ones who got railroaded by the update.
I imagine the reason they haven't gotten things fixed quicker is that so much of their customer base fits my use case these days. HDMI eARC still works and the audio doesn't seem worse off than before...many people may not notice. Unfortunately those who bought into their whole product offer and functionality are the evangelist free advertising that creates more folks like me...
I imagine the reason they haven't gotten things fixed quicker is that so much of their customer base fits my use case these days. HDMI eARC still works and the audio doesn't seem worse off than before...many people may not notice. Unfortunately those who bought into their whole product offer and functionality are the evangelist free advertising that creates more folks like me...