I agree... what is the use of such an expensive device when you do not use the device?
I'm careful with it, yes, but at some point some people are too careful.
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Soon to be released iPhone, will it be Waterproof from the factory?
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I'm careful with it, yes, but at some point some people are too careful.
I agree making the glass unbreakable is more important but I don't think waterproof phones are pointless because we all make mistakes. Sometimes, we can spill drinks on our phone at restaurants or bars, and sometimes, our phone can fall out of our pockets and maybe drop into a fountain or something. happened to my mom. or your hands slip while using it. or someone accidentally bumps into you while you have it in your hand and it falls into a puddle. endless scenarios. we're humans and everybody makes mistakes. What if one of your dumba$$ friends decided to push you into a pool while you had your phone? does that mean you don't deserve that phone because you got dumba$$ friends?
I've lost two iPhones in 5 years due to water damage and have a graduate degree in engineering. A waterproof or water resistant phone would be incredibly useful. Hell, it might save Apple money from replacing phones on Applecare (but probably not).
A waterproof (or close to it) phone would likely be the biggest feature of a new iPhone. I know it would be for me. And likely many others. lol @ calling it useless.
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eh... there are waterproof watches rated at depths. things can be waterproof at 5 meters depth, 10 meters depth, etc.
You really need a source to realize that salt water at the beach and chlorine and other chemicals in a pool will eat up any electronic device?
Im not saying treat it like a flower but all one has to do is take care of their item and it will last longer that's all.
I agree making the glass unbreakable is more important but I don't think waterproof phones are pointless because we all make mistakes. Sometimes, we can spill drinks on our phone at restaurants or bars, and sometimes, our phone can fall out of our pockets and maybe drop into a fountain or something. happened to my mom. or your hands slip while using it. or someone accidentally bumps into you while you have it in your hand and it falls into a puddle. endless scenarios. we're humans and everybody makes mistakes. What if one of your dumba$$ friends decided to push you into a pool while you had your phone? does that mean you don't deserve that phone because you got dumba$$ friends?
Then the dumb people need to pony up the cash, head over to Apple and buy you a new phone.
I agree making the glass unbreakable is more important but I don't think waterproof phones are pointless because we all make mistakes. Sometimes, we can spill drinks on our phone at restaurants or bars, and sometimes, our phone can fall out of our pockets and maybe drop into a fountain or something. happened to my mom. or your hands slip while using it. or someone accidentally bumps into you while you have it in your hand and it falls into a puddle. endless scenarios. we're humans and everybody makes mistakes. What if one of your dumba$$ friends decided to push you into a pool while you had your phone? does that mean you don't deserve that phone because you got dumba$$ friends?
This happened to my friend... He had an HTC Evo. I am glad it wasn't me, I had my phone and my work phone in my pocket that day.
Thanks for the link, I was not aware there was a patent from Apple.
I used the term waterproof, as it is the most common one to illustrate the topic, and here is its definition:
waterproof |ˈwôtərˌpro͞of, ˈwä-|
adjective
impervious to water: a waterproof hat.
not liable to be washed away by water: waterproof ink.
nounBrit.
a garment, esp. a coat, that keeps out water.
verb [ with obj. ]
make impervious to water.
impervious |imˈpərvēəs|
adjective
not allowing fluid to pass through: an impervious layer of basaltic clay.
[ predic. ] (impervious to) unable to be affected by: he worked, apparently impervious to the heat.
And about the unbreakable glass: any material resists different levels of stress, for chemically tempered glass like the one used in the iPhone resists a lot of bending and some abuse, however some situations can apply enough stress on the the glass to make it shatter, or the presence of flaws in the glass plus the applied stress.
For glass to break there is a need of two key factors = enough stress applied to the glass and a flaw in the glass.
Tempered glass requires a stress high enough to overcome the compression layer and release the tension inside the glass core or a combination with a flaw to accelerate the release of the energy inside the glass, therefore it will break.
If your iPhone screen is broken in big size fragments it "could be" an indication of poor tempering.
To increase the glass resistance they could play with things like increasing the thickness, the tempering level and adding more protection to the sides.
The weakest area of the glass is the peripheral surface where it was cut and ground, therefore changing the design a little bit to have better protection to the sides can help to increase its survival rate, however this is the typical controversy that the designers and Apple love to challenge to make it a beautiful device.
The glass manufacturers will always struggle with the glass thickness and the different manufacturing difficulties, raw material variation, production throughput and so on.
And if they are researching other types of materials to have a similar forms, functions and feel they could take it to the next level.
As the current design is flat, it is easier to manufacture consistently, if they wanted to make it with a curvature could make it also a little more resistant but will increase the manufacturing difficulty.
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Brilliant!
Also, stop selling cases... just don't drop it!
And remove those expensive airbags and seatbelts from cars...just don't get in a car accident!
My son whom is very careful with his iPhone jumped in the pool (we had been in FL a whopping 3 hours) and had mistakenly not removed his phone from his pocket. The look on his face when he discovered it was worth the price I had to pay to replace it.
Yeah. Nobody's perfect- and this stuff happens a lot to be sure.
Would love to see the feature; but something tells me apple would loose money by offering it off stupid people like my son -/sarcasm.
Yeah. Nobody's perfect- and this stuff happens a lot to be sure.
Would love to see the feature; but something tells me apple would loose money by offering it off stupid people like my son -/sarcasm.
I have a waterproof camera that is not that much bigger than an iPhone. Yes, the speaker works underwater. And the camera looks like a regular camera. No funny plastic parts, it's all metal or a metal alloy. Look it up the Olympus cameras. I have an older one.
The folks in this thread who thinks waterproof iPhone is useless are not forward thinkers. It's that type of close mindedness that stifles innovation. If they can do it, let them, why discourage it? If the appearance and the function of the iPhone won't change despite waterproofing, then why take a feature away just because of your narrow vision of what kind of potential a water proof iPhone is?
How many times have you gone to the the pool or beach or lake and wanted to take a picture in the water, or better yet under the water? I don't know about you guys, but I have taken literally thousands of photos in the water with my waterproof camera.
Seriously, there are some people out there that think they know what is best for everyone based on only what they think they know. Get over yourselves. Your opinion is just one in a billion, and a few of those billion happen to be more informed than you. Which one do you think matter most? Whatever the answer, it's not yours.
How many times have you gone to the the pool or beach or lake and wanted to take a picture in the water, or better yet under the water? I don't know about you guys, but I have taken literally thousands of photos in the water with my waterproof camera.
Seriously, there are some people out there that think they know what is best for everyone based on only what they think they know. Get over yourselves. Your opinion is just one in a billion, and a few of those billion happen to be more informed than you. Which one do you think matter most? Whatever the answer, it's not yours.
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I'm not saying it can't be done. But it is common knowledge that harsh chemicals will damage the touch capabilities of an iPhone screen. Yes, Apple could, with existing tech, make a water resistent iPhone that could stand up to the salt/chemicals while we swim. I don't deny that. But the cost to manufacture something like that for such a small percentage of frankly careless users is too high to justify. Apple, or any company, does not care if you break your gadgets. If you broke one that means they already have your money and they are likely to see your money a second time around since you broke your first toy.
It's not about progressive thinking here, it's about cost vs actual real life value. I would not want to pay a higher price for a waterproof iPhone because there is no reason for me to bring my phone into the water. I imagine a lot of people would agree with that. As for it just being a proactive measure against damage- I have never broken an iPhone, ever. Not due to water or cracked glass or anything else. So I'll take the risk
I think somebody raised the arguement before when this rumor surfaced that many replacements out of warranty have to be from water damage. If apple made the phone water proof, they'd be losing a big chunk of money because people wouldn't need replacements. It simply won't happen.
It's still broken.
And unless you want multilayered think glass on your smartphone, I think glass that tough is out of the question.
Why someone assumes that the iPhone will cost more money if they add the waterproofing?
If Apple reduces warranty claims will actually save money, they replacement phones are about $149, way less than an out of a contract price.
That multilayered glass in the video was broken, the inter layers were keeping it together like laminated glass.
Now this is something else:
OOPO Finder Hammer
If Apple reduces warranty claims will actually save money, they replacement phones are about $149, way less than an out of a contract price.
That multilayered glass in the video was broken, the inter layers were keeping it together like laminated glass.
Now this is something else:
OOPO Finder Hammer
If you get some water or soda on your phone you just wipe it off, Nothing wont happen......I've done it dozen of times. I even walk short distances in storming rain with my iphone in my hand, Nothing happens.
But waterproof? Come on...Just don't drop it in the pool.
If this happens, it isnt going to be a feature. If Apple chooses to incorporate a technology like this they will just do it and let customers enjoy the iPhone's newfound resistance to damage.
Remember the whole Gorilla Glass thing? Has Apple even officially copped to using it yet? They just used it and allowed people to enjoy their much less scratch prone displays without setting it up as a huge new feature that must be tested.
Remember the whole Gorilla Glass thing? Has Apple even officially copped to using it yet? They just used it and allowed people to enjoy their much less scratch prone displays without setting it up as a huge new feature that must be tested.