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Sony Working on App to Stream PS4 Games on Mac and PC

flychild said:
I use an Avermedia ExtremeCapU3 to play PS4 on my mac mini/Thunderbolt display works great no lag.
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Do you know if the BlackMagic Intensity Shuttle for Thunderbolt can do this with no lag?
I believe the main difference between the devices is the max framerate - 1080p60 capture for the ExtremeCapU3 and 1080p30 for the Intensity Shuttle. Whilst currently I have a monitor with a spare HDMI port, eventually I hope to have a 5K iMac with one of these capture devices essentially acting as a HDMI input :D
 
And with the app (that may release in 2016 if we are lucky.) are we going to get full support for the PS4 controller including bluetooth for PC and Mac.

The fact that Sony will support mac does give them one benefit. There is no way Microsoft will ever have a mac client
 
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Iconoclysm said:
This is true, wasn't trying to be a jerk or anything - just saying that this is in response to what MS did just recently...which is in turn a response to what Sony did with Vita and Nintendo did with the Wii U gamepad.
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True, and steam have done with in-home streaming (and done even better with their steam link), and nvidia have done with their shield "console" and so forth. All good, glad some posters are elated with the Sony moving in the same direction.
 
Seeing Fallout 4 on the homepage of MacRumors, I just wanted to comment that this might be my favorite single player game of all time. I never played any of the earlier games—for some reason I just didn't think it was for me. But I decided to try it and it's amazing. If you've never tried it I highly recommend giving it a look.

As for the whole streaming thing, I don't see the point. Will the lag be low enough? Personally I just keep two Xbox One power supplies in my house. One in my office that I use an HDMI splitter to share a monitor with my Mac, and downstairs I just have to plug in the power and HDMI. The switch takes less than a minute in total. All I have to do is carry the box downstairs.
 
Seriously, what use would this be?!? Xbox do it, and the only reason to do this is if the tv you use isn't working
 
Iconoclysm said:
Xbox One already does this with Windows, it's not their idea.
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Wii U's had off-screen gameplay for a long time. And the PS4 already streams to Vita (I'm sure I read somewhere that offscreen play was coming to tablets and Sony TV's too, announced years ago).

ArtOfWarfare said:
I just laugh at you people who made the wrong choice.

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Now if only Nintendo would release some games for it. It's both hilarious and sad that Nintendo seems to be clueless about why the console is doing so poorly - it's been out for four years and still has a severe shortage of good games.
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As true as that statement is I'm still playing my Wii U more than my PS4 or PC. There's just nothing as good as Mario Kart 8 and Smash Bros right now, and I'm still trying to 100% New Mario and Mario 3D World in co-op. I'd like more 3rd party developers to support it to lengthen the life of the system though.

macduke said:
Seeing Fallout 4 on the homepage of MacRumors, I just wanted to comment that this might be my favorite single player game of all time. I never played any of the earlier games—for some reason I just didn't think it was for me. But I decided to try it and it's amazing. If you've never tried it I highly recommend giving it a look.

As for the whole streaming thing, I don't see the point. Will the lag be low enough? Personally I just keep two Xbox One power supplies in my house. One in my office that I use an HDMI splitter to share a monitor with my Mac, and downstairs I just have to plug in the power and HDMI. The switch takes less than a minute in total. All I have to do is carry the box downstairs.
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That doesn't seem very convenient though. "All I have to do is unplug my console and carry it into another room", when the solution (for both Xbox and PS4, and the Wii U before it) is to just fire up the relay device.

Lag is very low for Vita remote play, I don't know the maths but by using a hi speed camera I worked out the Vita was 3 frames behind the PS4 on a 60fps game, it feels like you're playing on a TV with one or two post-processing features enabled. To me that's fine for what it accomplishes, and I find off-site streamed games to be too laggy.
 
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Lahmy88 said:
Unfortunatley not. The PSTV only allows a max of 720p output from it's HDMI port so definitely not 1080p streaming. I also found this little bit of info on whatisplaystation4.com

Eurogamer also did a beautifully detailed review on the PSTV ;)
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The ps4 can record 1080p to its hdd (or stream 1080p to twitch etc) so there's no reason to think it couldn't stream that if the target device was higher resolution? 720p still looks decent though at least.
 
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Alright ! Sony can achieve quality 1080p gaming on macs! This will get around apples "somewhat" poor GPU choices if u like to game .
 
Dagless said:
I'd like more 3rd party developers to support it to lengthen the life of the system though.
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Through all the Nintendo consoles that I've played on (N64-Wii U), I don't think Nintendo has had much of a line up for 3rd party developers. There was Rare which was always amazing, and Sega and Ubisoft sometimes made good games, too.

I'd say 90% of the great games for Nintendo consoles were Nintendo's, though.

Anyways, on the note of Rare, I have Yooka-Laylee preordered for my Wii U. In case you missed it, the team that made Banjo-Kazooie and its sequel left Rare to form their own team (Playtonic), and they raised funds via Kickstarter to make a spiritual successor to BK (since the rights for the actual BK IP belong to Rare, not them).

I'm expecting that + StarFox Zero + the new Zelda will probably wrap up the games I end up buying for the Wii U.
 
ArtOfWarfare said:
Through all the Nintendo consoles that I've played on (N64-Wii U), I don't think Nintendo has had much of a line up for 3rd party developers. There was Rare which was always amazing, and Sega and Ubisoft sometimes made good games, too.

I'd say 90% of the great games for Nintendo consoles were Nintendo's, though.

Anyways, on the note of Rare, I have Yooka-Laylee preordered for my Wii U. In case you missed it, the team that made Banjo-Kazooie and its sequel left Rare to form their own team (Playtonic), and they raised funds via Kickstarter to make a spiritual successor to BK (since the rights for the actual BK IP belong to Rare, not them).

I'm expecting that + StarFox Zero + the new Zelda will probably wrap up the games I end up buying for the Wii U.
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I saw it but I wasn't a fan of Banjo Kazooie. But for Nintendo games, even if nobody else made games for their hardware I'd still buy their hardware just for their stellar first party output. All's thats left on my Wii U list is that new Zelda, and hopefully we get more Smash Bros and Mario Kart DLC too. (If they want to sell 4 new Mario Kart cups every year that's fine by me!)
 
ArtOfWarfare said:
I just laugh at you people who made the wrong choice.

Been playing on my Wii U with or without the TV from the day it came out.

Now if only Nintendo would release some games for it. It's both hilarious and sad that Nintendo seems to be clueless about why the console is doing so poorly - it's been out for four years and still has a severe shortage of good games.

No Metroid or F-Zero. No mainline Zelda or Mario. Kirby, Yoshi, Toad, and Pikmin are all insane let downs that feel like Nintendo rushed them out the door (you had 4 years and 6 teams - what the hell were they doing?)
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I know I made the wrong choice when I did not even think about buying the Wii U.
As soon as I see all my baby cousins and friends' children (ages between 4 - 12), I know I made the wrong choice by not buying the Wii U. My future kids would love that console...
 
My Wii ( original ) has been hacked to run ROMs. Best choice I made for that old clunker and even the kids love some of the classics. WiiU is what the Wii should have been hardware wise from the beginning, but not going further down the rabbit hole of Nintendo's crappy ownership system. Their crappy ownership model is also why I ran screaming from their handheld options this holiday season despite attractive pricing.
 
Jeaz said:
And Sony already did it with PS TV and GaiKai, well before Microsoft did it for Windows..
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I'm pretty sure Sony already did it with Windows years ago. The Vaio laptops all came with PS3 remote play for a while, but it never really caught on. All quibbling about whose tribe did it first aside, the history's kind of interesting.

Not that many games worked with remote play on the PS3->PSP anyways, but I believe they crippled it because they didn't want people capturing game video, which in hindsight is pretty insane as now they push that so hard as a feature of the PS4. They just couldn't anticipate the importance of Twitch in 2008 or so.
 
Lahmy88 said:
Are you guessing at 1080p or can you reference a source that states this? Sure would love to see actual 1080p streaming gameplay!!!
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It's theoretically possible if they're using similar technology to Steam in Home game streaming, and not doing any rendering locally.

I currently use Steam's In Home game streaming technology from my gaming desktop to my 2011 MBA. And I'm able to play 1080p @ 60fps over Wireless N quite nicely.

Plug my MBA into my TV with HDMI and i've got ability to play any PC game I own on my TV.

I'm imagining Sony is going along the same technological route with this, so it should be perfectly capable.
 
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