Space Black owners thread.

Branskins said:
I actually don't see plastic in this photo. I can see the border between the glass and the casing. When this is blended together more I guess you could perceive it as plastic...or as I like to think of it...ceramic.

I'm willing to bet based on the nature of this watch, it will always look better in person whereas the standard SS catches a shine easier in photos.

Is it weird that the casing of the standard watch is so shiny that it sometimes look like fake chrome to me? (Like the iPhone 3G border).

I think in person none of this will be true
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Exactly correct that the Space Black doesn't photograph well and will invariably look better in real life (or rather, in real time when not static). This shouldn't dissuade anyone from getting the Space Black though, but it does look plasticky to some people under certain lighting conditions for the reasons I mentioned.

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Newtons Apple said:
Defect maybe but not if they are only cosmetic as Apple would claim normal wear and tear.
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Bands not fitting properly has nothing to do with cosmetic.
 
Which parts are DLC coated

Does anyone know which parts of the Space Black watch are coated with DLC? Is it just the watch body, or also the link bracelet?
 
The Space Black looks really plasticky...................











.......when covered in plastic, lol.
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All dressed for work. Needs must.
 
Newtons Apple said:
Everyone needs to get used to the idea that their Apple Watch, even the space black one will not stay looking like new forever. If you wear it, it will get damaged. That is a fact!
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Not necessarily. Here is a pic of my current watch, a Rado ceramic, after about 4 years of daily wear:

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It is still 100% perfect and has, as you can see, a mirror finish. The Rado ceramic is twice as tough as steel. It remains to be seen how tough the DLC is.
 
looks like darth vader's watch.

me likey. (happy that there's a space grey option I could afford though...!!)
 
It scratches pretty easily, though. I try not to worry about it too much, it is meant to be used after all.
 

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I must agree that some photos of the black SS do look kinda plastic. That's definitely not the impression I have had of seeing them for reals. All the watches look much nicer in person and these black SS ones look so, so great
 
saree said:
It scratches pretty easily, though. I try not to worry about it too much, it is meant to be used after all.
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That's a mark and not a scratch, but still very scary for us SB owners. How did you do that? If it really gets marked up that easy, then this forums going to blow up with people squealing about the poor DLC job Apple did on these.

By the way, in case none of you are aware of this. The second wave of :03-:04 orders is shipping out. You will have more company here soon.
 
I have no idea how it happened. Did not bang it against anything. It looks superficial but much lighter than the black coating.
 
I just did a little reading after seeing that scratch pic (and freaking out a little). This is a very good thread: http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.php?223503-Personal-experience-with-PVD-DLC-watches

People with DLC watches by other vendors. Not entirely relevant, as the processes have advanced significantly, but the more recent experiences certainly are.

One thing that worries me is how soft it appears Apple's 316L stainless is. The DLC process doesn't just put a layer on top, it bonds with the metal. Infuses itself into it.

But. This ultra-hard layer of SS infused with DLC is like the hard top layer of a creme brûlée if the 316L is really soft. It's possible that something could penetrate, creating a scratch by pushing the DLC down.

I like this quote from the forum:

The newer pvd is an gas, heat and vacuum that penitrates the steel and not an layer on top of the material.
The surface of the newer pvd is very slippery and is mainly used in surgical instruments.
This never chips, but can be scratched if using an sharp edge of a knife.
Have never had a chance to scratch on my pvd watches of the newer type.
The pvd is not always black, it can be an rainbow of colors.
Sadly, the chinese are now very good at pvd treated the watches, so the swedish company i used to work with is way to expensive.

Well, in our case the "Sadly" is the "not so sadly" :)

Saree, you'll have to let us know if that mark fades in time, through wear. (I'm hoping it's like some DLC scratch tests that we've see, that it's actually on top of the DLC coating), but I'm not going to advise you to take a scotch-brite to try to remove the mark, just in case. :)
 
fischersd said:
I just did a little reading after seeing that scratch pic (and freaking out a little). This is a very good thread: http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.php?223503-Personal-experience-with-PVD-DLC-watches

People with DLC watches by other vendors. Not entirely relevant, as the processes have advanced significantly, but the more recent experiences certainly are.

One thing that worries me is how soft it appears Apple's 316L stainless is. The DLC process doesn't just put a layer on top, it bonds with the metal. Infuses itself into it.

But. This ultra-hard layer of SS infused with DLC is like the hard top layer of a creme brûlée if the 316L is really soft. It's possible that something could penetrate, creating a scratch by pushing the DLC down.

I like this quote from the forum:

The newer pvd is an gas, heat and vacuum that penitrates the steel and not an layer on top of the material.
The surface of the newer pvd is very slippery and is mainly used in surgical instruments.
This never chips, but can be scratched if using an sharp edge of a knife.
Have never had a chance to scratch on my pvd watches of the newer type.
The pvd is not always black, it can be an rainbow of colors.
Sadly, the chinese are now very good at pvd treated the watches, so the swedish company i used to work with is way to expensive.

Well, in our case the "Sadly" is the "not so sadly" :)

Saree, you'll have to let us know if that mark fades in time, through wear. (I'm hoping it's like some DLC scratch tests that we've see, that it's actually on top of the DLC coating), but I'm not going to advise you to take a scotch-brite to try to remove the mark, just in case. :)
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What makes you think that 316L SS is soft? If you're looking at the Brinell hardness of it as shown in many charts, that's the un heat treated number. Once it's heat treated it's far harder. There's a reason why it's the alloy of choice for most SS watches.
 
phpmaven said:
What makes you think that 316L SS is soft? If you're looking at the Brinell hardness of it as shown in many charts, that's the un heat treated number. Once it's heat treated it's far harder. There's a reason why it's the alloy of choice for most SS watches.
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It seems that a lot of people on here are complaining too much about the scratches on the regular SS (but, then, maybe that's just the people here) :)

If it's as hard as other watches, that will be fine - making the watches impervious to most scratch opportunities.

I was party hypothesizing about that scratch that Saree has as well. I did say "if the 316L is really soft"

I certainly hope not. The DLC will wear down over time, but that really should take years.
 
fischersd said:
It seems that a lot of people on here are complaining too much about the scratches on the regular SS (but, then, maybe that's just the people here) :)

If it's as hard as other watches, that will be fine - making the watches impervious to most scratch opportunities.

I was party hypothesizing about that scratch that Saree has as well. I did say "if the 316L is really soft"

I certainly hope not. The DLC will wear down over time, but that really should take years.
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Two different things: the ability to dent it and the ability to scratch it.
 
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