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Sony Music CEO Confirms 'Apple Music' Unveiling at WWDC

HenryDJP said:
Well the saying continues to be true. You can't please em all. Many people want iTunes to be broken down to separate entities because they feel it's too bloated being a one-stop-shop.

On another end, I just find it hilarious when people say, "This would be a bad move by Apple". This company wouldn't have gotten to be the most valuable company worldwide and have over $200 billion of liquid funds in the bank if they made "bad moves". I think they know their business 200 billion times better than you do.
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Congratulations , you now have your trump card to end all discussion on MR! Lol

"This company wouldn't have gotten to be the most valuable company worldwide and have over $200 billion of liquid funds in the bank if they made "bad moves". I think they know their business 200 billion times better than you do."

While it's a fact, not relevant to the thread, why do you need to turn it personal against the poster?

Though Completely silly argument, given apple had made many bad moves on the way , though they have been offset by the excellent moves, and devices that make the bulk of their income .....it's the iPhone btw!

Instead of posting profits not related to the thread, I'd suggest looking into the features of iTunes that apple has introduced, there you will see a number of bad moves. And it's on topic of this discussion.

So happy to debate iTunes as a product and features we have seen introduced , the good moves and the mad moves?
 
MH01 said:
I believe that is also not true .

If you are going to create a premium device, with one version costing $10k + , which sounds more premium "Apple watch" or "iWatch"

In my opinion, apple is trying to rebrand itself away from IT naming conventions, iSomething is old computer company apple.

Also , I'd argue that an iPod is depended on a Mac with iTunes.
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i know i read somewhere a offical statement that all "Apple" Products are just Accessories by Apple.
 
I always like native solutions, I still have couple of months left in my Spotify subscription but definitely will give apple service a try if possible outside the US :) I do use a US account and iTunes radio works just fine without a vpn.
 
Abazigal said:
Maybe Apple wouldn't have dared. But Steve Jobs just might have been crazy enough to do it, and very often, "might" is more than enough. And sometimes, just the off-chance that a very passionate ex-CEO of Apple might go ballistic enough to burn his bridges would be enough to make everyone toe the line. After all, you don't want to be "that guy" who just scuttled a billion-dollar dollar simply because you couldn't keep your mouth shut for one more day.
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This is more reasonable - that the fear of the consequences might have stopped the comment, rather than the consequences actually being realized.
 
Just more evidence of people joining the Apple team seemingly having no idea how Apple do things. What made this guy think it was acceptable to publish that image, which so clearly reveals an unreleased service which Apple definitely planned on announcing themselves today. What we he thinking?! I remember reading the Instagram comments and he was like, "What leak? It's just my job. It's all good!" Yes, it's your job. But you job now directly relates to an unannounced service. Think with your head!1
 
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HenryDJP said:
Unless Wifi works in my car while driving. LOL. I'm 100% sure it's not over Wifi. I only stream music in the car while I'm driving. Like I said I play only a few songs a day so that might be why I'm not using much. I've had the same low data usage experience using iTunes Radio.
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HenryDJP said:
This probably won't help a ton in terms of proving how often I play Spotify in my car but here's my data usage as of the 25th which is my billing cycle with Verizon. My average is about 4 or 5 songs daily in my car on the iPhone. I do use the 3G more so than the LTE (if that matters) because coverage is better in 3G. So either the music streaming takes very little bandwidth or Verizon is being generous and not counting my data usage....which I highly doubt. :D
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It does seem very low, 0.06GB is only 30 minutes of music if it's encoded at 256kbps or an hour at 128kbps.
 
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Xenc said:
I'm ready to switch my Spotify subscription over to Apple. Hopefully it will be worthwhile!
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I haven't got a Spotify, so this should be even easier...

I just hope its got more content than Spofity.. I'm like a kid in a candy store.
 
JarScott said:
Just more evidence of people joining the Apple team seemingly having no idea how Apple do things. What made this guy think it was acceptable to publish that image, which so clearly reveals an unreleased service which Apple definitely planned on announcing themselves today. What we he thinking?! I remember reading the Instagram comments and he was like, "What leak? It's just my job. It's all good!" Yes, it's your job. But you job now directly relates to an unannounced service. Think with your head!1
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Why do you care?

Does it matter the keynote is known before hand? Nope not one tiny little bit .
 
Mr Fusion said:
2015 Keynote:

- 30 minutes of "Look at our sales, WOW! Everyone give each other a hug, did we mention we love our customers?"
- iOS 9: Stability improvements!
- OS X: Stability improvements!
- Apple Music: "OMG look it's U-2!!!"
- Fade to black...

There. I just saved you two hours of time and months of Mandarin or sign language classes. You can thank me later.
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Forgot o wait here are 19 things we STOLE from android, that they had 5 years ago... you can now do ... .. .. .. .. .. :D
 
JarScott said:
Just more evidence of people joining the Apple team seemingly having no idea how Apple do things. What made this guy think it was acceptable to publish that image, which so clearly reveals an unreleased service which Apple definitely planned on announcing themselves today. What we he thinking?! I remember reading the Instagram comments and he was like, "What leak? It's just my job. It's all good!" Yes, it's your job. But you job now directly relates to an unannounced service. Think with your head!1
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This guy should be so fired...and not because he revealed an unnaunced service, but because he is stupid enough to do so. If you work for Apple you should know that once you step into your office, everthing you hear or see is private and strictly confidential. If you cant follow such a simple rule, you dont seems to qualify working for Apple. I dont even want to comment on how sad is to look for attention on social media by sharing such a photograph when no one asked you to do so...
 
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macintoshmac said:
I do, and now you know. For me, it is simple convenience.. I do not have to use up my data every time I want to listen to songs. It is that simple for me. I pay once, download the song, and use it on any device I want, and don't care if I have internet or not.

I have an unlimited internet supply at home, and office, and can maybe use streaming in such instances, but what about the times when there is service disruption? Simply means music disruption, no? Am I missing something here about the concept of 'streaming music'?
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You are missing the ease of use. Turn on a channel you like, set it and forget it. With the old way you had to buy songs (which took a bit of time to find them on iTunes and then pay for them), make playlists!!! (that took literally minutes of your time), and repeat this process every few months to keep things fresh.

With these streaming services, you don't have to think or even do much more of an act then press play. Really for my house, a Spotify channel accessed through an old iTouch plugged into a Speaker Doc is a pretty regular background music provider set up by GF. She won't even go to the trouble to use the Macs to stream through the Apple TV which is hooked up to the Media Center speakers. It is just background music to her.
 
rols said:
Perhaps lots of us live in caves. Or think 10 bucks a month is (takes off socks to aid multiplication) hmm quite a lot per year. Subscription services are insidious, Adobe loves them, M$ is starting to love them, Apple appears now to love them too. When I tried to 'upgrade' to the latest Photos app it very quickly explained how much it wanted me to pay every month to keep 36 pictures of my cat, I declined, I still have the cat, I can take another picture of her tomorrow.

I have the music I bought. Podcasts still exist (no really they still do and they are FREE). I'm never going to sign up for a daily/weekly/monthly/annual fee for listening to music not at 10 a month, 5 a month or 2 a month.

The reason streaming subscriptions have become popular with companies is because they make more money out of them, which means they are worse for you Mr Joe Consumer. If that's what it costs to consume music, I will stop consuming it.
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I believe that none of the major streaming services turn a profit. And they certainly don't make more money for artists than record sales. There has always been ad supported free radio, but I don't believe anyone is going to tell that is a pretty profitable business.

I think streaming businesses are just another "internet" thing that is enjoying the Bubble 2.0. And to the extent that it will be the future, it is going to be because the customers like them. But for now we can't tell if that is the case because most of the services are just giving away their product with minimal to no ads.
 
TallManNY said:
You are missing the ease of use. Turn on a channel you like, set it and forget it. With the old way you had to buy songs (which took a bit of time to find them on iTunes and then pay for them), make playlists!!! (that took literally minutes of your time), and repeat this process every few months to keep things fresh.

With these streaming services, you don't have to think or even do much more of an act then press play. Really for my house, a Spotify channel accessed through an old iTouch plugged into a Speaker Doc is a pretty regular background music provider set up by GF. She won't even go to the trouble to use the Macs to stream through the Apple TV which is hooked up to the Media Center speakers. It is just background music to her.
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Sounds like radio to me, which is free.
 
Benjamin Frost said:
Sounds like radio to me, which is free.
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Yep, that is right. But radio has much more ads per hour than Spotify Free. And there are less channels with less stations that are targeted as well to my GF's musical tastes. So radio does not get turned on, instead it is Spotify.
 
TallManNY said:
Yep, that is right. But radio has much more ads per hour than Spotify Free. And there are less channels with less stations that are targeted as well to my GF's musical tastes. So radio does not get turned on, instead it is Spotify.
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It's not hard to find ad-free radio these days. The Internet has endless specialised radio channels for free. And in the UK, all the main radio channels have no ads. Never have.

No doubt, some will like the appeal of streaming. But the average person buys one or two albums a year. Trying to persuade that person to raise his spending on music from $7.50 a year to $120 a year is a tall order, and is why it is unlikely that paid streaming will ever garner more than a niche audience, unless the price comes down to $1 or $2 per month.
 
Let's see what they do, before we bash it. I downloaded Spotify to give it a shot. I chose the 70's group "Yes". After listening to 8 songs, I was disappointed that I heard 4 different live versions of the same song.". Lame.
 
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k995 said:
Why do you care?

Does it matter the keynote is known before hand? Nope not one tiny little bit .
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Yes, it does matter. Its part of the suprise...
 
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shandyman said:
Well the steaming services have the option for Offline listening, or were you unaware of that fact? Apple's one will probably offer this too.....
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Yes, but that leaves you locked to their selections and your combined efforts. Rather just go ahead and own the files myself and do the work myself.
 
So, how exactly is this going to be better than Spotify, besides (presumably) a consolidated front end for my downloaded and streamed music. (Although arguably, Spotify offers the same, just the other way round).

Convince me, Apple!

I like many others would have far preferred more focus on Apple TV, home automation, iOS and OSX.
 
MH01 said:
I suspect for some individuals it will be the Apple part, it has to be cause if people are saying they are going to leave spottily without having any details, it's brand loyalty.
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I'm switching because it will be integrated better into my Mac and my iOS devices, for starters. Additionally, because then I'm not having to switch from Spotify to my iTunes library to listen to AC/DC, The Beatles or Taylor Swift, as they're not on Spotify...

Or you still assuming I'm doing it out of brand loyalty?
 
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racer1441 said:
Yes, but that leaves you locked to their selections and your combined efforts. Rather just go ahead and own the files myself and do the work myself.
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The offline will work in tandem with your existing collection/playlists though. I think you're going out of your way to be obtuse. It's not as complicated as you make it sound.
 
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