For my blind wife sonos is great only one app to deal with and able to search all sources in one go. She is so happy with the setup though my wallet not so much.
I sort of expect Sonos to be an Apple acquisition and this is the first phase.
Think about it - Google/Amazon have similar products, but with their Siri competitors embedded in it. Instead of starting from scratch, acquire a player with similar brand/customer appeal - then evolve it to compete with the others. Plus, can you imagine what a 'speakerOS' on Sonos could be like? More than just streaming music services... They could evolve AirPlay to behave more like the patented Sonos protocol that keeps the wifi speakers in perfect sync.
Sonos has stated that their goal is to move the next generation of product towards speech recognition - but why start from scratch?
To me it seems like a great fit.
Separate app but the experience is not completely disconnected, Apple Music services are available to/through Sonos, and that's what Apple is trying to market with Sonos at the moment.
The problem with a separate Sonos app is dependency. I can't get all the functionality that Spotify has through the sonos app and when Spotify adds new functionality, it depends on when sonos adds it. If sonos had airplay, there would be no dependency. I know we can do the airport express thing but that's a janky workaround that is another dependency.
You're totally right and that might be the reason why Sonos may not be completely right for you. Sonos caters to the consumer on the simplest level, search/play music. But if you want something more than that, you might have to look elsewhere.
Any owners out there of Sonos Play 1 or Play 5 can recommend them over Bose or Bowers & Wilkins?
Are they any better for playing rock or electronic music?
seems odd. it doesn't have airplay.. has a seperate app and ecosystem.. why would apple want to break their E2E experience chain?
I get the sense the sale of Sonos products in Apple stores is a test case on whether they may look to buy Sonos at some point down the line. Yes, I know, they already own Beats, but Sonos is a much more premium product and they've been having financial issues as of late. My bet is that they see how things go for a year and then potentially scoop them up.
Going to the Apple Store is an "experience". They do it well.
The problem with a separate Sonos app is dependency. I can't get all the functionality that Spotify has through the sonos app and when Spotify adds new functionality, it depends on when sonos adds it. If sonos had airplay, there would be no dependency. I know we can do the airport express thing but that's a janky workaround that is another dependency.
I agree, Sonos is great (albeit expensive), I had just expected Beats to fill this void in their product lineup.I sort of expect Sonos to be an Apple acquisition and this is the first phase.
Think about it - Google/Amazon have similar products, but with their Siri competitors embedded in it. Instead of starting from scratch, acquire a player with similar brand/customer appeal - then evolve it to compete with the others. Plus, can you imagine what a 'speakerOS' on Sonos could be like? More than just streaming music services... They could evolve AirPlay to behave more like the patented Sonos protocol that keeps the wifi speakers in perfect sync.
Sonos has stated that their goal is to move the next generation of product towards speech recognition - but why start from scratch?
To me it seems like a great fit.
lol - if experience means crowds, lots of noise, inconvenience of driving and parking sure that's an "experience"
I get the sense the sale of Sonos products in Apple stores is a test case on whether they may look to buy Sonos at some point down the line. Yes, I know, they already own Beats, but Sonos is a much more premium product and they've been having financial issues as of late. My bet is that they see how things go for a year and then potentially scoop them up.
The problem with a separate Sonos app is dependency. I can't get all the functionality that Spotify has through the sonos app and when Spotify adds new functionality, it depends on when sonos adds it. If sonos had airplay, there would be no dependency. I know we can do the airport express thing but that's a janky workaround that is another dependency.
Be patient ....I can't get all the functionality that Spotify has through the sonos app and when Spotify adds new functionality
'Tim read my lips'
'BUY THEM'......tomorrow.
I recon $250,000,000 and its apples great addition far far better than
silly Beats purchase, great fit for Hey Apple (yes Hey Siri will go soon) and control of music with AM
Yes, that silly Beats that now owns over 60% of the entire worldwide market for premium headphones (those over $100), and is now the largest producer of wireless headphones in the world, as the worldwide headphone market shifts to the majority of its revenue now coming from wireless and growing rapidly. Silly Beats. Plus of course the tremendous benefits that Apple got for Apple Music, which has grown from zero to number 2 already. Silly Beats/Ingenious Apple.
KOSS + Tidal (rebanded to Apple Music) = $50,000,000
Beats = $3,000,000,000
Saving = $2,950,000,000
KOSS always in fashion with years of experience in the headphone industry
Beats esp. large head phones worn when "out and about" out of fashion <Circa 2020
Whose silly now.
Deany, your fascination with Koss is interesting, and there's nothing wrong with their headphones, but it's laughable to compare them as a company to Beats. Apple is the largest producer of headphones in the world, dwarfing Koss, they didn't need some niche headphone company. When Apple bought Beats, Beats revenue was estimated to be approaching $1.5 billion dollars. Koss' total revenue this past fiscal year was $26 million. Koss reported spending zero dollars on Research and Development in 2015. Yes, you read that right, zero. Moreover, Beats was the largest seller of premium headphones in the world when Apple bought them. You may have also noticed that Apple is leading the industry into wireless, and Beats is the largest producer of wireless headphones in the world. Koss, not so much.
Of course, you also struggle to accept that while Apple was prescient in buying the largest wireless headphone manufacturer in the world just as the world switches to wireless headphones in a big way (Coincidence? I think not), Apple was also buying one of the world's most culturally relevant tech brands. You may not pay attention to the arena of sports and stars, but Lebron James, Russell Wilson, and other celebs aren't wearing Koss out in public. There's a reason Apple reached over ten million subscribers to Apple Music in just a few months when it took Spotify many years to accomplish the same.
Sonos updated their software recently, and it's now incredibly annoying. Clicking on a song now adds the entire list to your playlist. I spend more time editing my playlist than actually listening to music these days.
As long as I am not able to listen BBC iPlayer catch up radio this is completely useless for me.
A shame. Read many good things about Sonos.