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You can [sign up] on their website though, but it is currently down, so it is technically still true that you don't need Facebook.

spotify.com is up, but tapping "Sign Up" (using iOS Safari) takes me to "not available in your country", but lists as available in USA.
 
It's good to see the iPad version of Spotify, but I still can't get into it. I'm an Rdio subscriber, and despite them having a smaller catalog, I find their desktop and iOS apps to be far superior to their Spotify counterparts.
 
99% of all music?? Really? Really???! :rolleyes:

Yes. This is the only problem I have with Spotify. I listen to a lot of House, Techno etc and a lot of Music I listen to simply is not on Spotify. If it was, I'd definitely pay the £10 for it. Thats no fault of Spotify's, they simply must not be able to get everything everyone wants. I'm sure in the future more record companies will jump onboard, even the smaller ones. :)
 
In what way is it awful / specious? You need to at least give SOME support to your claim, you know? :) I'd say it's an extremely apt comparison, but would be willing to listen to arguments to the contrary.

I'm pretty sure I addressed some of that when I mentioned the differences between common music listening and tv viewing practices. Obviously that could greatly be expanded upon but my post was running long as is. Simply put, aside from being similar sensory driven artforms, there is a big difference in consumption between the two.

If you have issue with why I said that the other comparisons like gym membership, car leasing, etc. were bad comparisons then I don't know what to tell you. I think that's pretty obvious. Aside from the "paying for temporary use of something in lieu of ownership" part of it, there's practically nothing in common with any of those. Just because they all happen to fall under the extremely large blanket of "subscription/renting" doesn't mean they're necessarily relatable in terms of this argument.
 
Question

I don't have a lot of music but this appeals to me. Does the service download the song/album to your device or does it stream therefore using data?
 
I don't have a lot of music but this appeals to me. Does the service download the song/album to your device or does it stream therefore using data?

You can tell it to cache a specific playlist offline (or any number of playlists), and the music in that playlist will be downloaded using whatever data connection is available at that time (including Wi-Fi).

It's entirely possibly to cache music over Wi-Fi (up to 3333 tracks on up to three devices) and listen to it offline without ever using your cellular data allowance.
 
I'm pretty sure I addressed some of that when I mentioned the differences between common music listening and tv viewing practices. Obviously that could greatly be expanded upon but my post was running long as is. Simply put, aside from being similar sensory driven artforms, there is a big difference in consumption between the two.

If you have issue with why I said that the other comparisons like gym membership, car leasing, etc. were bad comparisons then I don't know what to tell you. I think that's pretty obvious. Aside from the "paying for temporary use of something in lieu of ownership" part of it, there's practically nothing in common with any of those. Just because they all happen to fall under the extremely large blanket of "subscription/renting" doesn't mean they're necessarily relatable in terms of this argument.

You've still said nothing supporting your claim that "rental" does not work for those different listening / consumption habits.

You're making two claims, one of which is true and well supported, and one of which is not supported in any way, then trying to apply your first claim to an instance where the second claim is the one in question:

Claim #1 (Not in question): Music consumption is different from TV / video consumption
Claim #2 (In question): Rental won't work to support those different consumption patterns

Fallacious argument, based on the unsupported claim #2: Rental programs for music are fundamentally different than other rental programs, because of these differing consumption habits.
 
did their site get hacked or something? all it shows me is some green monsters saying "will sing for money"

that cant be their official down page can it? sounds anti spotify
 
did their site get hacked or something? all it shows me is some green monsters saying "will sing for money"

that cant be their official down page can it? sounds anti spotify

Try refreshing it. They put that up while they were updating the site for the iPad app launch.
 
As for opening fake Facebook accounts, what do you do when Facebook deletes your account for breaking their Terms of Use by opening a fake account?

never happens, i have 2 fake accounts, one for playing games and another one to stalk people.
 
Good grief people, can't we respect that some people prefer to buy music, while others rather rent it, and still others prefer ad-driven? without getting caught up in bickering over the exact applicability of self-justifying anecdotes & analogies?
 
Only £9.99/$9.99



Spotify supports Offline playback on all platforms it has Apps for (Windows, Linux, Mac OS X, iOS, Android, Web OS, Blackberry, Windows Phone 7, Windows Mobile 6, Symbian)



320kbps Ogg Vorbis tracks

The iTunes Store is lower quality than that.

Looks like someone should do a little research!

I did do some research, albeit quite a while ago. My information is rather outdated it seems!

Thanks for the updated info anyway. Suddenly it seems more appealing.

The only downside is lack of airplay, and no way to play the tracks to other devices without the app? Or is there some sort of workaround for that? As at the moment I basically stream songs from iTunes or Match.
 
You've still said nothing supporting your claim that "rental" does not work for those different listening / consumption habits.

You're making two claims, one of which is true and well supported, and one of which is not supported in any way, then trying to apply your first claim to an instance where the second claim is the one in question:

Claim #1 (Not in question): Music consumption is different from TV / video consumption
Claim #2 (In question): Rental won't work to support those different consumption patterns

Fallacious argument, based on the unsupported claim #2: Rental programs for music are fundamentally different than other rental programs, because of these differing consumption habits.

No where have I ever said it won't work. Where are you getting that from? I specifically said in my first post that I both use Spotify and download services.

There's a strong sentiment in this argument that these streaming services are destined to crush the pay-per-download model down the road. And a lot of the argument uses absurd comparisons to other subscriptions services. Because there are so many vast differences in the consumption of these other products (as you agreed), basing your entire argument on their comparison is flawed. Just because A works with X, doesn't necessarily mean B will in the same manner. You can certainly compare them in some regards, but their differences alone dictate that using that alone is short sighted.

I never said it won't work. It's already proving that it can. Just to what level and why is what needs to be seen next.
 
Apparently it does support Airplay, but I've never tried it.

It doesnt matter anyway, Spotify are missing half of my library.

Edit: Just realised you can add songs manually. I am an idiot.

Side note, why are AC/DC so scared of the digital age?
 
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Yes. This is the only problem I have with Spotify. I listen to a lot of House, Techno etc and a lot of Music I listen to simply is not on Spotify. If it was, I'd definitely pay the £10 for it. Thats no fault of Spotify's, they simply must not be able to get everything everyone wants. I'm sure in the future more record companies will jump onboard, even the smaller ones. :)

exactly, same problem here

while they have some stuff, I usually stick to Discogs and Youtube for most of my listening
 
There is Airplay, I use it every day. Works better though streaming to Apple TV -> Pioneer AVR than directly to the VSX 1021 (sometimes interruptions).

I'm guessing its only enabled on iOS devices though? Can't seem to find it on the desktop app.
 
All you suckers that pay for music kill me. You can listen to music for free on the radio or if you use iTunes, you can use the internet radio stations and it's free. FREE. No pay. FREE.

You people kill me. Pay to listen to music! :)
 
All you suckers that pay for music kill me. You can listen to music for free on the radio or if you use iTunes, you can use the internet radio stations and it's free. FREE. No pay. FREE.

You people kill me. Pay to listen to music! :)

Right, because listening to a random selection of songs is in any way comparable to listening to stuff on-demand. And we're the suckers. :rolleyes:
 
Or you could spend $9.99 on an album of an artist you like and add it to your collection permanently.

Because 90% of the time, I'll like maybe 2-3 songs on that entire album. Also, I could buy those songs I wanted from Spotify or iTunes for 99p each and own them forever too.
 
It doesn't require one to work, it works perfectly well without one.

However if you have one, you can use it to sign up more easily and share playlists & tracks with friends if you want. This can easily be switched off if you're not interested though.

And relax.

If it does, I couldn't figure it out

Seems like it is required if you didn't already have a spotify account

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Yeah, its a bit of a limiting factor as a lot of the social aspects of the application are purely linked in to Facebook, but Facebook is not mandatory for Spotify.

I use Spotify about 40-50hrs a week, majority in work, got it running pretty much all day in the office.

£9.99 for that is a frickin bargain. Its allowed me to discover multiple new artists (new to me that is, majority of them being older artists) and the playlists updating so that I get the same playlists on multiple machines is superb as well.

It is missing some music, but the fact that my starred playlist is about 200-300 songs and I've still not got all my favourites in there speaks volumes.

Looking forward to getting the iPad app.

How is this better than say grooveshark which does not need a subscription for mobile or desktop?

What does it offer?
 
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