To each their own. Ever heard of a game called Astal for the Sega Saturn? Well, had I listened to all the reviewers that HATED that game, I would have missed out on a great memory I still look back on fondly.
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Have you published your poll yet on “the people who care the most about games won’t ever buy a Mac?” How many replies did you get, and what was your methodology?
I don’t think my opinion is that far from reality. Unless you have information I’m unaware of?
In fact, let’s discuss the methodology. How would this question be phrased?
“Would you buy a Mac over a PC if your favorite games were available for it?” Seems to be reasonable, poised to the most popular PC gaming subreddits (barring Mac Gaming, they already have Macs) and go from there?
Would I include subreddits tangentially related as well or exclude them?
And what should the answers be phrased as just “yes, I would do it” “I would consider it” and “hard no, screw Apple”
I’m certain over 70% of responses would be a hard “no”
Not the way that the burden of proof works, my friend.
I make a claim, and I provide evidence to fortify it. That’s how you know that I’m not blowing it out my ass.
The same applies to you.
I would invite you to be more careful and specific with your word choices, and that will help me understand how to take your posts.
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If you’re being serious, then your answers will depend on how broadly a group of people you sample. It’s less important to just ask the most people, and more important to pick people who are likely to give you more varied answers.
Further, make sure that you don’t just give them questions that they can only give two answers to - yes or no. You’ll learn more if you give them a scale to rate their agreement or disagreement with your questions.
Make sense?
I’m gonna attempt to make this clear as I possibly can:
I’m not sure there’s answers beyond “yes or no” it’s not like someone could buy half a Mac. And that’s the heart of the question, not “would you be interested” it’s “would you buy one instead of a PC.”
And I’m inclined to pick the relevant crowd: people who play games on PC. Asking say, console gamers wouldn’t matter because that’s not a market the Mac competes in. And that’s the group I posted about.
I’m aware of the way burden of proof works. But lacking any sort of scientific or market survey I only have anecdotal sentiment to go off of, and that sentiment is totally anti-Mac.
You can call it blowing smoke, but until actual studies are done (lol) it’s the best I’ve got.
Now, can you honestly say that you’ve seen any positivity towards Apple from the gamersphere? I know I haven’t and I’m not digging for hate comments either.
Well, it certainly seems like you’re only expecting to find answers that won’t surprise you, so, if anything, you’re suffering from a failure to think creatively.
If you already think you know the answers to your questions, then ask different questions. If you already think that you’ve got it all figured out, then I can’t help you.
Noone here can force you to be curious, especially about alternatives to your current way of thinking.
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I’m sorry that you took issue with my commentary on the attitude that is held towards the Mac by the PC crowd. If it makes you feel better I could go to a few Jayz2cents, Gamers Nexus, and Linus Tech Tips YouTube videos and screenshot the comments there.
Since that wouldn’t pass peer review, I doubt you’d accept it though.
We can all make comments on YouTube, but they tend to be very reactive based on the video itself (it’s cool or it sucks).
I do like all the channels that you’ve named. How familiar are you with Marques Brownlee, Max Tech, and Snazzy Labs? I would say that they’re more open to and fair with how they discuss Apple hardware and software than Jayz2cents.
When I used to write Game Reviews:
Old Mac Gamer: Marathon... A Game made for Macs only, by a Mac Gaming Company.
The world is normal, life is good, until reality comes to a screeching halt. Feebly, I raise my arm and point. Gibberish drools from my mouth as I see a vision. The music vibrates my soul and the army choir sings- “da...da da-da-da......MARATHON”! A fleeting alien figure comes hurtling up the long corridor zapping me with electric shocks. And with just a pistol, I rise to the occasion- blam! blam! to take care of this menace. Despite my wife rolling her eyes, life just got better.
Where am I? The Year: 1994. My Mac Performa (68030 processor) is in the shop to be upgraded to a brand new PowerMac 7100. The dark corridores of the Starship Marathon reveal themselves on the Marathon demo. Besieged with Pfhor, S’pht (no, I don’t have a speech impediment), a rogue-personality-construct named Durandal, and assorted alien critters, it could be argued that Marathon is the single most influential game series ever to grace the Mac’s desktop. With an ancestry dating back to Castle Wolfenstein, Doom, and Pathways Into Darkness, Marathon was the first good looking First Person Shooter (FPS). It had textures, atmosphere, a story, maximum action, lots of alien scum to shoot, it ran without any special graphics hardware, and Mac users had it! Although it did require a PowerPC processor. While the PC minions were drooling over Doom (the poor deluded fools), Mac users were truely blessed with a superior gaming experience.
The first series started with little fanfare, as you arrive on the Starship Marathon. Something is terribly wrong here. And immediately you are assulted. The series is a story of heroism (yours), manipulation (Durandal’s), and target practise, lots of it as you search and explore exotic environments, search and destroy hostile aliens. The series wisked you from the vacuum of space, to planetside vistas, cool blue waters and sometimes, the bubbly green slime of the sewers. Marathon never dissapointed.
And greater than the solo story was the J-O-Y, yes the joy of multiplayer gaming. It’s multiplayer capabilities brought gamers together for countless LAN parties. I have probably forgotten more memorable moments than I can remember, there are so many of them. I remember my amazement that 4-8 players and their computers could be syncronized in a common arena for such good-willed carnage. Grenade hopping. The Bobs running around getting in your way, while shouting “they’re everywhere!”. The pesky floating bots that collapsed in a plume of smoke. The over grown, sludge-throwing sewer rats. The easy long shots when we were all new to this game. The splat of guts on the wall after a dead-on rocket impact. The juggernauts. The insane adreniline rush of double sawed-off shotguns in a small arena.
My list of favorite arenas is a huge one, but here are a few - Circular Death, Mutiny is Good, For a Few Shotguns More, Hata, Egan-rac, Mars Needs Women, B’rak Station, and most of the Randall Shaw (FrigidMan) maps (not already mentioned).
This outstanding game fulfilled my gaming needs for a good 7 years. Quite a run! At the last LAN party I attended (July 2002), we broke out Marathon and gave it one last shot. And sadly, the MacOS (classic v9.2) has seemed to have left Marathon behind. No one could get decent mouse performance from it. Although the Sun is setting is Marathon, its influence and spirit lives on in games such as Unreal Tournament (with it’s Marathon Mods), Quake 3 Arena, and most significantly in the Microsoft/Bungie X-Box consol game, “Halo”, where you can still play “skull” games. I think I’m getting teary. So I’ll wrap this up by saying, “Marathon- thanks for the memories! You got me addicted to computer gaming and my wife (whom I’m still happily married to) will never forgive you.”
Old Mac Gamer: Marathon... A Game made for Macs only, by a Mac Gaming Company.
Where am I? The Year: 1994. My Mac Performa (68030 processor) is in the shop to be upgraded to a brand new PowerMac 7100. The dark corridores of the Starship Marathon reveal themselves on the Marathon demo. Besieged with Pfhor, S’pht (no, I don’t have a speech impediment), a rogue-personality-construct named Durandal, and assorted alien critters, it could be argued that Marathon is the single most influential game series ever to grace the Mac’s desktop. With an ancestry dating back to Castle Wolfenstein, Doom, and Pathways Into Darkness, Marathon was the first good looking First Person Shooter (FPS). It had textures, atmosphere, a story, maximum action, lots of alien scum to shoot, it ran without any special graphics hardware, and Mac users had it! Although it did require a PowerPC processor. While the PC minions were drooling over Doom (the poor deluded fools), Mac users were truely blessed with a superior gaming experience.
The first series started with little fanfare, as you arrive on the Starship Marathon. Something is terribly wrong here. And immediately you are assulted. The series is a story of heroism (yours), manipulation (Durandal’s), and target practise, lots of it as you search and explore exotic environments, search and destroy hostile aliens. The series wisked you from the vacuum of space, to planetside vistas, cool blue waters and sometimes, the bubbly green slime of the sewers. Marathon never dissapointed.
And greater than the solo story was the J-O-Y, yes the joy of multiplayer gaming. It’s multiplayer capabilities brought gamers together for countless LAN parties. I have probably forgotten more memorable moments than I can remember, there are so many of them. I remember my amazement that 4-8 players and their computers could be syncronized in a common arena for such good-willed carnage. Grenade hopping. The Bobs running around getting in your way, while shouting “they’re everywhere!”. The pesky floating bots that collapsed in a plume of smoke. The over grown, sludge-throwing sewer rats. The easy long shots when we were all new to this game. The splat of guts on the wall after a dead-on rocket impact. The juggernauts. The insane adreniline rush of double sawed-off shotguns in a small arena.
My list of favorite arenas is a huge one, but here are a few - Circular Death, Mutiny is Good, For a Few Shotguns More, Hata, Egan-rac, Mars Needs Women, B’rak Station, and most of the Randall Shaw (FrigidMan) maps (not already mentioned).
This outstanding game fulfilled my gaming needs for a good 7 years. Quite a run! At the last LAN party I attended (July 2002), we broke out Marathon and gave it one last shot. And sadly, the MacOS (classic v9.2) has seemed to have left Marathon behind. No one could get decent mouse performance from it. Although the Sun is setting is Marathon, its influence and spirit lives on in games such as Unreal Tournament (with it’s Marathon Mods), Quake 3 Arena, and most significantly in the Microsoft/Bungie X-Box consol game, “Halo”, where you can still play “skull” games. I think I’m getting teary. So I’ll wrap this up by saying, “Marathon- thanks for the memories! You got me addicted to computer gaming and my wife (whom I’m still happily married to) will never forgive you.”
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