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Competition is good.

I think Sony will likely have a decent competing device...let's not clamp ourselves into a box and call it a "tablet"...it will be WHATEVER Sony wants it to be.

Apple beat Sony with the iPod invention...Sony's not going to get caught with their pants down on Round 2...with this handheld video game/movie player thingy that Apple releases late in March.

-Eric

Rebranded PSP?
 
Dude, you come off as a major shill. If you want any of your comments to be taken seriously, tone it down a bit. The sun does not shine out of Steve Jobs' ass.

Dude, it's not worth it. The comments of LTD and LagunaSol are so predictable you can set your watch to them. I recommend utilizting your ignore list. It eliminates much of the "noise" that has developed here in the last few years.

On topic, this is not a zero sum game. Sony AND Apple can both be successful in the handheld space. For people like most of us here, Sony will need to differentiate themselves greatly to get us to buy their product because we are so tightly integrated with OS X and iTunes. Apple products are really the only things that integrate easily with those things. But most people don't use OS X. Most people don't use an iPhone. Most people don't have much, if any, DRM audio or video content. If Sony can offer features Apple doesn't, can provide users an easy way to migrate their content to the device, and can offer an easy to use content delivery system, then they can succeed.

It won't be easy, but iTunes started somewhere as well. And iTunes doesn't do everything perfectly. I know several people that hate iTunes and would love to try something else. I don't agree with them, but they are entitled to their opinion, and more choice would be welcome.
 
Dude, it's not worth it. The comments of LTD and LagunaSol are so predictable you can set your watch to them. I recommend utilizting your ignore list. It eliminates much of the "noise" that has developed here in the last few years.

On topic, this is not a zero sum game. Sony AND Apple can both be successful in the handheld space. For people like most of us here, Sony will need to differentiate themselves greatly to get us to buy their product because we are so tightly integrated with OS X and iTunes. Apple products are really the only things that integrate easily with those things. But most people don't use OS X. Most people don't use an iPhone. Most people don't have much, if any, DRM audio or video content. If Sony can offer features Apple doesn't, can provide users an easy way to migrate their content to the device, and can offer an easy to use content delivery system, then they can succeed.

It won't be easy, but iTunes started somewhere as well. And iTunes doesn't do everything perfectly. I know several people that hate iTunes and would love to try something else. I don't agree with them, but they are entitled to their opinion, and more choice would be welcome.

Sony, unfortunately, bears no resemblance to Apple in terms of management, talent, design philosophy, the fundamentals. Sony requires a radical redefinition of "handheld device" in order to make a real impact. Apple approaches tech from an entirely different place than their competitors. It all comes down to taste, motivation, and attitude - a willingness to refuse to compromise and to head in the opposite direction from licensing, OEMs and all that messy business that just kills the User Experience.

Sony just aint there yet. There is no reason to think their latest me-too attempt will be any different from anyone else's.

That "magic touch" in tech (which puts the User Experience front-and-centre) is extremely rare outside Cupertino.
 
So everyone should see where Apple is going by now. The iPad and the revival of the Mac gaming scene will open the door for Apple to build a gaming console. One that will be powered by Apple's own silicon and will have a App store ready for it to plug into to download any of 100s of thousands of apps, games (of course), and other media. This new AppleTV hardware will have an iPad based OS and will come with a magic mouse looking device that is its wireless controller. :cool:
 
another thing Sony does which also hurts themselves is constantly trying to create standards. They tried this with the Memory Stick, only recently have they surrendered and put SD card support on their products.

Just yesterday someone in the office need to export photos from their Sony compact, no luck, no one had a MS reader, the connecter was a Sony one, not micro USB. Things like this is just a big F*&^ YOU to the consumer if you ask me.
 
I have no love for Sony. It really is one of the few companies I despise. This is the company the basically put Sega out of the console business with a product that at the time was overpriced and overhyped. The PS2 was not any better than the Dreamcast in my opinion. I moved on from my Dreamcast to buy a PS2 because at least they had new games. It failed as soon as the warranty expired with disc read errors.

Since this bleak time, I moved on to Nintendo Gamecube and Wii and I have also moved from Windows to a Mac. Sony is a company that is too large and mismanaged with little to no innovation. The last good Sony product was the Trinitron Television.
 
another thing Sony does which also hurts themselves is constantly trying to create standards. They tried this with the Memory Stick, only recently have they surrendered and put SD card support on their products.

It also killed them with Compact Discs, Floppy Discs, and Blu-Ray. I really wish Betamax had won out, lousy porn producers.
 
Those things lasted forever.

I still have a 35 inch CRT that my kids use for their primary crappy kids shows, and Wii gaming. Picture is still vibrant, sound still excellent. Too bad it weighs a frickin TON!

For me, Sony Bravia 120hz 52 inch LCD. If that thing last half the life of my Trinitron I will be a happy camper.
 
Why do you bother to post on here? Oh yea you always say.. 'I have pc AND mac and love both!' Doesn't sound like it - your history shows that you have been here to rip Apple since you joined with a few vague posts to support your claim of being neutral or somewhat accepting of owning and perhaps actually liking one of your *treasured* Apple products. A troll will always infiltrate a message board of something they hate and claim to have voice via being bipartisan whereas it's far from the truth.

The use of the word 'fanboy' these days is so tiring and frankly childish. If you can't hold a legitimate argument, pull the 'fanboy' card. 16 year olds are doing on digg, 4chan, youtube, you name it. Maybe you are 16. It's not your fault if so, *everyone* is doing it.

These forums are frequented by people that love apple products - big surprise huh? There are valid arguments against Apple and some of their decisions but you are not presenting any. So drop the BS.

Apple, Microsoft, Sony, Dell, etc, they all have good products AND bad ones too. I'm not just "in love" with one brand and say everything else is garbage.

People here act like Apple is "THE BEST" at "EVERYTHING", while they are not.

I Post on here because I can. If you don't like my posts you can always put me on your ignore list, and you will never see another one of my posts. Simple right? Instead you go through my history to come on here and post your opinion on what I should post and how. That seems pretty lame.

I don't agree with some people on here so I give my opinion. I also agree with some and reaffirm that. That's why it's called a discussion board.

The word troll is played out. It takes less effort to call someone a troll than to debate them on the issue. Maybe you don't really read the entire thread, you just pick and choose.

Here is something I wrote earlier, and was waiting for a debate but I just got called a troll.

Originally Posted by *LTD*
The thing is, Apple has been "pushing technology further" on their own for years now, and in fact, Apple is usually the one forcing everyone else to up their game.

End of quote.

My response.

"Pushing Technology Further", Please don't make me laugh. Apple takes a back seat when it comes to Tech, where is Blu-ray, HDMI, core i5/i7 Laptops, where is a REAL tablet, where is the touch screen iMac (they can't even get the LCD to work right on latest model)? Where? All of that and much more is already available AND has been available in the real technology market for some time now. Oh... One more thing. Where is the iPhone camera build in flash? Too much technology to handle, a flash.

I guess you've never been to a CES show. You should go and expand your horizon a bit.

Here is a little taste of what "Pushing Technology Further" really means.

Best Notebook of CES 2010: Lenovo Ideapad U1 Hybrid notebook (Summer 2010)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iki2ohoVyeI
 
I really don't have to much faith in sony after the Latest PSP's

Its just so easy to buy stuff on Apple products..... Sony just does not get it. First ya got to click ok sign a license agreement log in with your psp password that is different than everything you have or you had to change it to something else ... its just stupid.

Lets see I hope its true but the way things are going iPad ho
 
Good!

Good! Apple is in dire need of some serious competition on all fronts (it'll get them to do even more).
 
I really don't have to much faith in sony after the Latest PSP's

Its just so easy to buy stuff on Apple products..... Sony just does not get it. First ya got to click ok sign a license agreement log in with your psp password that is different than everything you have or you had to change it to something else ... its just stupid.

Lets see I hope its true but the way things are going iPad ho

How is that any different than signing up for an iTunes account?

There are many things to criticize Sony about, but this is not one of them.
 
The last Sony product I bought was almost 10 years ago. Like the 2 Sony products I'd bought prior to that, it died a couple months past warranty and I was told I was SOL by Sony's "customer relations."

So, yeah... if I'm in the market for anything, including a tablet device, Sony ain't on my shopping list.

360>ps3>wii

Nice Digg impression.
 
Yeah, i will find that most of them have a Wii

Same goes true for the US.

But that's a different type of gamer... Hardcore gamers don't play Wii. You can bend it all you want... PS3 outsold XBox 360 in Europe and Asia even though it was released a year later.
 
Same reaction to the statement - it's simply false. Perhaps the author consoles, not mobile?

I agree. Without giving any concrete data, I think Sony pretty
much ruled during the PS1/PS2 era, and Nintendo regained
leader status arond 2006-2007 with the DS and then the Wii.
 
Of course. If you'd like to peruse my comment history you'd see plenty of examples.
I should have bookmarked that one post. Otherwise you're asking a great leap of faith.

My sig is an inside joke regarding one of the more notorious anti-Apple shills that camps these forums.
I still think you're far too paranoid.

Which are actually considered the best products of their kind. It's amazing how you can separate yourself from reality like that.

The industry. Consumers. Pundits. You name it, they're in love with them.\

Apple products are the Gold Standard in design and usability. Been this way for years. And design and usability play big with the industry and consumers alike. Even Apple's competitors love their products, so much so, in fact, that they're copying them furiously.
How is someone else's reality better than my own?

I'll be sure to be incapable of independent thought next time.
 
360>ps3>wii
opinion>opinion>opinion

Same goes true for the US.

But that's a different type of gamer... Hardcore gamers don't play Wii. You can bend it all you want... PS3 outsold XBox 360 in Europe and Asia even though it was released a year later.
Hardcore gamers don't play Wii? I didn't get the memo.:rolleyes:

I guess these aren't hardcore enough for you?
Super Mario Galaxy
Metroid Prime Trilogy
Super Smash Bros. Brawl
New Super Mario Bros. Wii
No More Heroes
No More Heroes 2: Desperate Struggle
Little King's Story
Muramasa The Demon Blade
Madworld
Tatsunoko vs. Capcom
Punch Out!!
Boom Blox
Wario Land: Shake It
Excitebots
de Blob
Zack & Wiki

Wiiware games such as:
Nyxquest Kindred Spirits
Tetris Party
Lost Winds
Lost Winds: Winter of the Melodias
World of Goo

As well as games coming out later this year including:
Monster Hunter Tri
Red Steel 2
Sin & Punishment: Star Successor
Xenoblade
Metroid Other M
Super Mario Galaxy 2
Zelda Wii

Honestly the people that say such stupid comments such as "hardcore gamers don't play Wii" just really shows you that the person making that comment is far from a "hardcore gamer" themselves.
 
"Pushing Technology Further", Please don't make me laugh. Apple takes a back seat when it comes to Tech, where is Blu-ray, HDMI, core i5/i7 Laptops, where is a REAL tablet, where is the touch screen iMac (they can't even get the LCD to work right on latest model)? Where? All of that and much more is already available AND has been available in the real technology market for some time now. Oh... One more thing. Where is the iPhone camera build in flash? Too much technology to handle, a flash.

I guess you've never been to a CES show. You should go and expand your horizon a bit.

Here is a little taste of what "Pushing Technology Further" really means.

Best Notebook of CES 2010: Lenovo Ideapad U1 Hybrid notebook (Summer 2010)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iki2ohoVyeI

You are what I would call a benchracer. Apple sells to a demographic that wants a device that just works. You aren't part of Apple's demographic.

Ironically, they seem to be very successful with their strategy.

Lenovo's hybrid sucks, IMHO, but evidently, I'm not the CES demographic.
 
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