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Anything negative against Sprint is against the rules on the site. You get instabanned. Anything positive about another carrier is against the rules too. Pretty pathetic. The people on that site are on par with the delusional folks who comment on articles on TMonews.com

Notice how no other carrier has a fanbase that maintains a website to track how slowly LTE rollout is going ;):p
Yeah, LOL. I was looking for something else today and came across a post by one of the resident "experts" over there (AJ). He made the statement that he was STRONGLY OPPOSED to unlimited data! Because it leads to abuse and so on…

That's another argument (the definition of "unlimited") but I bring this up to make an entirely different point. For all the experts in RF and cellular and everything else wireless over there it seems (to me) to be a brood of Luddites who would be very, very happy for wireless technology to revert back to smoke signals.

They all seem to favour extreme restrictions on the wireless user. I don't understand why they are even there.

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Wouldn't surprise me at all if Tmo catches or even passes Sprint in the LTE rollout by the end of this year. Tmo is lighting up the metro areas first as it's supposed to be while Sprint just announced Dunn, NC as a completed LTE market. Dunn, NC? Population is less than 10,000.

Meanwhile here in Charlotte T-Mobile LTE isn't even officially announced as live yet and the coverage is already about the same as Sprint even though it took Sprint almost a year to get it to the "complete" level.
I think that's the big fear of the regulars over at s4gru.com. They have lots of excuses as to why Sprint is slow in this rollout and how that's just fine and dandy and how Sprint will dominate the world with it's LTE when all is said and done (whenever that is). But I agree that T-Mobile could pass Sprint.

The problem with all the excuses over at that site and the BAW forums is that no one stops to realize that the consumer doesn't care what the network uses or is called. 3.5G, LTE, WiMax, HSPA+, whatever. The only thing they care about is that it's fast enough for them to do what they want. And on Sprint, except for certain areas right now, it's not. So they may be right about how much better Sprint will be at the end, but you know what, customers on other networks are getting speed NOW. When later happens, people will deal with later. But later isn't here yet…
 
While I agree the consumers care about what they get now vs the future, I still think Sprint has a bright future if they do it right. You can call them whatever you want but they do have valuable information that no other carriers have and it's useful to make decisions on whether to stay and wait or go somewhere else.
 
While I agree the consumers care about what they get now vs the future, I still think Sprint has a bright future if they do it right.
I don't deny Sprint's future with LTE. I just have a problem with the here and now non-implementation of it.

You can call them whatever you want but they do have valuable information that no other carriers have and it's useful to make decisions on whether to stay and wait or go somewhere else.
Are you referring to s4gru.com? If so, then yes. That's where I get most of my info. I don't argue the validity of s4gru's data. I just don't care for the forum culture over there. Consequently, I am not a member even though I am a frequent guest/visitor.
 
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While I agree the consumers care about what they get now vs the future, I still think Sprint has a bright future if they do it right. You can call them whatever you want but they do have valuable information that no other carriers have and it's useful to make decisions on whether to stay and wait or go somewhere else.

I'd rather not have any information at all, then get constant updates about how every LTE deployment in the US is constantly getting delayed due to Sprint's incompetence.
 
That's crazy. I overlooked PHX, but that is just ridiculous.



Anything negative against Sprint is against the rules on the site. You get instabanned. Anything positive about another carrier is against the rules too. Pretty pathetic. The people on that site are on par with the delusional folks who comment on articles on TMonews.com

Notice how no other carrier has a fanbase that maintains a website to track how slowly LTE rollout is going ;):p

Yeah, I got into an argument with the site owner (i believe) and even after showing him many sources of tests showing how Verizon and AT&T both have better coverage and faster data, he would still come up with thousands of excuses of why Sprint will be better in the future and is no worse than AT&T and Verizon coverage right now.
 
Yeah, I got into an argument with the site owner (i believe) and even after showing him many sources of tests showing how Verizon and AT&T both have better coverage and faster data, he would still come up with thousands of excuses of why Sprint will be better in the future and is no worse than AT&T and Verizon coverage right now.
I'm a Sprint customer, but both Robert and AJ over there at s4gru.com represent part of Sprint's problem I believe. Content to let things just be while at the same time saying that things are changing and that they will be better. That's the same line that Sprint has repeated for years. And nothing ever changes.

The kicker is (at least in AJ's case) that if you took away LTE and unlimited data and gave those guys limited minutes on 3G it seems like they'd be absolutely thrilled with the idea. Again, I don't get why they are in tech (supposedly) if they seem to be happy just staying right where they are with nothing ever changing,

From their rules: Negative comments. Negative comments about Sprint and/or S4GRU are allowed. However, negative comments must be constructive in nature, relevant to the topic and the conversation, illustrate facts, be made rationally and intelligently and cannot have an attack tone. Rants will not be allowed. We do not host Sprint's complaints. Complaints about Sprint should be directed to their customer service channels.

Essentially, you cannot be negative (defined by us) unless it's within these very narrow restrictions. Oh and pointing out Sprint's faults while using the truth and facts is complaining and negative. Sprint is wonderful and never does anything wrong -ever.

His site, his rules. But I don't have to register and I don't have to donate. I was glad to see however that he was forced (as he described it) to take down his Facebook and Google+ pages. Too many "complaints." :)
 
I'd rather not have any information at all, then get constant updates about how every LTE deployment in the US is constantly getting delayed due to Sprint's incompetence.

You need to accept that not everyone thinks the same way you do. I rather have to information (even about delays and Sprints incompetence) than no information about the future of a network that I will be paying thousands of dollars too.
 
I'm a Sprint customer, but both Robert and AJ over there at s4gru.com represent part of Sprint's problem I believe. Content to let things just be while at the same time saying that things are changing and that they will be better. That's the same line that Sprint has repeated for years. And nothing ever changes.

The kicker is (at least in AJ's case) that if you took away LTE and unlimited data and gave those guys limited minutes on 3G it seems like they'd be absolutely thrilled with the idea. Again, I don't get why they are in tech (supposedly) if they seem to be happy just staying right where they are with nothing ever changing,

From their rules: Negative comments. Negative comments about Sprint and/or S4GRU are allowed. However, negative comments must be constructive in nature, relevant to the topic and the conversation, illustrate facts, be made rationally and intelligently and cannot have an attack tone. Rants will not be allowed. We do not host Sprint's complaints. Complaints about Sprint should be directed to their customer service channels.

Essentially, you cannot be negative (defined by us) unless it's within these very narrow restrictions. Oh and pointing out Sprint's faults while using the truth and facts is complaining and negative. Sprint is wonderful and never does anything wrong -ever.

His site, his rules. But I don't have to register and I don't have to donate. I was glad to see however that he was forced (as he described it) to take down his Facebook and Google+ pages. Too many "complaints." :)

I am a sprint customer as well and honestly, they are changing for the better. I noticed their service getting better as time goes by. So what they say isn't wrong. But like you said, right now isn't too good. I don't agree with all their rules but like you said, it's his site so it's his rules. And you have a choice to not register and that's what you did.

Going back to Sprint, yes they are pathetic right now.... But they will get better and are getting better as time goes by. Hard to say that when in middle of Manhattan I currently have no 3G service but I know it's gonna get better.
 
I am a sprint customer as well and honestly, they are changing for the better. I noticed their service getting better as time goes by. So what they say isn't wrong. But like you said, right now isn't too good. I don't agree with all their rules but like you said, it's his site so it's his rules. And you have a choice to not register and that's what you did.

Going back to Sprint, yes they are pathetic right now.... But they will get better and are getting better as time goes by. Hard to say that when in middle of Manhattan I currently have no 3G service but I know it's gonna get better.
Yeah, I think I've vented my spleen on this one (s4gru). :cool:

As to Sprint, like you, I know it will get better eventually. I'm in contract until September 2014 so I am hoping it won't take them that long. But if it does, then I've got a choice to make then.
 
I will NEVER go back to Sprint ever again. Making a move to AT&T was the best thing I have EVER made. No complaints.
 
What reasons are you guys staying with sprint? And if service is really that bad im sure they will let u out of your contract.
 
Sprint is fine for me. Just as fast as Verizon and AT&T where I live... for all of you complaining that it's a little slow - some families in Africa don't even have any food or fresh water to wake up with and you're complaining you have little slower network. SMH.
 
What reasons are you guys staying with sprint? And if service is really that bad im sure they will let u out of your contract.
I stay with Sprint because of the call quality. Also, the possibility that if I move to another carrier I may be charged a deposit I can't pay. That's not an issue with Sprint as that was all settled 13 years ago.

I whine because I want Sprint to move. But I am fortunate enough that I have not experienced the dropped calls and whatnot that others have, just slow 3G. I detest having to pay Sprint to use WiFi I am already paying to use, but the WiFi is there. If I had to depend on the 3G it might be a different story.

Also, Sprint will NOT under any circumstances allow you out of your contract without ETF EXCEPT if you are in an area that Sprint does not cover.
 
Yep looks like typical Sprint speeds. The speeds I was getting on my iPhone 2G with AT&T back in 2007 were faster and that's really pathetic.

The speeds I was getting on my iPhone 4 with AT&T back in 2011 are similar to the speeds my iPhone 4S gets with Sprint in 2013.

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When I switched to Sprint, it certainly wasn't a downgrade, they both suck in my experience. However, I will say the speeds in Sprint's Network Vision areas are superb, they just seem to be nowhere near me though.
 
I stay with Sprint due to not having the financial means to switch. Of course I have been with them many, MANY years also. I can say a time or two I have complained about speeds, but overall, I do not have many issues with them. Where I live and spend my time now I have good call quality and most of the time good enough 3G speeds to do whatever I want to do. We have a few spots around town that the service will cut out, but its nothing major. Had I had the money to switch, I can say I probably would have tried another carrier, but I don't, we have a lot of lines on our plans. So I will be staying with Sprint for now.
 
The funniest thing in this entire thread are all of those defending Sprint. Gave me a laugh for the day.
 
I stay with Sprint due to not having the financial means to switch. Of course I have been with them many, MANY years also. I can say a time or two I have complained about speeds, but overall, I do not have many issues with them. Where I live and spend my time now I have good call quality and most of the time good enough 3G speeds to do whatever I want to do. We have a few spots around town that the service will cut out, but its nothing major. Had I had the money to switch, I can say I probably would have tried another carrier, but I don't, we have a lot of lines on our plans. So I will be staying with Sprint for now.

What part of NC are you in? Sprint seems to actually have usable data speeds (close to 1mbps) in many of the smaller cities in the state. They're solid in Eastern NC. It's the cities where they usually fall way short of the other 3 carriers. Charlotte, Raleigh, Greensboro, etc. their speeds are similar to T-Mobile Edge.
 
What part of NC are you in? Sprint seems to actually have usable data speeds (close to 1mbps) in many of the smaller cities in the state. They're solid in Eastern NC. It's the cities where they usually fall way short of the other 3 carriers. Charlotte, Raleigh, Greensboro, etc. their speeds are similar to T-Mobile Edge.

I live in Western NC. In Black Mountain. About 10 mins east of Asheville. Small town so yeah Im glad to get pretty good service. My Brother stays here and has an android Sprint phone and gets 4G a lot of the time, and 3G. My iPhone 4S stays on 3G most the time is is pretty usable even if not really super speedy.
 
The speeds I was getting on my iPhone 4 with AT&T back in 2011 are similar to the speeds my iPhone 4S gets with Sprint in 2013.

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When I switched to Sprint, it certainly wasn't a downgrade, they both suck in my experience. However, I will say the speeds in Sprint's Network Vision areas are superb, they just seem to be nowhere near me though.

So much has happened with AT&T since 2011. I doubt it's that slow anymore.
 
Sprint is fine for me. Just as fast as Verizon and AT&T where I live... for all of you complaining that it's a little slow - some families in Africa don't even have any food or fresh water to wake up with and you're complaining you have little slower network. SMH.
Yeah, I like your logic. Families having no food to eat in Africa is a justification for a company to take your money and not delivering their proper service. it seems you're from S4GRU.

I doubt Sprint is faster than AT&T, even AT&T's HSPA+ is faster than Sprint's LTE on average.
 
Sprint is fine for me. Just as fast as Verizon and AT&T where I live... for all of you complaining that it's a little slow - some families in Africa don't even have any food or fresh water to wake up with and you're complaining you have little slower network. SMH.

Yeah, paying $100 a month for mediocre service is just fantastic! We should be grateful for Sprint's crappy service.
 
Situational, if sprint works > the competition in your area, it's the obvious choice. Of course I don't know why anyone would actually buy a sprint phone when you can get iPhones and galaxy s3s on sprint MVNOs for half the price and the same subpar 3G/4g network.
 
Of course I don't know why anyone would actually buy a sprint phone when you can get iPhones and galaxy s3s on sprint MVNOs for half the price and the same subpar 3G/4g network.
One good reason, at least in my case. None of the MVNOs ever seem to offer anything more than the 16GB version of the iPhone.

That's a deal killer for me. I wanted and got a 64GB iPhone 5. None of the MVNOs in my area offer that.
 
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One thought too is that it seems that certain fiber providers/city inspectors are dragging their heels in getting LTE wired up - the nearest tower to my house had a bike path by a lake dug up and the fiber was installed last fall/winter. Then repaved.

Then the antennas and RRUs and cabinets were installed last February.

The tower went live about a week and a half ago.

Part of it is installations, permits, licenses, personnel, etc. Red tape.

I can point out a number of LTE installations that appear ready to go but are delayed for one reason or another.

There's one near my work that's had the gear onsite since last winter and the new cabinets are still just sitting out in the open waiting for someone to do something with them.

I've heard tell in that case it's a particular city inspector who has better things to do.
 
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LTE in the New Orleans area. Its still spotty, but I enjoy it more then my 4s I had a few weeks ago. I can't really complain my bill is $134 with tax for two iphones unlimited data. I used 5 gigs in a 10 day period lol. Thats why 4g do to you. Also they gave me a total of $400 credit within the last month to stay and upgrade etc.
 
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