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If i am not mistaken Sprint is the only provider now that does not offer simultaneous data and voice on iphones including 6 and 6+. I am not sure if anything is changing with the "s" models but this is defenitelly something to keep in mind.

They would have to support VoLTE, which I don't think they are anywhere.
 
The Sprint struggle is real. $1?? Sheesh.
Not really you have to trade in a iPhone 6 and a year from now you will return that iPhone 6s for a iPhone 7. But by then sprint just sold to slightly used iPhones for top dollar. Which is why Apple is in the lease business now. To sell and resell is very profitable.
 
If i am not mistaken Sprint is the only provider now that does not offer simultaneous data and voice on iphones including 6 and 6+. I am not sure if anything is changing with the "s" models but this is defenitelly something to keep in mind.

You are not mistaken. From an article on Fierce Wireless from May of this year:

Claure has indicated that the carrier's long-term plan is to dramatically increase its coverage and capacity, and also to deploy Voice over LTE (VoLTE) technology.

"Long-term" with Sprint has traditionally meant five or more years in the future. The full article is here.
 
Shows that everyone's profit margins and life (when it comes to carrier's) revolves around the iPhone.

But its funny its the bottom 3 battling it out as Verizon just sitting quietly and serving people with their superior coverage nationwide.
Because those people don't want to make the time to change. They just keep paying their bills and don't look into the other options. Eventually my 9 lines climbed from 300/month to $455 while not changing my plan but having to use edge to upgrade and pay for equipment, I realized there were better options. TMob with the 700 band 12 here in Houston I'm good to go for $290 a month with the same plans. Much happier.
 
AT&T and Verizon looking at Sprint and T-Mobile like "have fun with that".
So they're that desperate for customers they really are subsidizing the phone. A 16GB iPhone over 24 months is $27/mo.
 
After my first and only experience with Sprint, I will never do business with them again. Their coverage blew and when it was FINALLY time to get out of my contract, they refused to unlock my phone for T-Mobile and that forced me to stay with them for an additional month after my contract ended. I figured out how to unlock it with an R-SIM and then used domestic roaming so much that they called and told me they have to cancel my phone service. If I would have known they were going to refuse to unlock my 4S, I would have used that trick to get me out of my contract earlier. I still have my 4S unlocked and running T-Mobile as proof that they were lying their butts off to me when they told me they couldn't unlock my iPhone. It was also impossible to sell because it wasn't factory unlocked. I would sue sprint for intentionally devaluing my phone if it wouldn't cost so much time and money.
 
How is T-Mobile in the Houston Market. I use to have Sprint in the pre-iPhone days, but I can remember their plans, customer service, and coveraged sucked. By the sounds of it, they haven't improved over the last 7 years. ...and they wonder why they can't keep/get customers.
 
AT&T and Verizon looking at Sprint and T-Mobile like "have fun with that".
You know that t-mo turned a profit while adding customers to over take sprint (for 3rd place) and, at the same time, offering to pay off your ETFs or Edge or Next financing, as well as, all the other uncarrier stuff. Right?

And there isn't anything unheard of with T-Mobiles $5/$10/$15 iPhone 6 deal, when you look at it. Because it's a phone trade in. They resell the phone you trade-in for more then they bought it from you for.
 
So basically the cost of the network service is now just to assume and include the cost of the phone every year? In other words if I had my own phone fully paid off I would not be able to find a cheaper service then someone needing a carrier subsidized phone?
That is still the way 2 year contracts work.

The next and other programs in the U.S. Are still ridiculously priced vs the rest of the world.

Not really you have to trade in a iPhone 6 and a year from now you will return that iPhone 6s for a iPhone 7. But by then sprint just sold to slightly used iPhones for top dollar. Which is why Apple is in the lease business now. To sell and resell is very profitable.
Yeah except for a $1 a month... $12 a month to rent an iPhone is amazing. I would have no worries trading a used phone after spending just $12 though. This is all circumstantial and depends if all networks try to go as low as possible with plans instead of raising prices.

Btw, who would buy used sprint iPhones? Niche market. Only other sprint users since they are the only ones that can really used hem completely afaik. Idk if things have changed w the 6s though.

This pricing is just the cost of aquisition to get people to move to sprint. Cheaper than other options for them for sure.
 
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Shows that everyone's profit margins and life (when it comes to carrier's) revolves around the iPhone.

But its funny its the bottom 3 battling it out as Verizon just sitting quietly and serving people with their superior coverage nationwide.
I don't see AT&T battling to be honest.
 
So does the T-Mobile network.

T-Mobile may be faster but their coverage is the worst of the main four providers.


In a recent nation wide data coverage test T-Mobile was second only to AT&T and only barely. The failed attempt by ATT to buy it was great for T-Mobile because it gained a lot of frequency from AT&T.

Moreover, T-Mobile doesn't charge extra for text and voice roaming.
 
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Other than the sub par networks the deals coming from t mobile and sprint seem too good to be true (as an att customer). What am I missing here? Can I really get a new phone from one of these carriers for a penny a month as long as I put up with their crappy network?
 
It's hard to believe anyone else is going to try and one up this deal, but it will be interesting to see if someone does.

It'd be rather funny if John actually one up this deal. I can see him personally wanting to do it, but the group of financial adviser shaking heads behind him.
 
And is it true that they lock their phones, so they can't be unlocked?
Nope they are now unlocking phones. I recently unlocked an 5s to sell and the guy tested his tmobile sim and it worked

Yes + a Sprint ***** network.
Where i live sprint is pretty decent and besides i always on a spot where there is wifi and sprint now has wifi calling
 
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I lived on my motorcycle touring the USA for 6mo and 18k miles of travel.

During that time I had a Sprint phone and a Verizon iPad.


Surprisingly there were only 2-3 times the iPad had service and the Sprint phone didn't. But, there were a few times the phone had service and the iPad didn't.

I still carry both of them around daily around Denver, Co and the performance between them is barely noticeable. (Now an iPad Air 2 and iPhone 6 FWIW)


Every year we shop all the major carriers and have not found a better apples to apples deal than Sprint for us. The barely noticeable performance difference just isn't worth the price delta for us.

I'm on these devices while roaming around all day long. Running a business off them while taking my toddler on trips everyday.
 
So basically the cost of the network service is now just to assume and include the cost of the phone every year? In other words if I had my own phone fully paid off I would not be able to find a cheaper service then someone needing a carrier subsidized phone?
Sprint either doesn't provide any BYOD info on their website or it is really hard to find. So, for Sprint, alone, perhaps your assumption is correct.

But, otherwise, No. That is not a good assumption. In general, these are separate programs for those who do want a new phone every year. Or, just the option to jump to whatever the newest phone is. Whether it is Next, or Edge, iPhone for Life, or Jump on Demand -- they optional.

If you just want to pay for bare network service, sans any subsidy, because you own a wholly paid off cell phone, Verizon and T-Mobile, allow you to do so. Their base phone plans include no subsidy, at all.

AT&T will let you bring a phone to their network, but the carrier subsidy is still built in. AT&T will give you a discount, though. $15/mo standard. Or $25/mo if you choose the 10gb data service plan. Or in otherwords, unless you choose the 10gb data service plan, you'll still pay $5/mo for a subsidy that you don't get any benefit from.
 
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Network still sucks

Actually, it doesn't. It beats T-Mobile according to RootMetrics, and only a few percentage points below 2nd place AT&T.

In a recent nation wide data coverage test T-Mobile was second only to AT&T and only barely. The failed attempt by ATT to buy it was great for T-Mobile because it gained a lot of frequency from AT&T.

Moreover, T-Mobile doesn't charge extra for text and voice roaming.

Cite the nationwide data coverage test, please?
 
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