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Glad to see some competition. Sadly switched from Spotify to Apple Music years ago. Too hard to switch services again. Half my albums ended up as playlists…

Spotify did have much better playlists than Apple Music. Also the discovery algorithms seemed smarter.
 
Wow surprised they don't charge extra for it. On the other hand, they just increased the general price.

The main reason I still use Spotify is Spotify Connect, which works well with my Echo devices or in general. I like how you can open the app on one device to control the music on another device or easily pick another device you want to play from.

Last time I tried this on Apple Music, I only got a "you already seem to play music from another device" pop up
 
Spotify yet again shows why it is inferior to Apple Music.
try to use apple music lossless on airplay 2 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 but spotify connect supports lossless streaming
 

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So glad I left Spotify after they funded Rogan to the tune of $300M+ and all he stands for and has platformed.

Apple music quality for corded audiophile gear is truly superb. Only major issue is the dusty Apple Music-and-macOS app experience needs to natively fix its bitrate and sampling output to match the actual hires music. (Until then we'll keep using the open source app LosslessSwitcher which partially helps: https://github.com/vincentneo/LosslessSwitcher/discussions )
 
I've really come to love YouTube Music ... admittedly largely because it's included in something I want and pay for anyways (YT Premium).

I'm still a music buyer whenever able, so YTM is a great complement as it's unmatched for music discovery and research. One can find basically everything in some quality or another. Sometimes the killer feature is just "having everything".
Couldn’t agree more.
 
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I've really come to love YouTube Music ... admittedly largely because it's included in something I want and pay for anyways (YT Premium).

I'm still a music buyer whenever able, so YTM is a great complement as it's unmatched for music discovery and research. One can find basically everything in some quality or another. Sometimes the killer feature is just "having everything".
Same here. Although the UI is somehow worse than AM (no idea how they managed to do that), for my taste, I find YTM offers better ‘next song’ suggestions, maybe because it has all the data from YouTube that I used to listen to a lot years ago, before Spotify was even a thing.
 
I’ve used both Apple Music and Spotify and cannot tell the difference even if I use the highest quality lossy files over the ‘quality’ settings.

I think it’s because I like so many others now listen to music on the go (via my APP2) in noisy surroundings.

I remember when I listened to music always sitting down and on good quality speakers.

It must suck for artists & producers who care about music quality that modt people are like me - or even worse..,

They might be one of those people who listen to music on their smartphone speakers on public transport!

But hey it’s great that Spotify has done this for the very few people who care about this.

And if you do, why not buy vinyl and a great sound system?
 
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Umm ... You've been following Tim Cooks behaviors lately, right?

(I agree with you about the Spotify Rogan part ... but there is nobody who is clean here)
It's not about purity, but about harm reduction, who does the least harm... tech needs a similar code to the medical code: first, do no harm. The reality is that's not alway possible, but it's pretty clear seeing those who overtly cause harm near term and long term in profound ways for some short term gain. The difference between Cook and Rogan is somewhere like 10,000x difference, not even really comparable.
 
Many, many years too late for me. I've been using Qobuz and my local FLAC library coupled with Roon and will not be going back to Spotify. I'm quite happy with my setup.
 
It's very odd you'd be urging people to go back 40 years in time.
I get where you’re coming from.... however I don’t see it as going back in time....cds and LPs still have value today. For a lot of GenZ, vinyl is actually a really fun merch item and a way to feel more connected to the artists they support. Cds are still useful too....and many often say you actually own the music, with no DRM, and can rip or back it up however you like.

For me, it’s less about nostalgia and more about the idea of possessing the things I buy rather than just renting them. Streaming is convenient, but I like knowing that what I paid for will always be there. Just my perspective, and I encourage others to think about it too.
 
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A bit too late for many. I used Spotify for 10 years, I think. As they had no lossless, I move to Tidal and Apple Music. Tested for 1 year. Now I only have Apple Music and do not need Spotify. I think many people went through the same journey.
 
Atmos obviously has the potential to be amazing as we’ve seen in movies and TV shows, but I feel like for music it isn’t fully there yet. Most music production first happens in stereo since that’s how the song is mostly being played (stereo systems, headphones, car speakers). Then, producers try to take that track and mix it in Atmos for services like Apple Music. However, music is much harder to mix in Atmos versus movies because there are so many elements playing at the same time, whereas that isn’t the case in movies (mostly dialogue or singular sound effects). Additionally, since the population that’s listening to Atmos tracks is relatively low, Atmos production isn’t a huge focus point, especially for artists with a lower budget. The result is an Atmos track that’s technically great, but isn’t perfectly mixed (Example: Betty by AJR, released July 2025, piano part at 2 minutes is too quiet, immediately goes back into loud chorus).

sorry for the yap
I completely agree, Dolby atmos on anything but music is golden. It’s mean for studio recording focused like we all know but it’s unrealistic considering that when we see bands live they come from the front of the arena either way.

I always disable atmos on music but keep it on for movies and tv shows. I choose hi res lossless all day everyday
 
I was fully in the “I can’t hear the difference” camp, until I did a trial on Qobuz. I’ve tried all the lossless streaming services, but the fidelity on Qobuz just hits different, especially on my car’s Bose system. I’d drop my Apple Music subscription if my family wouldn’t revolt against me. I’m still out to lunch on spatial audio.
 
Why?

Please tell me you don't think one (or any) of the streaming options are some white knight here.
Oh, I dont like their practices. Also, they pay the artists really, really bad.
Apple Music (which I use) is better, but not by a lot. There are services that pay a lot better, like Tidal and Qobuz.

I say this as a Swede, I have no pride in Spotify whatsoever.
 
So lossless, but not hi-res. Better than nothing, but I hope they eventually offer hi-res.

I’ve been a Qobuz-user for years, but I do like Spotify’s larger catalog. Apple Music is a no-go for me, since I mostly listen on a Mac, and Apple Music’s Mac app sucks and lacks Apple Classical.

I don’t know if I’ll subscribe to Spotify, but I’m more tempted than ever before.
 
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