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I would love to see Apple buy Sony, not because I think it would be a good idea, but because the idea that Apple would own Sony is hilarious.
 
Your pockets.

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Actually, for the first time in over six years, I haven't bought an Apple laptop for over a year and I have my 13 or 14 months old iPhone. I am not planning to buy an iPad, I had one for a trial and that was enough. I've had Airs and I went through a bunch of unibodies (I still have two of them) with eMacs and a C2D white plastic wonder in the past. I even had a 12" PowerBook. Altogether, between my girlfriend and myself, we must have spent over $20.000 on Apple hardware in the last six years. It's not a lot, considering that most of this was recovered when sold or it was tax-deductible to start with.

So ironically, when I spent my money on Apple, their share price was below $100. Now that they haven't got anything that I would need or want, their shares are around $300. It's not (just) that I am an elitist **** or that I like opposing things - I simply see less and less appeal in buying Apple stuff, whereas more and more people jump on the bandwagon. When these people will get bored and jump off, there will be problems.
 
I can just imagine an interview with Steve Jobs over this story.

Reporter: Have you heard of this rumor about Sony

Steve: Yup

Reporter: any truth to the rumor.

Steve: Nope

Thus the interview ends.

Some where there is a trader that started this rumor to get a trempory up swing in the value of Sony stock so he could make some money.:p

Dammit im busted :D

my brain just exploded. Sony + Apple = Sapple? Apony? :apple:

Just think of all those happy fathers who promised their daughters a pony for xmas :D
 
The more people that can use it the more money it will make. The Uk is one of the worst countries in terms of broadband speeds. I think 2 meg is the average a survey found. Even people on fast connection suffer from massive speed drops at peak times. Streaming is hardly ideal at the moment with 720p content let alone full HD.

I have no hard numbers, but my friends in the UK (midlands) have no such issues and fast+reliable+cheap internet access via cable or DSL.

Either way, you don't really think that a respected industrialized country with any interest in the future couldn't increase their bandwidth like the rest of the world does? You guys seem to forget that like any infrastructure a fast internet connection doesn't have to reach 100% of all people. Do fast roads reach everyone? Do airports? Mobile phones? It is perfectly enough if 80-90% have fast internet access to make the cloud work, and that's certainly doable if not already the case.
 
Why not?

Steve has always had a huge admiration for Sony. Just think of the huge design and manufacturing resources they must have. Do they still own a major movie company too? If you got big cash lying around why not?
 
Even if they did I doubt if it would make it to the UK for years. They would have more than enough problems with licensing issues just to crack the US market.

Unless you are suggesting Apple become a studio and produce their own TV content?

I am not sure.

I suspect distribution and not production is where the money is to be made.

The UK spends more on Sky than they do on bread. But Sky makes very little content (apart from Sport). If we combine a smarter advertising model in the mix - I think there is the possibility of a radical shake up in TV.

C.
 
Lots of interesting speculation about who they should buy, but there is one option that I haven't seen: themselves. Why not buy back all shares and go private?

That would be ultimate ego move for Jobs.But I don't see how they have nearly enough money to do that though as Apple's market cap is $280B and with a control premium, that cost would be well north of $300B. Since the cash won't buy that back, I can't see anyone lending the management of Apple $250B to do this buyout. Frankly no leverage buyout of that scope has ever been done. It would be hard for even the biggest banks to actually pull together that kind of money.
 
I actually like Sony, they are, in my eyes, the only other company capable of making decent computers along side Lenovo and Apple.
 
I would respectfully beg to differ.

C.

Well, of course, I should say I'm referring to the higher end machines. A 400 dollar laptop will feel like a 400 dollar laptop no matter who makes it. In any case, I still find ThinkPads to be the best built computers, even though they aren't fully aluminum. The main argument I hear against them is that they are ugly, I actually like their utilitarian design.
 
Market cap 33.9 billion,one tenth the size of apple.Apple could buy sony and have 16 billion left in the bank.

I'm afraid that's not how it works.

there is nothing to buy. dell just puts parts together like my 3 year old does with blocks

At least they manufacture their own computers. Besides, the market thinks that the company is worth close to $30 billion. Not bad for doing what your kid could do. Maybe you should launch the kid on the stock market or take advantage of his/her abilities.
 
I have no hard numbers, but my friends in the UK (midlands) have no such issues and fast+reliable+cheap internet access via cable or DSL.

Either way, you don't really think that a respected industrialized country with any interest in the future couldn't increase their bandwidth like the rest of the world does? You guys seem to forget that like any infrastructure a fast internet connection doesn't have to reach 100% of all people. Do fast roads reach everyone? Do airports? Mobile phones? It is perfectly enough if 80-90% have fast internet access to make the cloud work, and that's certainly doable if not already the case.

We are trying to increase capacity and infrastructure but these things don't happen overnight. Plus its as much about data caps as speed. Im on a 24 meg connection but capped at 50 GBs download for the month. Youtube, media rich internet sites, music/video streaming, downloads, Steam, online gaming, it sure eats into my bandwith and i live on my own. Increased contention doesn't help. Families are worse off.
 
I am not sure.

I suspect distribution and not production is where the money is to be made.

The UK spends more on Sky than they do on bread. But Sky makes very little content (apart from Sport). If we combine a smarter advertising model in the mix - I think there is the possibility of a radical shake up in TV.

C.

Getting exclusive rights to Premier League football at exactly the right time is what enabled Sky to get where they are today. Take away their sport exclusives and Sky wouldn't be a major force.
 
Xbox live had revenues of 1 Billion dollars last year, and the console has the highest attach rate of any of the current gen. Xbox certainly makes money.


http://www.microsoft.com/investor/reports/ar10/10k_fr_dis.html
MSFT Annual Report 2010

Check out the section 'Entertainment and Devices Division' (=the Xbox)

Revenue is shrinking/flat since 2008.
Profit margins are tiny. (combined profit of $1.2B over three years with a revenue of nearly $25B) Apple makes more profit with one quarter of iPhones.

The last two quarters actually generated a loss of $300 million. They only seem to be able to make any sort of noticable profits in the holiday quarter.

Gaming consoles are a bag of hurt. Period.
 
Sony needs to be saved, and Apple can save them.
They make alot of good hardware and software. The XMB media bar in PS3 is surely heavily inspired by Apple, but with it´s simplicity, it is even better at some points like usability and simplicity.

I´m neither a fan of Apple or Sony, but many of their products. I think ten years ago, Sony was what Apple is today. Before I had the original Walkman, the Playstation, the Discman, and even TVs. But now they have lost their soul. Now I have Macbook, iPod and iPhone, and I look to Apple for hardware, the same way I looked to Sony in the past.

The PS3 is a major screw up. You can deny it all you want, but it is. Apple is THE company that could keep all the best of Sonys innovation, and remove the badness, and add some original Apple flavor to their products.

Just imagine an "Apple Playstation 4".
 
Sony does not know how to do it either.
It is having all its TVs made by Sharp, Samsung & LG

C.

I don't think so these day's, panels maybe but not the whole TV, the same as Apple does not make it's own panels. It's the video processors that are the manufacturers own. But I don't think Apple even makes those?

I'd love to know the reasoning behind people voting this as negative.

So many haters on this forum.

No, too many blind Apple fanboy's on here. If Apple buy Sony it's the worst thing ever, the gaming community will backlash for one because the majority don't see Apple as having a clue about the games industry, me included. It'll over charge for under powered devices that have no innovation. Complete opposite to the PS3.
As to the online argument, sigh, the world still cannot support this because it's the same old argument, the infrastructure isn't there yet. That's where they are heading, but it isn't there and I also think the majority of consumers still like to own a product then rent it. Despite what Apple thinks, and how are you going to stream a 3D film? How are you going to stream a programme in the new ultra high def resolutions? The BB speed is not there.
 
Actually, for the first time in over six years, I haven't bought an Apple laptop for over a year and I have my 13 or 14 months old iPhone. I am not planning to buy an iPad, I had one for a trial and that was enough. I've had Airs and I went through a bunch of unibodies (I still have two of them) with eMacs and a C2D white plastic wonder in the past. I even had a 12" PowerBook. Altogether, between my girlfriend and myself, we must have spent over $20.000 on Apple hardware in the last six years. It's not a lot, considering that most of this was recovered when sold or it was tax-deductible to start with.

So ironically, when I spent my money on Apple, their share price was below $100. Now that they haven't got anything that I would need or want, their shares are around $300. It's not (just) that I am an elitist **** or that I like opposing things - I simply see less and less appeal in buying Apple stuff, whereas more and more people jump on the bandwagon. When these people will get bored and jump off, there will be problems.

Same here. I've gone through every form factor, minis, unibodies, Mac Pro 8-cores, etc., 1000's of dollars spent. This lineup is great, but nothing really excites me. Although it is about time to get something new, with this white MB dying on me...
 
Getting exclusive rights to Premier League football at exactly the right time is what enabled Sky to get where they are today. Take away their sport exclusives and Sky wouldn't be a major force.

Not entirely sure how Murdoch ended up with a virtual monopoly on sports broadcasting in the UK.

Fortunately I don't possess any sports genes.

C.
 
Actually, for the first time in over six years, I haven't bought an Apple laptop for over a year and I have my 13 or 14 months old iPhone. I am not planning to buy an iPad, I had one for a trial and that was enough. I've had Airs and I went through a bunch of unibodies (I still have two of them) with eMacs and a C2D white plastic wonder in the past. I even had a 12" PowerBook. Altogether, between my girlfriend and myself, we must have spent over $20.000 on Apple hardware in the last six years. It's not a lot, considering that most of this was recovered when sold or it was tax-deductible to start with.

So ironically, when I spent my money on Apple, their share price was below $100. Now that they haven't got anything that I would need or want, their shares are around $300. It's not (just) that I am an elitist **** or that I like opposing things - I simply see less and less appeal in buying Apple stuff, whereas more and more people jump on the bandwagon. When these people will get bored and jump off, there will be problems.

To be honest, I have found that a lot of the older Apple users (i.e. before Leopard) have slowly been losing interest in Apple products.

On a side note, I also see that it's mostly the new bandwagon jumpers that keep spewing the stupid crap in the forums like "buy Micro$oft and shut it down1!!111" "buy out dell and close that dumb company!" Guarantee these will be the same people that instantly jump ship the second the next "it" thing comes out.
 
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