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I don't like AirPods which have crappy sound. If I wanted good or superb sound I use my Sennheiser true wireless or my Audeze iSines or Mobius or LCD-2CB actual headphones. Apple and audiophile stuff don't mix.
 
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SONY and Japanese companies in general tend to name their products in a complicate way. Never got it exactly why.

Yea, they don't really understand user friendliness like American companies do, and I don't think they've really made any real attempts to do so. Stuck in their ways I guess.
 
My Jabra 65t elite can connect to multiple devices.... When I'm behind my windows laptop it can play sounds from that, when I start a song from my phone it starts playing the sound from that...

Apple doesn't have exclusivity to standard Bluetooth protocols...

Ur dumb bro apple invented Bluetooth, wireless, headphones, and speakers.
 
I know nothing about business or marketing but I feel compelled to say: when will these companies learn that they simply won’t excel by releasing a product that is more expensive than leading competitors such as Apple. It doesn’t matter if the Sony buds are better and if they provide more functionality. They can’t try and enter that same niche of a market and expect to aggressively compete. General population will go for the mainstream popular **** every time, espeicially if it’s cheaper. It’s not like they shouldn’t try, but why more than $199, doesn’t make any sense.

Are you familiar with Sony's reputation in the headphone market? They will sell a ton of these. To be sure, Apple will sell more AirPods, but those in the market for what Sony brings (incredible sound quality and noise cancelling) won't be at all deterred by the price of these.
 
Are you familiar with Sony's reputation in the headphone market? They will sell a ton of these. To be sure, Apple will sell more AirPods, but those in the market for what Sony brings (incredible sound quality and noise cancelling) won't be at all deterred by the price of these.

If people posted how awesome AirPods are on the head-fi forum those folks would be laughed off stage like Woody Allen delivering stand-up comedy in today's world.
 
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I have the prior version. Their over-the-head headphones are excellent. These... they have a huge chasm to cross in quality. The prior version were riddled with connectivity problems, and firmware releases continually DOWNGRADED product performance. Very glad I didn't pay retail. Be VERY cautious with these.
 
If it doesn’t support connecting to multiple devices like AirPods, you should skip this device

These actually do!

I don’t know if users are really happy with them. I don’t think they sound very good for the price and still go back to Jaybirds. I like sound isolation though and won’t buy something just based on the “look”. I really don’t understand the fascination with them.

AirPods have set the industry standard for phone call voice quality n clarity! I’ve been using by headphones since Ericsson created the tech n I promise you this is no Apple fanboy bs. Mine fall out my ear a few times, I’m 5’10 n I’ve seen the bounce & flop on the wooden floor n they work perfectly no dents - build quality is great. The added convenience of pair once and use with ATV or Apple Watch is without question primo magic.

Yet I’ve always had to crank the music when I’m walking outside (I live in a quite ‘good and especially on public transit (TTC bus/subway or streetcar) - very annoying cause music playback is poor in quality. Another issue is I want to use Duolingo to learn Español yet my voice does NOT go through to the iPhone and the iOS app. I don’t know why!!?? iOS App Store says it will yet I’m almost eating my iPhone like a moron for it to hear my voice.

These Sony’s seem to be the staple for the 3rd generation of True wireless earphones! Reviews are showing great quality for music and audible playback ~ voice quality for calls via the mic (your to the other party) has yet to be specifically stated in reviews which is critical for me! AirPods will need to be redesigned for: longer battery life, signicant audio playback quality and new features like direct volume control!!

The biggest annoyance I have with AirPods is the (yes I’m going to say it) the perceived or intended supremacy white only colour ... ear hair from dark skin is greatly noticeable to others close by you & using tweezers every two days gets painful. I’m not going to use Neet but there must be a solution better than tweezers. So many threads about AirPods yet nobody mentions this??
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These are features that the next gen AirPods will offer

You mean the next AirPods “should” have ANC ;)

The way Bose handles multiple devices far exceeds Apples.

Not the E8’s which originally should great promise. Problem with those is: no individual BT connection to ear earphone and when you have a warranty claim you’ll go through no less than 10 email correspondence before sending them in and waiting 8wks for confirmation and another 2wks for replacements. Atrocious support by B&O for $400CAN earphones: never again for me!

But do these have aptX-LowLatency?
Surely airpods don’t?

I’ve never once in 12mths had any latency issues with my AirPods! I have voice issues with iOS Duolingo app on my iPhone 7 though Grrrrrrr!!
 
I have the prior version. Their over-the-head headphones are excellent. These... they have a huge chasm to cross in quality. The prior version were riddled with connectivity problems, and firmware releases continually DOWNGRADED product performance. Very glad I didn't pay retail. Be VERY cautious with these.

Great advice! I’ve seen a few reviews over on BestBuy of a similar issue - in particular a warning NOt to use the Sony app as it’ll immediately install FW updates (3.xx and in particular 4.11 which immediately degrades quality affecting the left earphone or making it useless)!
 
I’ve never once in 12mths had any latency issues with my AirPods! I have voice issues with iOS Duolingo app on my iPhone 7 though Grrrrrrr!!
I'm looking for bt in-ear buds, that could be also partly used with video cam monitoring audio. 100ms delay is the most I can tolerate.Anybody ever tested the delay of Apple's airbuds connected to aptX-LL-compatible transmitter?
https://www.rtings.com/headphones/tools/table/3646
I also want there to be controllable pass-through of noise-cancelling to be safe to bicycle in the traffic.
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I’ve never once in 12mths had any latency issues with my AirPods! I have voice issues with iOS Duolingo app on my iPhone 7 though Grrrrrrr!!
I'm looking for bt in-ear buds, that could be also partly used with video cam monitoring audio. 100ms delay is the most I can tolerate.Anybody ever tested the delay of Apple's airbuds connected to aptX-LL-compatible transmitter?
https://www.rtings.com/headphones/tools/table/3648
I also want there to be controllable pass-through of noise-cancelling to be safe to bicycle in the traffic.
 
These actually do!



AirPods have set the industry standard for phone call voice quality n clarity! I’ve been using by headphones since Ericsson created the tech n I promise you this is no Apple fanboy bs. Mine fall out my ear a few times, I’m 5’10 n I’ve seen the bounce & flop on the wooden floor n they work perfectly no dents - build quality is great. The added convenience of pair once and use with ATV or Apple Watch is without question primo magic.

Yet I’ve always had to crank the music when I’m walking outside (I live in a quite ‘good and especially on public transit (TTC bus/subway or streetcar) - very annoying cause music playback is poor in quality. Another issue is I want to use Duolingo to learn Español yet my voice does NOT go through to the iPhone and the iOS app. I don’t know why!!?? iOS App Store says it will yet I’m almost eating my iPhone like a moron for it to hear my voice.

These Sony’s seem to be the staple for the 3rd generation of True wireless earphones! Reviews are showing great quality for music and audible playback ~ voice quality for calls via the mic (your to the other party) has yet to be specifically stated in reviews which is critical for me! AirPods will need to be redesigned for: longer battery life, signicant audio playback quality and new features like direct volume control!!

The biggest annoyance I have with AirPods is the (yes I’m going to say it) the perceived or intended supremacy white only colour ... ear hair from dark skin is greatly noticeable to others close by you & using tweezers every two days gets painful. I’m not going to use Neet but there must be a solution better than tweezers. So many threads about AirPods yet nobody mentions this??
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You mean the next AirPods “should” have ANC ;)



Not the E8’s which originally should great promise. Problem with those is: no individual BT connection to ear earphone and when you have a warranty claim you’ll go through no less than 10 email correspondence before sending them in and waiting 8wks for confirmation and another 2wks for replacements. Atrocious support by B&O for $400CAN earphones: never again for me!



I’ve never once in 12mths had any latency issues with my AirPods! I have voice issues with iOS Duolingo app on my iPhone 7 though Grrrrrrr!!
While I get why some people like them for the convenience features I just need my earbuds to sound as good as possible. I couldn't buy something that audio quality was just ok and the looks I just cant get past.
 
While I get why some people like them for the convenience features I just need my earbuds to sound as good as possible. I couldn't buy something that audio quality was just ok and the looks I just cant get past.

I too am getting annoyed and sick of poor audio quality of my current earbuds = AirPods.

Going to buy these Sony’s Wednesday to try out first hand. I’m opening they’ll support, or soon with an update support Siri.
 
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Bombaclaut!!!

Lord of have mercy!!

I just purchased these ... what a mission racing to Bay & Bloor Radio @ Bay/Bloor in Toronto ... 2ND last pair.

If you haven’t been there suing attention to reviews or listening to those that have purchased these ... let me echo the others and on top of that Kidd Rock is in Toronto and also purchased these today at the same store earlier than I have. Big shout out to Alan at Bay/Bloor Radio and store manager for seriously being proper gents each professional and even extended the utmost courtesy of letting me jump in to purchase these after racing in Uber and arriving 9mins as the stir closes (Beers to come tomorrow gents)!!

I have a wide range of music from Hip Hop to House (Progressive, Classic, to Afro and EDM), and Rock N Roll to Dance/Pop.

Packaging is a nice presentation, a precursor the the audio experience you’re about to enjoy.

First: the warmth of fidelity is seriously just beauty in essence of itself! Yes the frequency is still 20-20’000Khz.

I’ve NOT downloaded nor installed the Sony Headphones Connect for fear of getting update 4.1 that I’ve read in 2 reviews damaging the left side earbud. This is odd because these are 1/3 on the market with true wireless were neither is master/salve to the other - so this should not happen.

Right out of the box ... volume was too loud (due to having Gen1 AirPods needing full blast on iPhone).

Signature song: TI - Go Get It ; very deep and low frequency hip hop which I’d say the production of base and kids is a bit sharp and dirty (probably intended). But handled the bass without any static or pops or anything.

Songs:
Marvin Gaye - Sexual Healing
When I first heard this track was with my pops’ Marantz component system with 4x10” woofers, 6x5” mids, and 8x2”/2.5” tweeters and I can tell you I’ve never had headphones come close to the warmth, crisp of the high hats and the bass guitar without affecting this musical gods voice. The rise and falls of the background instruments that periodically get played ... that melodic guitar is easy to hear without closing my eyes.

Black Coffee ft Tortured Soul - I know what’s on your mind.
(The original my Tortured Soul many here may know is completely remixed by this S.African DJ and producer (who has the skills to compose and conduct an orchestra live for his own concert 5yrs ago) is a delight.
The pronounced initial attack of each bass drum has a serious kick BUT without punching in your ear drum. It’ll flex but doe NOT affect the softness and lofty lust of the groups vocals. The high hats have their rain as well even beyond the mids. You do NOT miss anything.

How Ya Like Me Now Raffertie remix definitely felt like an intimate live performance ... even that beauty of static off the needle of a record, I’m most impressed. (Same remix featured in S4 of Suits).

Van Halen - Jump
Yup the synthesizers STILL have that 80’s energetic promise of good times. I thought the bass was lacking in this track in my early teens but now I know I was right

Whitesnake - Crying In The Rain (album whitesnake)
- I honestly remembered why I loved this song and yet again made me cry AGAIN; damn you Sony! All I can say on this too painful a memory.

Boasty ft Idris
Great studio like bass and vocals are clear even if ya have issues following the lyrics lol.

New York Handpan 01 & 02 by Sam Maher (found odd YouTube)
- just started finding about this instrument and music and the wide range of what sounds like a melodic steel drum to me. I can crisply hear this hand smacking even with the music non overpowering either. I’m very impressed and can fall into a trance.

Justin Timberlake - Mirrors.
4:16/20 in and at the break during 5:51 gave me a true comparison to what the Jabra Sport Elites, AirPods v1, B&O E8’s v1 and a few others I don’t care to mention have failed to bring out Justins background vocals without being blurred.

To wrap up:
These are smaller that they look on videos or picks. The greyish earplugs are a jelly like feel - I have VERY small ears (6cm from ear lobe to top of my ear) and small ear canals and I have not even stuck these in much with a twist and shakes my head like crazy - they cannot fall out! The case has a very soft velvet like feel without collecting dust or pocket lint. Magnet is as strong if not stronger than Apples AirPods case.

YES: Touch n Hold the Right earbud does invoke Siri without tampering in the Sony app (I haven’t installed it on my iPhone 8).

$229CAN+ tax ($339.xx all in)
BestBuy has been sold out online and all Toronto stores and tomorrow BayBloor will be sold out and they don’t know when they’ll get theirs.

PS: all my tracks are at 320Mbps at 44.1Khz AAC.

I most definitely recommend these if you prefer True Wireless Earbuds with BT 5.0 and proper seal and lightweight ... I don’t notice ANY difference in weight compared to the AirPods!!

Sony like always with too end headphones as killed it! I’ve said this in another post before n will again:

THESE are the staple for the next generation True Wireless in-ear Headphones! I expect wireless charging and IP-X rating on the next gen.

I’m very happy I did NOT purchase: Galaxy Buds, Beats PowerBeats Pro, AirPods v2 or B&O E8 v2!

PS: Dr FeelGood for the bonus track test.
 

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