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And with respect to the question of "has this storage increased", at least as far as user experience is concerned, I would guess "probably not". Otherwise the older hardware would not be able to keep up, and Sonos has already said they think the future is in streaming music. More and more people just subscribe to a service like Spotify or Apple Music rather than rip a bunch of CDs to audio files stored on a local network server (I still want to do the latter, but it's just so convenient to do the former...) so I would not expect a lot of change on that front.
Right. Due to hardware constraints, I've had to split my library into three parts to offset the 64000 track limit. Other than that, and a lack of album shuffle, it's a great music system.
 
Not sure why you would spend money, but others might spend money since the smart speakers can be used by multiple people (family/friends), don't require a phone to be tied up playing music, and is used as a stationary product; not mobile. Sometimes you have to look beyond your personal use case.
That doesn't explain it. I should have asked "Why would anyone spend money on something that merely does what their phone already does without being tied to an outlet?" And I guess I should have mentioned that many families (most?) have more than one phone with that capability.

Sure, you can find a special use case for this, but does that really mean there's a significant market for it?
 
Hello- EVERY company in the world can be bought even if not for sale. Happens all the time.

Somebody knocks on the door and says " I will give you $$$$ for your company if you will sell it to me today". Or something similar.

Really.. did you just ask that?

My original quote was answering someone saying they are "surprised Tim Cook hasn't bought the Santa Barbara company", it seems on this forum a lot that people think Apple should "just buy the competition" all the time, whether it's a small start up or some of the biggest companies in the world like Samsung. I don't believe EVERY company in the world can be bought and I think it's naive thinking if you believe that to be true, not all companies, especially private successful companies (like Sonos) are hoping for someone even bigger than them to come along and buy them, It's not always about money believe it or not. So yes, really... I DID just ask that.
 
How do you know about when you receive it if ordered directly from Sonos -- I ordered directly from Sonos but have no such information that I will receive it early. Plus, I read that even if you get it early, it won't work until Tuesday (the 24th) when the software needed is released. True? Not true?


My Sonos One shipped two days ago. I have the tracking number. They are shipping early.
 
My original quote was answering someone saying they are "surprised Tim Cook hasn't bought the Santa Barbara company", it seems on this forum a lot that people think Apple should "just buy the competition" all the time, whether it's a small start up or some of the biggest companies in the world like Samsung. I don't believe EVERY company in the world can be bought and I think it's naive thinking if you believe that to be true, not all companies, especially private successful companies (like Sonos) are hoping for someone even bigger than them to come along and buy them, It's not always about money believe it or not. So yes, really... I DID just ask that.

If only the Cadbury board had that attitude back in 2010.
 
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No, I think it will be better than early listeners experienced.

When people put it into their own rooms and experience the real-time modeling (after taking measurements of your surroundings first) they’re going to be surprised by how good it sounds. Sonos can’t match the HomePod in this area.

Does it work like my 1980's stereo equalizer I owned? Oh, my.
 
I put an order in for the One earlier today.

Main reason is that even though I think the HomePod will be a fantastic device, I liked the openness that the One/Sonos will provide.

If only when we’re entertaining that anyone can download the Sonos app from their respective App Store and get stuck in adding songs to the queue whereas if I got the HomePod, anyone with an Android phone would be left out.

The fact that it will get Airplay 2 as well next year was great to hear and just added another positive to getting the One.

Looking forward to getting it next week.
 
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Does it work like my 1980's stereo equalizer I owned? Oh, my.

No, it doesn’t. Unless your old equalizer had 8 channels of EQ (instead of only 2), had an array of mics to analyze acoustics, could control the amplifier for the bass driver to alter how the cone moves to improve bass response and could perform time delay individually on all 8 drivers.
 
I can't pull the trigger without Audible support, and that's been promised for over a year (after breaking it in 2015).
 
The question that I can't seem to find a clear answer to is, is this speaker a perfect replacement for the combo of a Play:1 + Amazon Echo? Are there any limitations to the Echo functions as compared to an actual Echo, or is this basically a Play:1 with an Echo inside. Anyone know for sure?

Think of it as an integration. Not aware of any limitations.
 
My Sonos One will be here tomorrow. If you ordered directly from Sonos, you get it early.

That being said...

I would have gone with the HomePod, but the issue is that the device is not compatible with Amazon Music Unlimited. That's a big deal.

Additionally, I am so immersed in the Sonos culture (I have four Play:5 speakers) that it just felt natural to go with the Sonos One.

I am VERY impressed with the audio from the Sonos Play:5 speakers in a stereo setup. I have yet to hear the Sonos Play One. I am certain it will be a step-down, but probably comparable to the HomePod.

Everyone who has heard both has said the Sonos One will not be competition for the Homepod based on sound quality. Apple showed it compared to a Play 3 as the target. It should also be obvious from looking at the specs for both.
Every streaming app uses Airplay including Amazon Music but of course Siri only means no voice control via a Homepod.

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I have some too, but they won't get here til Monday. I don't think anyone will get them this week.

Shipping and arriving are two different things and I doubt anyone will get them before the 24th.
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I put an order in for the One earlier today.

Main reason is that even though I think the HomePod will be a fantastic device, I liked the openness that the One/Sonos will provide.

If only when we’re entertaining that anyone can download the Sonos app from their respective App Store and get stuck in adding songs to the queue whereas if I got the HomePod, anyone with an Android phone would be left out.

The fact that it will get Airplay 2 as well next year was great to hear and just added another positive to getting the One.

Looking forward to getting it next week.

Airsonos might work for now.
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I put an order in for the One earlier today.

Main reason is that even though I think the HomePod will be a fantastic device, I liked the openness that the One/Sonos will provide.

If only when we’re entertaining that anyone can download the Sonos app from their respective App Store and get stuck in adding songs to the queue whereas if I got the HomePod, anyone with an Android phone would be left out.

The fact that it will get Airplay 2 as well next year was great to hear and just added another positive to getting the One.

Looking forward to getting it next week.

I don't consider requiring the Sonos app to be very open but yes it does give a lot more possibilities. Sonos has apparently realized finally that they have to give alternatives to the app.
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Surprised SONOS didn't make more of a big deal that existing Alexa devices now integrate with SONOS speakers.

Also very surprised Tim Cook hasn't bought the Santa Barbara company. The perfect fit imo and at say $150M a damm sight less than the silly $3.5B Beats purchase.

It's all over their web site and they are offering $25 off the Echo dot for existing Songs users. Not sure what else they can do.
 
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I don't consider requiring the Sonos app to be very open but yes it does give a lot more possibilities. Sonos has apparently realized finally that they have to give alternatives to the app.

You know what I mean though-if I have people using Android phones coming over, they can get the app and contribute to the music as opposed to the HomePod where only you could only use iPhones/iPads/Siri.

And as much as I love my Apple products and being an Apple household, this was one area where the openness of another product won out.
 
I am surprised someone is questioning the future of Sonos compared to Apple.
Do you think Apple is going to take over the speaker industry? Me thinks not.
A single HomePod speaker goes for $350.
Two Sonos speakers can be had for $50 more and I bet it kicks the crap out of one HomePod speaker.
Sonos will play mostly any music service. You can add dozens of music and Internet radio stations to it.
HomePod is, well, Apple Music.
I am not knocking the HomePod. It's just that it is severely limited. After becoming a Sonos owner, I am very impressed with the quality of their speakers.

Sonos is doing poorly financially. They have had layoffs and multiple CEO's recently. They would probably be very glad to be acquired by Apple. It's not a question of taking over the "speaker industry" because Sonos does not remotely own that industry. Apple has much more and better engineering talent than Sonos.
As others have already said there is no way a Sonos One is going to be better than a Homepod.
Every streaming service can be used with the Homepod because they all support Airplay. I would much rather use that than the proprietary Sonos app. Lots of others would too which is why Sonos is opening up and supporting Airplay 2. They have to.
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You know what I mean though-if I have people using Android phones coming over, they can get the app and contribute to the music as opposed to the HomePod where only you could only use iPhones/iPads/Siri.
And as much as I love my Apple products and being an Apple household, this was one area where the openness of another product won out.

Yes I do agree with you. However there is an Apple Music app for Android and you can also do airplay from android. But I doubt many Android users will buy a Homepod.
I love powered speakers and have Kef LS50 wireless in the living room and Vanatoo One speakers in the bedroom with an Apple TV connected to the optical port and and echo dot connected to the speaker RCA ports. I can clean all that up with two Sonos Ones and will probably do so although I need to test the sound quality against the Vanatoo's first. I doubt the Ones will sound as good but maybe close enough. if Sonos had put Alexa in a Play 5 it would have been a no brainer for me to get tow of those and I expect they will do so as soon they can.
But I wouldn't have bought anything from Sonos if they weren't clearly starting to free users from having to use the Sonos app. Also the Sonos home theater products are a mess which is another reason I haven't gone that direction.
I'll try the Homepod when it comes out too.
 
I wish SONOS had better integration with iOS / OS.. sometimes you just want to play something from your browser to SONOS, or phone to SONOS without going through the SONOS app (which is limited)

I mean, I wish bluetooth to wifi to SONOS would work... this is why bluetooth speakers are awesome.. you can throw anything at them and they play!
 
Yeah but Bluetooth sounds terrible. I only use it when I have to.
Airplay 2 will be really nice on Sonos devices.
I just got my Sonos One's today, they sound great.
I'm going to try AirSonos when i get a chance which gives Sonos Airplay now to see if it works on the Sonos One. My guess is it will.
https://github.com/stephen/airsonos
 
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Yeah but Bluetooth sounds terrible. I only use it when I have to.
Airplay 2 will be really nice on Sonos devices.
I just got my Sonos One's today, they sound great.
I'm going to try AirSonos when i get a chance which gives Sonos Airplay now to see if it works on the Sonos One. My guess is it will.
https://github.com/stephen/airsonos

I have tried this in the past. problem is, that I don't think it's being maintained. I had intermittent results.. I finally removed. it. let me know how it works for you. OS=Sierra..

https://github.com/stephen/airsonos/issues/385
 
I'm a little confused on why you would buy a smart speaker to connect to something like the Echo Dot, why not just get a normal bluetooth speaker for cheaper. I'm in the market of trying to find a decent sounding speaker to go with my Echo Dot.

Sorry for the ignorance, just trying to learn.
 
I'm a little confused on why you would buy a smart speaker to connect to something like the Echo Dot, why not just get a normal bluetooth speaker for cheaper. I'm in the market of trying to find a decent sounding speaker to go with my Echo Dot.

Sorry for the ignorance, just trying to learn.
Just a guess, but perhaps you're confused by Sonos' stupid product naming? The Sonos One is an Alexa enabled speaker, meaning you don't need an Echo connected to it. It has Alexa built in. However, their Play:1 (also written as Play One, and formerly informally called the "one") does not have Alexa built in. You would need a Dot in that instance.
 
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Just a guess, but perhaps you're confused by Sonos' stupid product naming? The Sonos One is an Alexa enabled speaker, meaning you don't need an Echo connected to it. It has Alexa built in. However, their Play:1 (also written as Play One, and formerly informally called the "one") does not have Alexa built in. You would need a Dot in that instance.

So basically the Play One is a very good sounding speaker?
 
So basically the Play One is a very good sounding speaker?
With the benefits that come with being from Sonos, namely, multi-room audio capable. Unlike many bluetooth speakers where they are either isolated or you can connect one more for stereo sound (I'm thinking of a pair of UE mini booms I have at home), you can connect a lot of Sonos speakers you have around the house to play the same music.
 
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With the benefits that come with being from Sonos, namely, multi-room audio capable. Unlike many bluetooth speakers where they are either isolated or you can connect one more for stereo sound (I'm thinking of a pair of UE mini booms I have at home), you can connect a lot of Sonos speakers you have around the house to play the same music.

That is EXACTLY what I wanted to know, thank you very much :)
 
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