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With Spotify, you can download any song/ album/ playlist in high quality on any of your devices and play them without a data connection. There's lots of false assumptions in this thread about what these streaming services provide.
Of course, and I use Spotify to download songs and I am premium subscriber. I was just commenting of streaming overall, not what some services provide and what some don't.
 
Apple Watch, Apple Pay, Apple Music. Seems like the iBrand is dead.

Most likely because of the nightmare time they have getting the trademarks for new devices and services now that everyone and his dog has trademarked an iSomething.

(says someone with the username iZac)
 
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I don't think I know one person who buys music downloads. Everybody is streaming.
Well, I actually buy for the downloads. Especially the iTunes Music Store is way to unpredictable here in Switzerland. Content comes and goes without a warning. At least most of the content remains in the purchased section of the store. But you simply cannot rely on it. I'm in since about 2008 and to keep the content available for streaming (on Apple TV), I had to repurchase a lot of stuff regularly. Yes, I know about iTunes Match, but this didn't work for me.
Indeed, the iTMS needs a complete overhaul. It's awfull to use (why can't it remember settings you made?) and doesn't help you in any way to find new content.
 
And how many people do you know who is prepared to spend $120 a year on music for the rest of their life?

Me neither.

Umm, there's this thing called Spotify. It actually exists. And does really well.

YOU may not want to spend $120/year on music, but there are PLENTY of people who want to. And they do, hence Spotify being what it is.
 
I pretty much only listen to music while I'm bored on a plane or on my car radio. If I only did streaming, not only would I have to pay for a subscription I would have to pay for GoGo inflight wifi, too. No thanks. When I listen to music I listen to specific songs I like, not random songs even if they are from an artist I generally like. I learn about new music when I have the radio on in the car or from a movie (like I did with some songs from the Fifty Shades of Grey movie.) The movie was crap but it had some really nice music in it :p

Streaming is important for the youngsters but there are plenty of people who still want to own specific songs on their iPhone that don't require data access to hear.

Okay, a few things...

1. It sounds like streaming isn't for you, which is perfectly okay.
2. If you have a streaming subscription, you can choose to have albums available offline.
3. Streaming doesn't equal random songs--with Spotify you can search and listen to anything you want.
4. Again, paying for a subscription generally allows you to have songs/albums downloaded to your device.

After sifting through this thread, I feel like a lot of you folks have no clue what a paid streaming service like Spotify offers. I'm seeing a lot of comments that simply aren't rooted in reality.
 
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It starting to make sense. The circles are Mac apps (iTunes) and the squares are iPhone apps (music) - now do the colours match the different features? Photos/music/podcasts/video?
 
I get the feeling that most people in this thread envision "streamed music" as iTunes Radio. Instead, imagine a service where you can:
  • Select from a huge library (8.4 mil or something?) of high quality music
  • Organise your favourite songs into playlists
  • Download said playlists / songs to your devices so you can listen to them offline
  • Use a radio feature to discover new music (and skip as often as you want)
Basically, imagine an all-you-can eat version of iTunes where you pay $10/mo and get unlimited access to every song in the store.

That's Spotify (aka a music streaming service).
 
Why? What aspects of Apple's rumoured service make you want to leave Spotify?
The biggest benefit of using Apple's streaming service would be that of being able to use a SINGLE app for both streaming music and listening to music that I already own.

That being said, Apple's library (in terms of songs and playlist curation) and pricing has to match Spotify in order to convince me to switch.
 
The biggest benefit of using Apple's streaming service would be that of being able to use a SINGLE app for both streaming music and listening to music that I already own.

That being said, Apple's library (in terms of songs and playlist curation) and pricing has to match Spotify in order to convince me to switch.

Will it be a single app?

I use Google Music and it uploaded my iTunes library so I can play all my music and steam music from one app.
 
Your comment reminded me of leasing vs owning a car. Worst thing I've done was lease a Honda Civic back in 1996. If I bought to own (like my current car and truck) I would still have it today because I take care of my vehicles.
That's basically want you're doing; leasing music.

You miss my point totally. Did you actually read my post? If so, you have comprehension issues.

Has Apple removed DRM yet from iTunes or are you still only buying a license? The main reason I stream music is so that I have access to pretty much any music at any time. I can also download a bunch of songs using Premium Spotify to my devices so that I don't have to 'stream.'

iTunes is DRM free with iTunes Plus, I believe.

Offline mode is expected, but not confirmed.

Looking forward to seeing what they come up with
Not sure how much more integrated it can be ...the current version is great.
And more music ? I thought Spotify is pretty well stocked with music and there's not much I couldn't find.

There's a few. There AC/DC, Beatles and Taylor Swift, which is just what I found.

But who is saying that $10 is the magical price point? I find $10 way to much for leasing music so I would never choose any of them at that price point. 3 months ago Google had a special deal for $3 for 3 months and while I liked it I'm not dropping $10 on it. $5 yes. $10 no.
So if Apple does a special for a few months sure i will try it but I'm putting a note in my calendar to cancel 2 days before renewal. Maybe Apple will undercut everyone by a few bucks. Let's see. And I would like to see the cross platform compatibility as I use both Android and Apple. I'm not locked into one ecosystem.

I never said it was a magical price point for Apple, just using its competitors as an example. You're wildly dramatising it all...

Apparently they're doing an Android app, so that covers your last statement.

ah cool. as I'm in the UK, I've still not managed to try iTunes Radio

Same here. The development of this is what caused us not to get iTunes Radio until now.
 
Yeah, I'd wait to see if she can back her claims up before I go dumping the current ball and chain.

Apple hardware has always been at least kinda neat, but you can't say the same thing about their services.

What are the claims that are seeing apple music so far apart from spotify that makes you want to change?
 
The problem with it becoming the tipping point for stream vs d/l is the data use on a mobile device. If you stream music regularly you will really hit data caps or need a larger cap, unless you have wifi access. In addition, it means no music when you can't stream, such as when flying unless you want to pay for wifi where it is available.

I'd like to see a two option model: buy the song outright or be able to stream and download with the d/ls only playable while you have an active subscription. They could auto-expire after a certain number roof days and whenever you connect to the server automatically extend the date to your next renewal date.

This is exactly what Beats Music and Spotify allow you to do. I've got tons of songs in my "library" on Beats Music, and I can check a box to download the album, playlist, or song to my device.

I'm assuming Apple Music will be a lot like Beats Music with Apple branding and hopefully more of a look like the iTunes Store. That's the one thing I find most frustrating about Beats Music. They have a bunch of suggested albums, but there's not a top 10 singles, top 10 albums, etc. list like the iTunes Store has.

Beats also doesn't have integration with an iTunes library so you can make a playlist and add songs to it that you personally own. I'm pretty sure Spotify has that feature, which right now would be helpful for me because I'm trying to make a list of songs from "Supernatural." There's plenty of AC/DC, which I own. But I can't put it in a playlist with stuffy like "Carry on Wayward Son" that I don't and have added to my Beats library.

I'm assuming this will be in Apple Music. Otherwise, I don't get the point. This needs to be some revamped Music app that blurs the line between iTunes/Music and Beats Music a lot iTunes Radio did. You can listen to a station and get a link to buy a track if you don't own it or play it if you do. You get that done and you'll probably win a lot of Spotify users with large iTunes libraries.

I'm also curious as to whether I get anything special for subscribing to Beats for the past few months. Like "you get a fourth month on your free trial for being an early supporter." If not, that's fine. I just hope I can still get the free three months.
 
I don't think I know one person who buys music downloads. Everybody is streaming.

Anybody who owns the latest Taylor Swift album. Or who wants to buy Beatles, AC/DC or other artists who aren't on streaming platforms. None of this is going to be "stream any song from the iTunes Store for $9.99 per month." Many people will hold out completely, others will give a lead of X months kind of like movies coming out in theaters, then VOD, then disc, then eventually to premium cable, cable, broadcast, etc.

I definitely am liking streaming more now than when Spotify first hit the U.S. But if you want certain things, you'll still buy albums. Jay-Z has a decent idea but no shot at it actually working. I am still missing the awesomeness of DTS-audio discs that were 5.1 channels and insanely clear on a home theater system. I'm still surprised Apple hasn't offered some purchase option like that for an extra $5 per album in a digital format. There are a few albums I would definitely buy if they were that quality.
 
It'll take something special to get me to migrate from Spotify. I can't see it happening at all.
 
I know this may sound stupid to a lot of ppl but i am switching to Apple Music since Spotify still dosnt have this ABC-Jump in the Playlist/Artist/Album-View. Its just annying have to scrool to a certain letter instead of fast jumping to it.

(http://i.stack.imgur.com/n78RM.png / On the right Site this list from the Spotlite to #)


Apple Watch, Apple Pay, Apple Music. Seems like the iBrand is dead.

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No thats not true. iDevices are independent operation devices. "Apple"Devices depend like the Watch on the iPhone

And no the I dont stand for independent.
 
Why? What aspects of Apple's rumoured service make you want to leave Spotify?

I suspect for some individuals it will be the Apple part, it has to be cause if people are saying they are going to leave spottily without having any details, it's brand loyalty.
 
Doesn't the D in WWDC stand for Developer or am I missing something this year? :(

They will be releasing a new OS X and iOS version, that is quite major for a developer conference. Though given we all know that, we are discussing the other things apple will release. Most people on here are not developers, hence we are more interested in new services or hardware. The wwdc is a developers wet dream, the rest of us care about 30min or so of the keynote.... New stuff :p
 
Apple Watch, Apple Pay, Apple Music. Seems like the iBrand is dead.

Most likely because of the nightmare time they have getting the trademarks for new devices and services now that everyone and his dog has trademarked an iSomething.

(says someone with the username iZac)

It's not that cunning, they drop the i and replace it with Apple :) . AppleZac can be reborn !!!
 
No thats not true. iDevices are independent operation devices. "Apple"Devices depend like the Watch on the iPhone

And no the I dont stand for independent.

I believe that is also not true .

If you are going to create a premium device, with one version costing $10k + , which sounds more premium "Apple watch" or "iWatch"

In my opinion, apple is trying to rebrand itself away from IT naming conventions, iSomething is old computer company apple.

Also , I'd argue that an iPod is depended on a Mac with iTunes.
 
Probably going to be U2 performing and giving out free music no one asked for.


The only way anyone is going to care for the new music service if it is part of iTunes Match service.
 
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