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shk718

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this article says there is speculation that the app store will open tomorrow.

what do you think?

i think friday makes more sense. but if it does this raises a question - do we own anything bought on it or is it tied to the phone it was purchased for - like most computer software. so if i buy something and then get a new iphone will i be able to transfer it over to it? i think it will be treated like music purchased on itunes and i will own it not my device.


http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/07/here-comes-the-iphone-app-store/
 
shk718 said:
this article says there is speculation that the app store will open tomorrow.

what do you think?

i think friday makes more sense. but if it does this raises a question - do we own anything bought on it or is it tied to the phone it was purchased for - like most computer software. so if i buy something and then get a new iphone will i be able to transfer it over to it? i think it will be treated like music purchased on itunes and i will own it not my device.


http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/07/here-comes-the-iphone-app-store/
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Tied to your iTunes account - not a particular phone.

There's no way they'll open it tomorrow.
 
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I can see it launching for the beta testers/devs to play with. They already have 2.0 and iTunes 7.7.
 
I doubt it will be online until Thursday night/Friday. It will definitely not be open for business until then, since today at noon PDT is the deadline to submit apps with the possibility of being included on launch day, and the turnaround time for reviewing apps is 2-3 days.
 
as I said in another thread, I very highly doubt it'll be up until Friday morning. The leaked AT&T memo instructs the AT&T people to put the demo units out Thurday night after closing, but not to download any apps until the following morning. Why would they make them wait and be more in a time crunch to get the software up and running on the phones when they could do it the night before? Only real reason this could be is because it won't be up the night before


Of course, this now comes into question due to New Zealand having a store doing a midnight launch... assuming they're able to go through with that launch and don't get scolded by Apple, the store would have to be up for them
 
elbirth said:
Of course, this now comes into question due to New Zealand having a store doing a midnight launch... assuming they're able to go through with that launch and don't get scolded by Apple, the store would have to be up for them
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Each region will most likely have its own version of the store that can be opened independently of the rest. So it could be online for NZ without being available to the rest of the world.
 
a leaked AT&T memo said that iphone 3g displays will be available from tomorrow (tuesday), and all features, including the store, will function
 
shk718 said:
i think friday makes more sense. but if it does this raises a question - do we own anything bought on it or is it tied to the phone it was purchased for - like most computer software. so if i buy something and then get a new iphone will i be able to transfer it over to it? i think it will be treated like music purchased on itunes and i will own it not my device.
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It has to be like music (only you can download as many times as you want). It's just too easy to delete it off the iPhone (ex. Sure, if you buy it on the computer, there's really no excuse...but what about on the iPhone itself? You can't delete music on the iPhone directly. However to delete an app, all you have to do is tap and hold, then tap the x and tap uninstall. I can see a few people accidentally trying to delete a web app and accidentally delete an app [kinda like how on Windows Vista, most people just click allow without reading])
 
I think it makes sense to release the firmware update/app store before the 11th so that iTunes does not crash with all the activations and people downloading firmware all at once.
 
admanimal said:
Each region will most likely have its own version of the store that can be opened independently of the rest. So it could be online for NZ without being available to the rest of the world.
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that seems like it would be a lot of trouble to open the store based on region. all of the apps will be in all the "stores" anyway, so it's not like you'll only see apps from developers in your country
 
It has to be like music (only you can download as many times as you want). It's just too easy to delete it off the iPhone (ex. Sure, if you buy it on the computer, there's really no excuse...but what about on the iPhone itself? You can't delete music on the iPhone directly. However to delete an app, all you have to do is tap and hold, then tap the x and tap uninstall. I can see a few people accidentally trying to delete a web app and accidentally delete an app [kinda like how on Windows Vista, most people just click allow without reading])
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afaik apps sync to and from the computer, so if theyre on the phone, theyre on the computer

You couldn't be bothered to read the memo but could be bothered to comment on it? Way to go.
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this thread is about the app store, not at&t
i just read a quote from the memo on macrumors.com
AT&T stores are due to get iPhone 3G demo units starting tomorrow:
Beginning July 8th you will receive the new iPhone 3G demo devices at your store to enhance your sales process. These devices will be used the same as your 2G demo devices in your sales process but now you can demonstrate the additional capabilities of the iPhone 3G including the App Store
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Apple's official press release states July 11th as the date iPhone OS 2.0 launches, and the App Store is part of that.
 
elbirth said:
all of the apps will be in all the "stores" anyway, so it's not like you'll only see apps from developers in your country
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No they won't. Developers have the option of specifying the regions they want their apps to be available in. It will be just like the regular iTunes store where different regions have different content.

It would be a mess if everyone had to sort through apps that are in a language they don't even understand in order to find what they want.
 
DreamPod said:
Apple's official press release states July 11th as the date iPhone OS 2.0 launches, and the App Store is part of that.
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True, but at 5am EST on Thursday, June 10th is 12:01am June 11th in New Zeland. So...it would make sense that the App Store is up and running by then.

I wouldn't be suprised if it is up and running on Wed. sometime.
 
wildcardd said:
True, but at 5am EST on Thursday, June 10th is 12:01am June 11th in New Zeland. So...it would make sense that the App Store is up and running by then.

I wouldn't be suprised if it is up and running on Wed. sometime.
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Like I said, the store doesn't have to be available everywhere in the world at the same time. Every region does not necessarily get identical content.
 
admanimal said:
It would be a mess if everyone had to sort through apps that are in a language they don't even understand in order to find what they want.
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Actually, that's pretty much the way it's going to work. By default applications are published to all regions-- the developer has to go out of his/her way to change that.

At WWDC it was recommended publishing globally using your own language for everyone if you couldn't get the localization translation done professionally.

I know of several applications that are going out exactly like this and are already ready for sale through the App Store (whenever it opens) in all regions.

rob.
 
robhedin said:
Actually, that's pretty much the way it's going to work. By default applications are published to all regions-- the developer has to go out of his/her way to change that.

At WWDC it was recommended publishing globally using your own language for everyone if you couldn't get the localization translation done professionally.
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I wasn't aware that making them global was the recommendation for non-localized apps. I assumed that devs would only support making them available in regions that officially speak the languages they support, which is what I did with mine.
 
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