Sprint Users, the Everything Data plans are going bye-bye for good!

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  1. eyoungren macrumors P6

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    According to this you have until October 11 before the only plan you can get is the new Unlimited My Way plans.

    Those of us still on the ED plans (or the older Fair and Flexible plans) can still keep them and upgrade, but who knows for how long.

    Note to new or potential Sprint customers. The Everything Data plans are NOT listed on the Sprint website anymore, BUT you can still get one until October 11. The difference between the ED plans and the new plans is that there is no "guarantee" of unlimited data with the ED plans and depending on the type of ED plan you get you can either have unlimited data or unlimited talk. The ED plans are cheaper for three or more lines of service.

    Note that the OP in the thread I link to is a Sprint CSR in the know.
     
  2. user-name-here macrumors 65816

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    If anyone wants to look at the ED plans (even if sprint no longer has them on its website officially) here's a guide I found on how to do so:
    http://www.pocketables.com/2013/09/...ata-plans-are-still-available-if-you-dig.html
     
  3. eyoungren thread starter macrumors P6

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    Thanks for that!

    You can also call them. They are not promoting the old ED plans but CSRs have not been instructed to deny signing anyone up on them until the 11th.
     
  4. user-name-here macrumors 65816

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    Happy to help :)

    Just curious since I'm not on Sprint, do they still have the $10 'premium data' charge for smartphones?

    If it was actually just $60 for 500 min + unlim text/data that seems like a heckuva' deal with nationwide LTE on the way.
     
  5. eyoungren thread starter macrumors P6

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    Well…yes. But the Premium Data charge [spit] is only applied to the ED plans and only if you are using a phone that Sprint considers to be a "smartphone." The old F&F and SERO plans don't get this charge because you're only supposed to be able to use feature phones or dumbphones on those plans.

    The new plans include the charge in the cost. Something Sprint should have done a LONG time ago. You can't argue with the price of the plans, but EVERYONE argues over a fee. Especially those who've been around long enough to know when the fee started, what it was originally called (4G Data fee) and why it was originally applied and for what phones.

    That fee is a legacy of WiMax. Clearwire was charging Sprint $10 for every 4G phone that was capable of using WiMax whether that phone was sold in an area that Clearwire had 4G in or not. Sprint went to arbitration with Clear over the fee and that's when Clearwire started to give Sprint the middle finger over things.

    Sprint retracted the name of the fee shortly after putting it out there and engaged in revisionist history about it. Every CSR is brainwashed to repeat the same mantra about how the fee was never for 4G data. There was even a website and a lawsuit over the whole damn thing.

    Both my wife and I are being charged the fee now because we are still on the ED plan and have iPhones. I'm semi-ok with that because we no longer pay TEP (Total Equipment Protection) which was insurance for $8 month. So, realistically I'm only paying $4 more than I used to.
     
  6. mccjim12 macrumors member

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    Is there a drawback price wise or data wise to switching off of an Everything Data plan? I just switched from Everything Data 450 to Unlimited My Way. Both come out to about $80/month.

    I did this because I was paying $80 to be capped at 450 minutes and figured that the UMW plan was a no brainer.

    But when I saw the title of this thread it made me nervous!
     
  7. eyoungren thread starter macrumors P6

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    The drawback is that the new plans are more expensive as you add more lines. Sprint charges less money for each line you add but that cost is more than the ED plans of $20/line. You also get charged $35 per smartphone line to have unlimited data or $15 for a feature phone. Versus the ED charge of $10 per smartphone or $0 per feature phone.

    Essentially you are paying more with the new plans to get unlimited minutes and a "guarantee" that the plan will always be unlimited. Something that is not necessary when Sprint already gives you free mobile to mobile calling and unlimited data under the old plans.
     
  8. SantaRosa2.2 macrumors regular

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    I too have the everything data 450 with unlimited data and 450 landline minutes. Unlimited mobile to mobile and unlimited data and text means it's a pretty good deal and the costing about $80 a month.

    I noticed the new plan everything data for 79.99 a month and that's about the same price but as far as I can tell it looks like there's no cap on the landline minutes.

    So in fact it looks like a better deal than before, or at least about the same price.
     
  9. mccjim12, Sep 30, 2013
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    Thanks. Yeah, for me who just has the single line I thought it a better deal because of the unlimited minutes.

    There is a mention on the link above that makes reference to a lower data rate under the new plans. Any truth to this?
     
  10. RolandNights macrumors 6502a

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    Does that work the same when you hop onto someone else's family plan? My brother, sister, and all have individual plans, but we want to merge them into one family plan. We all currently have the ED plan.
     
  11. eyoungren thread starter macrumors P6

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    If you are referring to the link in Post #2 then that's a $10 off deal provided by virtue of the instructions listed there. I would assume the Premium Data Fee does not change.

    Folks. Keep in mind, I'm just a customer and all I am doing is passing along information that I read about on the forums I frequent. Your mileage may vary.

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    If this were me, I would determine the person who is to have the primary line. That person would be the one to put a new ED account into his name. Simply call them up and say you want to switch to an ED family plan. Then that person would tell Sprint how many lines and give the rep the names for those lines.

    I assume this is how it would work but only till October 11. After that you'd be able to get a family plan but it would only be under the new Unlimited plan.

    Note that the "All In" plan is individual only.
     
  12. mccjim12 macrumors member

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    With regard to my comment about 'lower data rate' what I meant was that that link alludes to a slower bandwidth rate:

    "If you want to switch to Sprint, but you’re not impressed by Sprint’s new Unlimited My Way plans, there’s still hope. After all, why would you want to limit yourself with lower bandwidth priority or 1Mbps video streaming, when you can have it all on one of the old Everything Data plans?"

    I'm just wondering if anyone can confirm this because I'd much rather go back to ED and have better data than have unlimited minutes as I rarely used all of my 450 anyway. Thanks again!
     
  13. eyoungren thread starter macrumors P6

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    Yeah, I can confirm that. They aren't "throttling" video, but they are "optimizing" video so that you get lower quality delivered at 1mbps. This way they can say that they aren't throttling you. But the quality will be lower.

    Also, with the new plans you only have their new options for hotspots. Right now you can add a 2GB hotspot to the ED plans for $20/month and 6gb (I think) for $30 or something like that. The prices for hotspots on the new plans give you less and cost more.
     
  14. ET iPhone Home macrumors 68040

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    I have a 4S, do you know if I switch over from the "450 ED" to the new "Unlimited Talk and Text" for $50, am I required to select a Data plan? I don't need Data since I only use it over wifi. Sprint's data is not worth it and is so slow. This would save me quite a bit and I may stay with Sprint if I can elect this new plan only. Otherwise, I plan on switching over to T-Mobile. Thanks.

    EDIT:

    I just went through the order process and it does require a data plan, which is why I prefer T-Mobile, as I'm not forced upon a Data plan which I don't need.
     
  15. mccjim12 macrumors member

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    Just a quick follow up re: Everything Data vs. Unlimited, My Way...

    I would not advise anyone to switch off of everything data if video quality is of any concern. The difference between the quality of HD video when connected to wifi and when not is absolutely staggering. When on Sprint 3G videos look absolutely horrible, and the data speed in general is markedly worse.

    It seems I totally shot myself in the foot in the name of having unlimited talk.

    I thought that I could switch back to ED via the method above but it seems that trick is only good for new subscribers.Just a word to the wise for anyone drawn in by the supposedly "unlimited everything" plans.

    I'm seriously thinking about leaving Sprint when my contract is up at the end of the month. Can anyone recommend a good carrier from experience? I have only ever had Sprint and Virgin Mobile, which uses the Sprint towers last I was aware. Verizon puts me off with the 2GB data cap but I am open to any suggestions.

    Thanks!
     
  16. eyoungren thread starter macrumors P6

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    Thanks for that.

    If you really look at the plans before you leap you can see (at least in my opinion) that they are geared more towards new customers. No, the ED plans don't have unlimited talk. But with Anytime Minutes, free Nights and Weekends and free Mobile to Mobile it doesn't really matter.

    It think the most egregious thing though is this unlimited "guarantee". Sprint has yet to satisfactorily explain what this 'guarantee' gets you on the new plans versus what the unlimited of the old ED plans gets you. I suppose at some point if a customer is still on an ED plan Sprint could say that they are now throttling or limiting things. But, usually Sprint just forces you into the new plans versus changing old ones so I don't know how likely this is.

    In any case, sorry to see you go, but always use what's best for you. I too have only been on Sprint, so I cannot make any recommendations.
     
  17. mccjim12 macrumors member

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    Thanks e. Yeah, I'm gonna sleep on it for a while and see what deals are out there.

    At the end of the day, I would say I still have a pretty good deal with Sprint, so we'll see.
     
  18. sundog925 macrumors 6502a

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    Go to t-mobile. It's closest rival is sprint. Att and verizon are expensive but you get what you pay for.
     
  19. bwsteg macrumors 6502

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    I have the Everything Data 1500 (Everything Family)

    I spoke to Sprint about this recently. They tried to convert me to the new plans but in the end as you add more lines, it becomes even more expensive.

    The service rep explained to me that the everything data plans are "unlimited data" but its not a guarantee like the new plans. So, months, years, etc. from now, Sprint can turn around and say those with the old plans no longer have unlimited data...
     
  20. eyoungren thread starter macrumors P6

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    Yeah, I did the math too and the new plans would have me paying $20 more. Not to mention that I don't trust Sprint to let my freebie Airave line come across without all of a sudden being made a paid third line.

    I'll hold on to our ED Family plan as long as I can.
     
  21. CoMoMacUser macrumors 6502a

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    The $10 premium data fee applied to SERO. The first time I paid that was when I got the original EVO in 2010. It still applied when I left this past February for TMO.
     
  22. eyoungren thread starter macrumors P6

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    Really? OK thanks for the correction. A lot of the users I see on the sprintusers.com forums don't mention that and some of them are using smartphones that would qualify.
     
  23. joshwithachance macrumors 68000

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    The one thing that stinks about the new plans are that monthly service discounts are only applied to the $30 device portion, and not the entire bill.
     
  24. CoMoMacUser macrumors 6502a

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    It might have changed since I left in February. I haven't checked the SERO plans since then.
     
  25. eyoungren thread starter macrumors P6

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    Yeah, Sprint has been systematically eliminating discounts. The big shakeup was a year or so ago on the ED Family plans. Before it was $129 for the first and second line and $20 for each line thereafer. Any discounts applied to that $129.

    But, Sprint changed that to $110 for the first line, $9 for the second line and $20 for each line thereafter. Which meant that discounts which applied to the $110 and not the $129 like it used to be.

    Nickle and dimeing, but that's Sprint.

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    I doubt it's changed. These are forum members there who've had SERO plans since before Sprint allowed family members on them.

    I guess I just made assumptions that because they were not mentioning smartphones and always talking about what they needed to keep their SERO plans that they were not having to pay the Premium Data fee.
     

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