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It will not make a difference as 99.999999% of iOS users will stay within the boundaries of the App Store. I know I will not be venturing out. All App Store purchases go on my Apple Card including subscriptions. If I have an issue I only have one place to go to get it addressed.

There also is zero chance I will ever go to a 3rd party app store to download a phone app. There will be a few zealots who will while the rest of the world will carry on.
 
It's coming from people like me. I am an Apple user. I own an iPad. It's the best tablet out there. Do you know why I don't own an iPhone? It's because I cannot do anything close to what I can do on an Android phone. If there were decent Android tablets I'd probably buy one.
Oh puhleeze. You're not an Apple user, you're just an Android troll with a MacRumors account. 🙄
 
Apps give the iPhone/iPad value allowing Apple to charge premium prices for the devices. An iPhone/iPad with no third-party apps would be practically useless.

The cost of App Store infrastructure is just the cost of doing business.

A cost which a company like Apple should be able to recoup.

Apple and only Apple should decide their business model. Companies have an expectation of where their revenue comes from. The expectation of some people that just because they have purchased an iPhone they have subsidized its entire cost is flawed.

If Apple can statistically determine that each user of the iPhone contributes X dollars to the bottom line, they put that into their calculations when determining the price of the hardware. If all of a sudden the App Store is a lower source of revenue, they are within their right to raise the prices to meet the profit margins they want/expect.
 
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In your face, Apple. Now it is time for competition - just offer a better experience and a better price point than competing payment providers and you are ready to go!!!
That’s not how business works. Stupid businesses race to the bottom. It’s not sustainable. You get poor products with low profit margin and poor support.
 
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Amusingly, this would allow Google to sell YouTube subscriptions on iOS at regular price rather than 30% inflated.
Spotify and more also.
 
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They (Apple) should charge for what exactly? For the sake of the dividends that go to the shareholders perhaps?

Here's a list of things Apple provides to developers which they can charge for (or already do)
  • Apple's Developers Program
  • Being listed in the App Store
  • Development tools like xCode
  • Test tools like TestFlight
  • API access

The last one is huge and only your imaginations sets the limit.
 
Apps give the iPhone/iPad value allowing Apple to charge premium prices for the devices. An iPhone/iPad with no third-party apps would be practically useless.

The cost of App Store infrastructure is just the cost of doing business.
No way. People wanted the iPhone before it had an App Store. Adding an App Store and allowing 3rd party apps increasing the joy and interest in the platform sure. But iPhone is Apple’s ecosystem. It’s not black and white. No one owes you a free ride on the App Store using all of Apple’s technologies. 🙄
 
I see nothing about when this soon-to-be law goes into effect in this or the WSJ article. If the timing is too aggressive then Apple may simply shut down all app purchases and subscriptions in South Korea.

Heck, Apple may do it anyways to play a game of chicken with the government and send a message to other countries. I don’t think they should, but they might.

Apple doesn’t really need app revenue. They could take just 3% or whatever to pay the credit card fees and pay the server cost out of pocket. It would still be worth it because it’s a major driver of iPhone sales, which are their bread and butter.

If I were Tim Cook, I would drop the cut to something much lower, maybe 10%, ASAP and encourage Google to do likewise. That would take the force out of most of the anti-trust stuff globally. And it would still allow Apple to have their control. Given the results here in South Korea, shareholders would be less upset because the threat of lost App Store revenue is now very real.

It’s better to keep your walled garden and charge lower admission then let the government tear down the walls!
globally app store earns like 70 billion USD for Apple. Pretty sure they need that. A 10% reduction in commissions is still huge. Though I dare say apple will have to figure out a model which cannot be targeted by the governments... which will last for another 10 years or so I suppose.
 
What they need to do is start trialing some of their countermeasures they have been working on for this eventuality.

😂 “some of their countermeasures”

I’m sure it’ll be effective. /s Apple depends on developers more than developers depend on Apple.

Apple knows it’s gone way too far. Countermeasures were discussed back in 2009 and nobody has dared open the folder since.
 
Google and Apple are getting what they deserve: regulation.
It should have happened years ago.

Next on the list (Apple only):

- allow sideloading
- allow third party web browser engines (so you can have real Firefox with add-ons, in particular ad-blocking).
- generally speaking, make mobile devices general purpose computers rather than appliances owners have little control over
 
No way. People wanted the iPhone before it had an App Store. Adding an App Store and allowing 3rd party apps increasing the joy and interest in the platform sure. But iPhone is Apple’s ecosystem. It’s not black and white. No one owes you a free ride on the App Store using all of Apple’s technologies. 🙄

What are these strings of words? “It’s not black and white.”

People pay 30% on nearly every IAP. Users aren’t getting a free ride. Developers aren’t getting a free ride.
 
Here's a list of things Apple provides to developers which they can charge for (or already do)
  • Apple's Developers Program
  • Being listed in the App Store
  • Development tools like xCode
  • Test tools like TestFlight
  • API access

The last one is huge and only your imaginations sets the limit.
Yes, especially APIs for custom neural network hardware and machine learning APIs, their own Metal graphics APIs, text layout APIs, AR bores me but hey that finds surfaces and objects moving around in live video streams. It’s impressive.
 
Which initially sounds great until developer decides to only offer their app on a different store so I’m forced to use an unknown 3rd party biller.
I wouldn’t put it by any corporation if they can make a few more $$$
Basically it boils down to is who do you want to pay? Apple, developer, google through ads.
Then simply find another app.

Why should the developer cater to just you?
Why should Apple cater to just you?
 
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I’m saying that this will have negligible effect on Apple because I believe most users will reject any options outside the App Store.

No more use of Touch ID/Face ID for transactions, built-in security, and the plethora of developer tools that Apple provides. I don’t think users want this, and I don’t think most developers want this. This is something only politicians with no concept of the technology could dream up.

What makes you think Touch ID / Face ID is locked to Apple’s payments?

Even WhatsApp chats can use Touch ID / Face ID; there’s few restrictions of what it can be used for.

Apple can certainly make up fake restrictions, but usually anti-trust judgements force “reasonable access to first-party APIs”.

Apple has had a decade to find its legal footing. It clearly failed.
 
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Going to be interesting to see Apple's response.

999$ developer annual fees for South Korean developers.

I don't doubt a second for Apple and Google to find evil workarounds to this new law... unless the law anticipated it in great detail.
 
Sure Apple, this will reduce the business for registered apple developers… sure… if I have my app in more stores and in some I have to pay much less commission, how is that less business?. Unless YOU block the apps/developers.
 
The thing is that these payment processing companies don’t have an App Store to manage. They don’t vet the apps, they don’t provide the SDKs, and they don’t pay for the infrastructure used to host them either.

They are literally riding on billions of App Store infrastructure for free. Apple pays for all this out of its own pocket, which is where that 30% goes. Offsetting the costs of running the App Store.

It’s easy to charge less, when you are also doing less and providing less for the money.

You do understand the App Store has $64 billion in revenue each year, right?

Where on Earth did you create the idea anything here is being done “for free”?
 
too bad, so sad.

I am on the side that will in the end win. Vendor lock in is bad for the consumer. It provides too few choices. I love Apple OSes. What I don't love is the lack of freedom on the iOS platform. I want to have my phone my way. I cannot change the springboard in iOS. But I can change the launcher in Android. I cannot choose my own appstore in iOS. I can in Android. I can actually THEME Android. In iOS I am stuck with only changing a few colors here and there.
 
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