using aggressive force towards a store employee isn't breaking any laws? LOL Hope your lawyer agrees with that, and you have plenty of disposable income to help supplement his.
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using aggressive force towards a store employee isn't breaking any laws? LOL Hope your lawyer agrees with that, and you have plenty of disposable income to help supplement his.
Ok your blowing this out of proportion.
I have int he past gotten my iPhone without activating it in the past from the genius upon replacement. just told him I don't have my SIM with me.
re-read the quote. You are stating that they allowed you to activate the phone. The person I replied to suggesting using force to remove a phone from someone's hands. Bit of a difference there.
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Don't turn this into a legal thread. As long as you don't assault the employee and you're just removing the phone from his hands forcefully without causing bodily harm you can't be charged.
LOL you are seriously suggesting that using force against an employee in a retail store to remove a device that does not belong to you is legal? These people would be doing you a favor by swapping out a device they are not required to swap, and you are suggesting using force to take that device from them?
Seriously, do everyone else a favor and stop with the ridiculous suggestions. You cannot forcibly remove anything from anyone's hands that does not belong to you, not only does that count as assault, but also theft.
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How does a replacement device for a malfunctioning device you bought not belong to you?
Not defending anyone. Just asking a question.
The device becomes yours once the rep finalizes the transaction, and not before. When you shop at any store, nothing you are carrying around belongs to you until the item is paid for and the transaction is finalized.
Once the Genius hands you the device, and you get a receipt e-mailed to you, the device becomes yours. Until that point, the device remains the property of Apple.
He is suggesting ripping a phone out of an employees hands, and not allowing them to do their job. You tell me, if you're at work doing your job, and someone stops you halfway through forcibly, and tries to finish it for you, will you continue to help that person?
It is the stores responsibility to take care of the customer, including activating a phone replacement. If you and the rep are both okay with you completing the activation, that's fine. But forcibly removing a phone that doesn't belong to you from someone's hand while they are trying to complete their job is far from okay.
You don't have to agree with how they do their job, and that's why they have managers you can speak with. If you want to activate the phone yourself, just ask. If they refuse, ask to speak with a manager. If they also refuse, then you're SOL at that store.
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You're taking a joke so seriously it's hilarious.
Seriously, get out of this thread, we're here to discuss Sprint's ******* policies, not what's legal and what's not.
Christ dude, I have Asperger's and even I can understand a little sarcasm.
good job on pressing rewind. I would probably back track and claim a joke also if I were in your shoes. You win the internet for today.
Anyway, the simple thing to do would be to get a Genius to replace your phone with an unlocked version. Then, it doesn't make any difference what carrier they activate it with while you're in the store.
There are some stores that are giving the unlocked model as the replacement device, but locking it to whatever carrier is active at the time. Take a Verizon sim card with you, and the device would be unlocked.
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Why you catching so many feelings bro?
No Apple store will ever replace a Locked iPhone for a Unlocked one, the rumors you read were old, where some users around launch time got lucky where Apple activated a originally non-sprint model for Sprint leaving the SIM slot UNLOCKED.
They will never do that normally unless supply constraints, anyway as for taking a Verizon SIM with you, well genius, the only way your going to have that Verizon SIM work in a freshly replaced Sprint phone is if the GENIUS GUY/GIRL doesn't turn on the phone and go through the steps before you do, so you carrying your Verizon SIM in your hand = useless.
Anyway don't go sounding all right when you don't know what you are talking about because clearly you have no clue, this kind of non-sense leads to confusion and taking threads off topic and re-questioning things that have been already answered time after time.
No reply is needed by you,
lets get back to topic.
Post #1 edited to reflect the worthlessness of MSL codes. Apple does not use MSL codes.
Harrison, note that my editing of my posts in this thread has been fixed. I moved up some of the information you had in later posts that was placed there by the mods when I could not edit.
Harrison, note that my editing of my posts in this thread has been fixed. I moved up some of the information you had in later posts that was placed there by the mods when I could not edit.
i recently decided that I want to exchange my plus for a regular 6. I posted an ad on Craigslist, so my question is if I meet up with an individual that decides to exchange, do we have to contact sprint and do a phone number swap between our two phones? from experience with my mothers phone, I had to use the sprint website to transfer her number over to the 5s I gave her but that is because she previously had an iPhone 4. can I just pop in my sim into the other persons iPhone 6 and things should be good to go?
also if anyone has experience with exchanging phones, what sort of things should I be wary of? I know to check for find my iPhone to be turned off.
also if anyone has experience with exchanging phones, what sort of things should I be wary of? I know to check for find my iPhone to be turned off.
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I have never done this. But the general MR advice for a buyer seems to be to meet up with the seller at a carrier store and to have the carrier activate the phone while the seller is present. If there are any problems the buyer will find out then. If the seller refuses to meet with the buyer at a carrier store it's a good indicator that something is not legit.
Applecare US Cellular iPhone replacements are coming unlocked for domestic use out of the box. I can confirm this first hand.
Additionally, I'm able to activate my USCC iPhone 5c(A1456) on Sprint and Sprints MVNOs as the ESN is loaded in there database
Meet them at a carrier store, swap SIM cards and dial ##UPDATE#. If that won't work the Sprint salesmen will have to have your SIM paired to your new device.
POST #1 UPDATED TO REFLECT NEW AUTOMATIC UNLOCK OF SPRINT IPHONES
See here: http://www.reddit.com/r/Sprint/comments/2ut91c/clarifying_ctia_and_sprints_unlock_policy/
Your iPhone will be unlocked after February 19, 2015 if you have met your contract agreement or paid ETF. This is automatic and you will not need to do anything.
NOTE THAT THE IPHONE 4, 4S AND IPHONE 5 ARE STILL EXCLUDED!
Further details in post #1 at the top or follow the link
See here: http://www.reddit.com/r/Sprint/comments/2ut91c/clarifying_ctia_and_sprints_unlock_policy/
Your iPhone will be unlocked after February 19, 2015 if you have met your contract agreement or paid ETF. This is automatic and you will not need to do anything.
NOTE THAT THE IPHONE 4, 4S AND IPHONE 5 ARE STILL EXCLUDED!
Further details in post #1 at the top or follow the link
Is it specifically launched or is it referring to SOLD after? does it mean the iPhone 6/6+ will never be eligible according to their LAUNCH date?
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This is great, I have been doing some investigation my self, Some Verizon iPhones are only domestically unlocked but locked against international use.
It's meaning that they will automatically unlock the 5c, 5s, 6 and 6+ for domestic US carrier use. As long as you have either paid ETF or met your contract commitment. The policy is changing except for the iPhone 4/4s/5. Which makes sense as those SIM cards are different.
So, it looks like my assumptions about "designed and manufactured after February 2015" were wrong.
In any case it seems that I will not have to be talking about this anymore!
So my already internationally unlocked 6 will automatically receive the DSU?
Sucks that the 5 isn't getting a DSU, I have a perfect Sprint 5 laying in a box.
According to the information posted in the link, that is correct.
It appears that someone (probably Claure) realized just how much damage this policy was doing to Sprint's 'reputation'.
In any case, if true (and I think it is) then the whole issue of unlocking Sprint iPhones is now dead. Rightfully so, good riddance and may it never, ever come again.
Just wanted to add, even with non-iPhones, the MSL code is pretty much irrelevant when it comes to SIM-unlocking. It's main function is to allow the phone's NV partition to be reprogrammed or "flashed" to another network as well as changing the MEID number.
Yes, I noted that in Post #1 earlier. That information is still correct. Apple does not use MSL codes.
Considering the new policy this makes MSL codes doubly irrelevant. However, the policy was not just specific to iPhones. iPhones were mentioned because they are a certain exception (a good exception) but the bit about MSL codes was directed towards non-iPhone owners.
So does this DSU policy automatically apply to those who had a international SIM unlock from Sprint? Will my device automatically be updated with the new id policy?
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