And don't get me wrong, if they came out with a soundbar and surrounds I would consider swapping out my Sonos, but I'm not going to stand aside while people try to make more out of the HomePod than what it is or try to trash Sonos.
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Sonos Makes a Spotify Playlist for Apple's HomePod With Hidden 'We're Going to Be Friends' Message
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Thank you, that is much clearer. I was intrigued by your comment but was just ignorant enough to not understand what you were saying.
I have 4 sonos play ones, their playbar, their sub... and a couple of 2nd gen 5's. So yep I'm invested in Sonos. But I tried the play one and its implementation of alexa and returned it. Sonos is not beyond criticism and to do so is not trashing them. But its well known the play one was rushed to market and alexa is a mixed bag on it. My echo dot and the rest of my sonos speakers do Alexa much better.
Having said that... I am not going to return my HomePod. It DOES sound incredible and fits my office fine. It trounces the play one. and in my office, i like it better than a pair of sonos play ones. My larger living room, maybe not. And siri may be limited but works. very, very well.
You can have both.
Sorry, not going to stand by and let blind loyalty dictate what I own or like.
I've got some friends who installed Sonos and every time I visit they need me to go in and fix the system up. Until I'm there, they've given up and are just playing music from one Sonos speaker despite installing about 6 of them.
I despise the Sonos App and that awful system.
I despise the Sonos App and that awful system.
Can you control Spotify on a HomePod with your voice? No, you can't. AirPlay is not "integration", it's just another streaming protocol. Don't get me wrong, I love AirPlay and use it every day at home, but you can't claim that HomePod offers any meaningful integration with Spotify.Spotify works on the HomePod. It just relies on AirPlay. Why someone would buy one these? Cuz they want to do so.
Wait. Apple Music won't work on Sonos Alexa? Why would anyone buy one of these overpriced Sonos Alexa devices again?
Some things will never be compatible with each other. It's the way it always is. You need to pick and choose what you want to use and choose the device that best suits your needs.
1) You CAN use Spotify with HomePod, you just need an Apple device to AirPlay to it
2) You CAN use Apple Music with Sonos Alexa, you just need to use the app and not talk to Alexa.
You can only play Apple Music via Siri, everything else you just airplay, which kinda defeats the purpose of the whole “smart speaker” thing.
That’s not to mention the whole “Siri sucks” thing that people have been complaining about for years now.
If you read the first comment I responded to, I was responding to a blind loyalist.I have 4 sonos play ones, their playbar, their sub... and a couple of 2nd gen 5's. So yep I'm invested in Sonos. But I tried the play one and its implementation of alexa and returned it. Sonos is not beyond criticism and to do so is not trashing them. But its well known the play one was rushed to market and alexa is a mixed bag on it. My echo dot and the rest of my sonos speakers do Alexa much better.
Having said that... I am not going to return my HomePod. It DOES sound incredible and fits my office fine. It trounces the play one. and in my office, i like it better than a pair of sonos play ones. My larger living room, maybe not. And siri may be limited but works. very, very well.
You can have both.
Sorry, not going to stand by and let blind loyalty dictate what I own or like.
"Sonos is dead" is not criticism, it's trolling. That's what I'm responding to.
I own two macs, wife and I both have iPhones, an iPad, a Google Home, a Google Home Mini and a bunch of Sonos. I'm not blindly loyal to anyone.
If Apple had that attitude with the iPod or the iPhone then Apple wouldn’t be the dominant player it is in music and phones, because if iTunes didn’t work with Windows, Apple wasn’t even 15% of the laptop or desktop market in the early 2000s. Working with other platforms is what helped Apple gain dominance.
Last time a company welcomed Apple to their market, it was Rdio... Rdio sold to PandoraRdio for $75 million about half of what they had raised from VCs.
Pandora which itself is having issues keeping afloat with competition from Spotify and Apple Music.
Apple has cash and time. 1st gen products are never super polished by gen 3 there is some momentum, just look at the iPod, and most latest example the Apple Watch.
Pandora which itself is having issues keeping afloat with competition from Spotify and Apple Music.
Apple has cash and time. 1st gen products are never super polished by gen 3 there is some momentum, just look at the iPod, and most latest example the Apple Watch.
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I’ve read all your posts. But sorry “but I'm not going to stand aside while people try to make more out of the HomePod than what it is or try to trashSonos.” sounds like blind loyalty to me. Just calling it as I see it.
Have you actually seen or heard in person a HomePod? Bet not. But you are going to tell us what it is? You don’t think Sonos is in trouble? Once again, because you have not actually heard a HomePod. Because *I* have. Listening to mine right now. And you better believe Sonos is scared. Hey, don’t get me wrong, would love for Sonos to stick around, I am invested there too, and I was upset Apple didn’t buy them and start there. But now I know why. This HomePod is similar to a Sonos like a Mercedes is in the same league as a go-kart. As for regular speakers? Yeah not even close. They are skateboards. Pretty funny, I asked Siri to play Black Sabbath and just heard “this is the beginning of the end”
This is just like people arguing against Face ID that had never used it. Game changer. HomePod, game changer. You don’t know voice control until your speaker is so loud you can barely hear yourself, but Siri hears you to turn the volume down to 20%.
Total game changer. I can be in the next room and talk to Siri. Ive used Alexa plenty, and am amazed how easier Siri is on the HomePod versus Sonos One. Direct comparison. Owned both.
I preordered mine from Best Buy. Wasn’t going to let other people tell me what I should think. When I got there (lunch time) there was literally a dozen of them lined up on the waiting to be picked up line. I asked the woman how many sonos had been selling. She looked confused...’none, but these HomePods are flying out of the store’
And as i am walking to the door, my speaker in arm, a couple of Best Buy Geeks came up and said, ‘have you seen the demo??” And now i was confused, “um guys, don’t you see i have already bought one?” But they insisted on showing me. We walk about thirty feet and stop. And the guy turns and looks at me and says “Siri what is the temperature?” People were talking. Music was blaring, and i hear from a couple of aisles over “brrrrrr is a chilly 28 degrees”. They geek squad was jumping over and down. “We keep testing it, its amazing, go ahead and ask it anything. “. I’m like great, but where is it ?”
There are a lot of critics out there. I was skeptical. But this is a total game changer.
By all means, talk about sonos all you want. But really don’t compare them until you have actually tried a HomePod. All that theory on compression is great... but the reality is what the HomePod does with sound ought to be illegal is so sinfully good.
Sorry Apple. I’m all for your products. However, I have too much money invested in Sonos speakers already.
Not for me I’m afraid.
Not for me I’m afraid.
"Spotify works on the HomePod" about as well as Spotify works on literally any speaker on Earth. By your logic, Spotify also works on a 1975 Pinto with a cassette-to-headphone jack adapter. Since this is a discussion thread about a voice-controlled speaker which has no voice command integration with Spotify... what exactly is your point?You're 100% right. I guess it's a good thing that I made no such claim.
I have 4 sonos play ones, their playbar, their sub... and a couple of 2nd gen 5's. So yep I'm invested in Sonos. But I tried the play one and its implementation of alexa and returned it. Sonos is not beyond criticism and to do so is not trashing them. But its well known the play one was rushed to market and alexa is a mixed bag on it. My echo dot and the rest of my sonos speakers do Alexa much better.
Having said that... I am not going to return my HomePod. It DOES sound incredible and fits my office fine. It trounces the play one. and in my office, i like it better than a pair of sonos play ones. My larger living room, maybe not. And siri may be limited but works. very, very well.
You can have both.
Sorry, not going to stand by and let blind loyalty dictate what I own or like.
My wish, all these speakers would settle on a standard connection, so we the consumer could choose the one that meets our sound quality and pricing needs. Like the wires of old days. Did not matter what speaker was on the end of the wire. Consumers choice. This lack of integration, forced echo systems, withholding their music services, really annoying.
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Thanks for sharing. Fairly confident I have more in Sonos, but it’s not a contest. And I’m loving my HP besides my Sonos. My guess is once Sonos people actually play and listen to the HP they, you, will find a reason to get one too.
For me airplay is the difference. There are thing I just played On homepod that my Sonos can't. I read some one say sure but you Have to use your phone or iPad well so do I if I want to use my sonos
I believe they mean streaming over AirPlay from your phone. Start playing over AirPlay on your phone, then turn off your phone. Will the music stop. Do the same with the Sonos app, music will continue. Unless you have Alexa integrated with Sonos, correct to start the music or control it, the phone app required.
If the Sonos system has an Amazon Alexia device, echo dot or Echo speaker configured it should work. I do not have Audiable account so unable to test. Amazon and Sonos have had difficulties with Audiable for some reason.
I should ask you what is your point? Fact: Spotify works on the HomePod via AirPlay. There's nothing in my quote about a claim of integration. That falsehood belongs to you and you alone. You've built a narrative around something you said and attributed it to me. By my logic, you are arguing a point made by you for you. I'm just gonna let you have it all to yourself.
HA HA HA HA HA!! This is hilarious. I want to buy a Sonos speaker now just for this cleverness. LOL.
So do you want a good looking speaker, good sound, or cheap sound? You said all three, in that order. According to most initial impressions, HomePod wins in the audio category. Up to you if it’s worth the extra cost.
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Spotify will work just fine. AirPlay.