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No its the same. You are not going to tell me that wrapping your MBP in plastic is going to improve user experience for some people. I dont buy that

And I am sorry but I do think its moronic. These people are just a bunch of mindless materialistic consumers that are so afraid to get just a tiny little scratch on their precious little treasure. Its just a computer guys! And you are denying one of the macbooks greatest feature. You are never going to know what it is to use a macbook. Like I said before whats the difference with any generic plastic laptop


And btw there are millions macbooks users without cases or extended warranties or other nonsense things and they dont end up with busted up macbook. Its financially, ethically and environmentally just not sound.

I'm not saying that it's not part of the experience. I'm saying that it doesn't mean that is a part to everybody. Yeah, I love the way my new 17" MBP, and I want it to stay new. I got a case because I plan on moving around. If I move around with my laptop and I have a case on it, I don't have to be so ridiculously paranoid about scratching it. Some people like their laptop to retain the shape and condition it was in the day they received it. How is that stupid to you?

I'm interpreting your argument as "the case is how you know you're using a macbook." How do you figure? Maybe the fact that you're using OS X as well might have something to do with it as well. Maybe the multi-touch experience, the build quality as well? It's not just aesthetics that make it a Mac. Is it a part? Yes, but not the whole thing, and certainly not the defining factor for everyone to buy a Macbook.
 
I'm not saying that it's not part of the experience. I'm saying that it doesn't mean that is a part to everybody. Yeah, I love the way my new 17" MBP, and I want it to stay new. I got a case because I plan on moving around. If I move around with my laptop and I have a case on it, I don't have to be so ridiculously paranoid about scratching it. Some people like their laptop to retain the shape and condition it was in the day they received it. How is that stupid to you?

I'm interpreting your argument as "the case is how you know you're using a macbook." How do you figure? Maybe the fact that you're using OS X as well might have something to do with it as well. Maybe the multi-touch experience, the build quality as well? It's not just aesthetics that make it a Mac. Is it a part? Yes, but not the whole thing, and certainly not the defining factor for everyone to buy a Macbook.

Well maybe OS x. but multi-touch is also on other computers. And thinkpad and those rugged panasonic notebooks offer better build quality. In fact the build quality of the macbook is not that amazing. Why don't you read the threads about people getting yellow palm rests, chipped aluminum, dents, shattered glass, blocked ports because of deformed unibody, overheating problems, loud fan noises. And tons more. If it the build quality was so good why are you using a case then?

But what difference does it make if you want to keep your macbook new when its always in a case and you are never going to enjoy or see it. Tell me what difference does it make? I'd like to know that. Cause I dont understand that.
 
Well maybe OS x. but multi-touch is also on other computers. And thinkpad and those rugged panasonic notebooks offer better build quality. In fact the build quality of the macbook is not that amazing. Why don't you read the threads about people getting yellow palm rests, chipped aluminum, dents, shattered glass, blocked ports because of deformed unibody, overheating problems, loud fan noises. And tons more. If it the build quality was so good why are you using a case then?

But what difference does it make if you want to keep your macbook new when its always in a case and you are never going to enjoy or see it. Tell me what difference does it make? I'd like to know that. Cause I dont understand that.

I've not yet seen multi-touch on a windows based PC that is even remotely close to what OS X offers. Also, it doesn't mean that MBP build quality is bad because other laptops are built more solidly. (if solidly is a word)

I don't plan on having my laptop in the case the entire time. I will use it when I bring it out to class, or to work, to starbucks, or whatever.
 
You are not even using a case. But more importantly why are you buying a macbook if you are using windows and in those environments. When you can just get a similar specced thinkpad that is much more durable, reliable and cheaper to boot.

You sir paid extra cash for nothing. And then you are even wasting more money on cases.


And yes touching aluminum is part of the user experience. Thats one of the main reasons why people buy a macbook. For its design and choice of materials Why should I wrap my macbook in a plastic or silicon case when I will never be able to use it to its fullest potential. Might as well get a similar specced HP Pavilion for $400.

Seriously a waste of money if you ask me.

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You are not enjoying your macbook to its fullest potential. And you are never going to use it to its fullest potential cause you always keep it in that plastic thing. So why bother buying it. A similar HP Pavilion functions and looks the same as your macbook and can be had for a third of the price.


So seriously why even bother buying a macbook. Whats the point? For reliability and durability you can get a similar specced thinkpad for cheaper. And any generic plastic notebook for even way cheaper than a thinkpad.

lol are u done trolling ?

i dont need to run virus scans. i dont get no blue screen of death.

i dont see no pc laptops yet made of alunimum unibody.

and refering to the case. ur saying when u buy a case for a phone, whats the point? what astupid question your refering to
 
Well maybe OS x. but multi-touch is also on other computers. And thinkpad and those rugged panasonic notebooks offer better build quality. In fact the build quality of the macbook is not that amazing. Why don't you read the threads about people getting yellow palm rests, chipped aluminum, dents, shattered glass, blocked ports because of deformed unibody, overheating problems, loud fan noises. And tons more. If it the build quality was so good why are you using a case then?

But what difference does it make if you want to keep your macbook new when its always in a case and you are never going to enjoy or see it. Tell me what difference does it make? I'd like to know that. Cause I dont understand that.

Having the MacBook Pro protected in no way detracts from the user experience. The reason people are using cases like these is because they want to PROTECT their investment. If you have ever seen an aluminum MBP that was used in Iraq or Afghanistan and was unprotected, then you'd understand why cases are so popular. They protect the actual machine itself, thereby preserving the build quality, aesthetic integrity, etc.

Then again, it sounds like you're only here to troll, not to actually engage in constructive discussion. I'd go so far as to wager you have never even used one, based on your remarks.
 
I am going to stop you guys are just saying the same thing over and over again without really answering my question.

But you guys are obviously materialistic. But you are also hypocrites at the same time. You boast about the build quality and then you buy cases for it. And you use fancy words like protecting investment, preserving integrity. What kind of nonsense is that?

I can only recommend a cheap HP Pavilion with a nice bulletproof case for you guys. Don't see the point otherwise to get a macbook. And for your information. I dont use a case for my macbook and my keyboard keys look just fine after one year and I dont have any scratches at all. I have a padded messenger back and I just throw it in there whenever I need to transport it.

People just need to change their mindset and get over that materialistic consumerism and insecurity. Its just not worth it. Just buy it and use it. And buy a new one later down the road.
 
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You are not even using a case. But more importantly why are you buying a macbook if you are using windows and in those environments. When you can just get a similar specced thinkpad that is much more durable, reliable and cheaper to boot.

You sir paid extra cash for nothing. And then you are even wasting more money on cases.


And yes touching aluminum is part of the user experience. Thats one of the main reasons why people buy a macbook. For its design and choice of materials Why should I wrap my macbook in a plastic or silicon case when I will never be able to use it to its fullest potential. Might as well get a similar specced HP Pavilion for $400.

Seriously a waste of money if you ask me.

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You are not enjoying your macbook to its fullest potential. And you are never going to use it to its fullest potential cause you always keep it in that plastic thing. So why bother buying it. A similar HP Pavilion functions and looks the same as your macbook and can be had for a third of the price.


So seriously why even bother buying a macbook. Whats the point? For reliability and durability you can get a similar specced thinkpad for cheaper. And any generic plastic notebook for even way cheaper than a thinkpad.


That was the first site I was on with this MBP and bought the case at the apple store on the way home.

I am in Windows because companies like Fluke and dranetz that sell us $14,000 infrared camera and $7000 meters ONLY OFFER WINDOWS BASED SOFTWARE. I use windows about 4% of the time the machine is on.

Yes I do use both OS's using this machine to it's full potential. I like good equipment, and am willing to pay for it. I have macs from 2002 still running and have had PC's that lasted maybe a year.

No point in arguing over this anymore, to each his own I guess
 
I am going to stop you guys are just saying the same thing over and over again without really answering my question.

But you guys are obviously materialistic. But you are also hypocrites at the same time. You boast about the build quality and then you buy cases for it. And you use fancy words like protecting investment, preserving integrity. What kind of nonsense is that?

I can only recommend a cheap HP Pavilion with a nice bulletproof case for you guys. Don't see the point otherwise to get a macbook. And for your information. I dont use a case for my macbook and my keyboard keys look just fine after one year and I dont have any scratches at all. I have a padded messenger back and I just throw it in there whenever I need to transport it.

People just need to change their mindset and get over that materialistic consumerism and insecurity. Its just not worth it. Just buy it and use it. And buy a new one later down the road.

The only one being hypocritical here is you. People have answered your question REPEATEDLY, yet you choose to ignore those responses so you can continue to repeat your own preconceived notions like a skipping record. Here's some FACTS for you.

#1. The better the overall condition of ANY laptop, the higher the resale value.

#2. Cases like those from Speck and Incase help keep the exterior in pristine condition, which maintains the aesthetics of the machines. You never directly refuted ANYTHING I said earlier, instead choosing to simply repeating your own misinformed opinions as if they are fact.

#3. You repeatedly misuse the term "build quality" when chastizing others for7 protecting the exterior of the machine. Yet you completely IGNORE the fact that "build quality" actually refers to the internal components more so than the exterior.

#4. Your elitist, condescending attitude is far worse than anything you have tried to accuse others of in this thread. Telling people they should buy a cheap HP with a bulletproof case instead of a MAC just because they choose to protect their investment is asinine at best. Using your flawed logic, people who drive a Mercedes should never buy auto insurance or get their cars detailed, as that somehow "cheapens" the experience.
 
Only on MR does a question about a notebook cover wind up in an argument about the validity of using a Windows VM to do some work, and consumer materialism ... :D
 
Speck case here, why its simple, because I want to.

If I want to smear do-do cream on my MBP thats my business, Y U so mad:p:p
 
Best Skin ever on the top and bottom, couldn't be bothered with the sides and a moshi palm guard underneath the keyboard and trackpad.

I think the cases take too much away from the product design, the shiny look to the MBP doesn't bother me too much
 
So much animosity towards a thread that's about a case for a laptop computer, I'm sure there are more important things in this world to get worked up about than this!

However my opinion on cases, have used an Incase hardshell satin in black for a while now and love it to bits. The amount of people that comment on they didnt know apple made MBP's in black :D
 
Hi! I don't normally post on here but I found this converstaion intriguing to say the least.

I have been using a mac for about 3 years and I have been a proud owner of the "Speck Case". I cannot say anything to the initial thread as to what is better. I was digging for some research on the difference between InCase and Speck Case, or any other 3rd party company that makes something similar (i.e. shopping on amazon), as I may need to get a new one since my I may be in store for a new case since the clips have popped off. Though, I modded my old case and cut a piece out of it after upgrading to a later model with the new power adapter.

IN MY OPINION.. Mac's come ready to drop. I have seen numerous macs destroyed and many saved by the use of speck cases. The gear is EXPENSIVE. I am paying for the what is INSIDE and not the OUTSIDE.

I could care less about the "cutting edge" design. In fact, this cutting edge design is so cutting that before I had a Speck case, where I would rest my hands on the laptop would cut into my palms! Yeah, not very comfortable. After receiving the speck case, It fixed the issue of the palm rest and dang am I happy I have it in a case. :)

Yeah, and I have a bright orange case.. soo nice. I can put stickers all over it and BLOCK OUT the apple logo. I am not into branding, nor names.

Realistically, I like the mac for the Operating System, and the screen. Those are great. The keyboard is okay, but the keys rub out after awhile so that gets covered too. I take it into the woods a lot so well, it protects the LOGIC board from rain and some condensation

Yes, resale value.

Okay, i love my speck case. :)
 
Hi All,

I have had both Incase & Speck shell on two previous MBP's - the Incase was definitely a better quality product with superior fitting imho.

The Speck case scratched, marked & pitted the bottom of my UMBP quite badly even though it was taken off & cleaned regularly. Worse, after a while, very large cracks & splitting occurred to the entire bottom shell. I can only assume that this was due to heat dissipated by the UMBP over a period of time which might have degraded the shell somehow - it certainly was never dropped or abused.

As I have a 17" UMBP, I tried desperately to find another brand but the only option is a Speck for this size. I had to buy a new one but this time, I have lined the top & bottom shells with very thin, perforated lint free cloth to avoid the fate again - I strongly suggest you all do the same. If you fancy spending more money, then you can apply something like invisible shield or similar & then put on the Speck shell if that is the one you went for. If not, my advice is to stick to Incase.

Bazzy!
 
Hi All,

I have had both Incase & Speck shell on two previous MBP's - the Incase was definitely a better quality product with superior fitting imho.

The Speck case scratched, marked & pitted the bottom of my UMBP quite badly even though it was taken off & cleaned regularly. Worse, after a while, very large cracks & splitting occurred to the entire bottom shell. I can only assume that this was due to heat dissipated by the UMBP over a period of time which might have degraded the shell somehow - it certainly was never dropped or abused.

As I have a 17" UMBP, I tried desperately to find another brand but the only option is a Speck for this size. I had to buy a new one but this time, I have lined the top & bottom shells with very thin, perforated lint free cloth to avoid the fate again - I strongly suggest you all do the same. If you fancy spending more money, then you can apply something like invisible shield or similar & then put on the Speck shell if that is the one you went for. If not, my advice is to stick to Incase.

Bazzy!

Well said, yes this was a big issue I have had with the speck in the end..it seems there is better heat dispertion in the incase by having a larger heat ventilation shaft on the underneath, as wella better way in clasping. Along with that, the inside is also lined with the satin finish for those that have the satin styled product and not the seethru.
 
Looks butt ugly. Pointless if you ask me to encase it. You miss out on the joy of touching and looking at its marvelous design.

Why be afraid of getting a scratch on it when you permanently keep it enclosed in a case. Seriously? What does it matter if you are never able to enjoy your MBP for what it is.

Just stop so materialistic. You're only going to use it for a few years and then move on. Might as well get the full user experience. Otherwise just buy a $200 plastic netbook. Same thing.

I kind of agree with exception of the 'materialistic' comment.. Some people save for a long time so want to look after their purchase.

I have the Speck case and, when it's taken off to clean the machine, I realise what a nice looking laptop I have.. Having said that, one of the kids bumped into me and the laptop dropped to the floor. The Speck case was scratched and the macbook was good as new.. So.. I'll probably keep the case on..
 
For what it's worth, I never bothered with a case for my 2007 MBP 17" and yes it has been many places (dropped a few times) had things replaced because it wasn't in a protective case.

Now I keep that one at home for general multipurpose stuff and my UB MBP15 for work.. yes this has a speck case on it. I run alot of VM instances on it instead of using bootcamp, just makes my life much easier when I need to trash/dump an install when testing build configurations.....

Had no problems with the speck case i have on it..... if anything does happen to the case... i'll try the incase but for now.. Speck is my preference. :D
 
I am going to stop you guys are just saying the same thing over and over again without really answering my question.

But you guys are obviously materialistic. But you are also hypocrites at the same time. You boast about the build quality and then you buy cases for it. And you use fancy words like protecting investment, preserving integrity. What kind of nonsense is that?

I can only recommend a cheap HP Pavilion with a nice bulletproof case for you guys. Don't see the point otherwise to get a macbook. And for your information. I dont use a case for my macbook and my keyboard keys look just fine after one year and I dont have any scratches at all. I have a padded messenger back and I just throw it in there whenever I need to transport it.

People just need to change their mindset and get over that materialistic consumerism and insecurity. Its just not worth it. Just buy it and use it. And buy a new one later down the road.

How about you drag your MacBook on the floor instead of putting it in your padded messenger bag? Oh yeah, you wanna protect it while travelling. Well guess what? A case does the same thing.

A case goes on the bottom of the MacBook which either sits on the desk or on your lap, and the other part of the case goes on the top. Now I'm not sure how you use your MacBook but I, like most people tend to have it open on my knee so the only bit I'm really touching is the keyboard and trackpad area. How is that missing out on the experience? I seldom touch the aluminium bottom or lid anyway!

And really, what business is it of yours what other people do with their things? Is a person materialistic for installing a burglar alarm in their house to protect their possessions? No, I thought not. This is ridiculous.
 
I am going to stop you guys are just saying the same thing over and over again without really answering my question.

But you guys are obviously materialistic. But you are also hypocrites at the same time. You boast about the build quality and then you buy cases for it. And you use fancy words like protecting investment, preserving integrity. What kind of nonsense is that?

I can only recommend a cheap HP Pavilion with a nice bulletproof case for you guys. Don't see the point otherwise to get a macbook. And for your information. I dont use a case for my macbook and my keyboard keys look just fine after one year and I dont have any scratches at all. I have a padded messenger back and I just throw it in there whenever I need to transport it.

People just need to change their mindset and get over that materialistic consumerism and insecurity. Its just not worth it. Just buy it and use it. And buy a new one later down the road.

Why has these arrogant troll not been blocked by know?
 
Why has these arrogant troll not been blocked by know?

Hey buddy. I have been a mac user longer than you have and I have been on these forums before you were even born. You might want to show some more respect to the older forum members. You are no position to make demands like that. Now thats arrogance. Who do you think you are, seriously?

I just said its pointless to use a case on a macbook. It defeats the entire purpose. You will never enjoy it for what it is. I just recommend everyone to try it. Its hard at first but once you go case-less, you'll never go back.
 
Hey buddy. I have been a mac user longer than you have and I have been on these forums before you were even born. You might want to show some more respect to the older forum members. You are no position to make demands like that. Now thats arrogance. Who do you think you are, seriously?

I've been a Mac user and a member of these forums even longer than you and I say that you're acting like a Grade-A jackass.

So...who do YOU think you are spreading your male bovine excrement around this thread?
 
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