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SR MBP LED LCD yellowish and gradients issue

dartzorichalcos said:
Is it true that the more VRAM the GPU has, the more/better colors will show up on the screen? I heard someone say it before and wondering if it's true.
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No, it's not true.

Or well, back in the days when you had say 2MB graphics memory maybe you couldn't run the highest resolution at 24 bit so you had to use say 8 bit.. But well, noone have 1-2MB vram longer so no, not true ;D
 
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1 | 0A 11 01 03 80 22 16 78 0A 50 C5 98 58 52 8E 27
2 | 25 50 54 00 00 00 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01
3 | 01 01 01 01 01 01 9F 25 A0 40 51 84 0C 30 40 20
4 | 33 00 4B CF 10 00 00 19 00 00 00 01 00 06 10 30
5 | 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0A 20 00 00 00 FE 00 4C
6 | 54 4E 31 35 34 42 54 00 00 00 0A 20 00 00 00 FC
7 | 00 43 6F 6C 6F 72 20 4C 43 44 0A 20 20 20 00 14

-----------------------------------------------------
Valid DDC block: checksum passed

EDID Version........1.3
Manufacturer........APP
Product Code........26780 (689C) (9C68)
Serial Number.......0

Manufactured........Week 10 of year 2007
Max H Size..........34 cm
Max V Size..........22 cm
Gamma...............2.20

DPMS Supported Features:
------------------------
Display type:
-------------
RGB color display
Input signal & sync:
--------------------
Digital

Color info:
------------
Red x = 0.595 Green x = 0.320 Blue x = 0.155 White x = 0.313
Red y = 0.345 Green y = 0.555 Blue y = 0.145 White y = 0.329

-------------------------------
Monitor Description blocks:
---------------------------
Descriptor #0 is Timing definition:
Mode = 1440 x 900 @ 60Hz
Pixel Clock.............96.31 MHz Non-Interlaced

Horizontal Vertical
Active..................1440 pixels 900 lines
Front Porch............. 64 pixels 3 lines
Sync Width.............. 32 pixels 3 lines
Back Porch.............. 224 pixels 6 lines
Blanking................ 320 pixels 12 lines
Total...................1760 pixels 912 lines
Scan Rate............... 54.72 kHz 60.00 Hz

Image Size.............. 331 mm 207 mm
Border.................. 0 pixels 0 lines

Sync: Digital separate with
* Negative vertical polarity
* Negative horizontal polarity

Descriptor #1 is Manufacturer specific data (not interpreted here)
Descriptor #2 is ASCII data:
LTN154BT
Descriptor #3 is Monitor name:
Color LCD

And im ringing in as one without the tinting issue 😉
 
The Yellow Hue

15" MacBook Pro - Matte

I do have the "Yellow Hue" problem on the bottom 1/3 of the screen

DDC block report generated by SwitchResX for display
Color LCD

0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F
-----------------------------------------------------
0 | 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF 00 06 10 68 9C 00 00 00 00
1 | 0A 11 01 03 80 22 16 78 0A 50 C5 98 58 52 8E 27
2 | 25 50 54 00 00 00 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01
3 | 01 01 01 01 01 01 9F 25 A0 40 51 84 0C 30 40 20
4 | 33 00 4B CF 10 00 00 19 00 00 00 01 00 06 10 30
5 | 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0A 20 00 00 00 FE 00 4C
6 | 54 4E 31 35 34 42 54 00 00 00 0A 20 00 00 00 FC
7 | 00 43 6F 6C 6F 72 20 4C 43 44 0A 20 20 20 00 14

-----------------------------------------------------
Valid DDC block: checksum passed

EDID Version........1.3
Manufacturer........APP
Product Code........26780 (689C) (9C68)
Serial Number.......0

Manufactured........Week 10 of year 2007
Max H Size..........34 cm
Max V Size..........22 cm
Gamma...............2.20

DPMS Supported Features:
------------------------


Display type:
-------------
RGB color display


Input signal & sync:
--------------------
Digital

Color info:
------------
Red x = 0.595 Green x = 0.320 Blue x = 0.155 White x = 0.313
Red y = 0.345 Green y = 0.555 Blue y = 0.145 White y = 0.329

Established Timings:
--------------------

Manufacturer Reserved Timings:
------------------------------

Standard Timing Identification:
-------------------------------

Monitor Description blocks:
---------------------------
Descriptor #0 is Timing definition:
Mode = 1440 x 900 @ 60Hz
Pixel Clock.............96.31 MHz Non-Interlaced

Horizontal Vertical
Active..................1440 pixels 900 lines
Front Porch............. 64 pixels 3 lines
Sync Width.............. 32 pixels 3 lines
Back Porch.............. 224 pixels 6 lines
Blanking................ 320 pixels 12 lines
Total...................1760 pixels 912 lines
Scan Rate............... 54.72 kHz 60.00 Hz

Image Size.............. 331 mm 207 mm
Border.................. 0 pixels 0 lines

Sync: Digital separate with
* Negative vertical polarity
* Negative horizontal polarity

Descriptor #1 is Manufacturer specific data (not interpreted here)

Descriptor #2 is ASCII data:
LTN154BT
 
So, SandmanTR has the yellowing problem, mayoko185 doesn't... but they both have the same panel.

I declare shenanigans on Apple.
 
LED LCD Manufactures

15.4 Matte 1440x900
iW00t said:
EDID Version........1.3
Manufacturer........APP
Product Code........26524 (679C) (9C67)
Serial Number.......0

Manufactured........Week 0 of year 2007
Max H Size..........33 cm
Max V Size..........21 cm
Gamma...............2.20

Descriptor #2 is ASCII data:
LP154WP2-TLA1 --> LG Panel
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15.4 Glossy 1440x900
mayoko185 said:
EDID Version........1.3
Manufacturer........APP
Product Code........26780 (689C) (9C68)
Serial Number.......0

Manufactured........Week 10 of year 2007
Max H Size..........34 cm
Max V Size..........22 cm
Gamma...............2.20

Descriptor #2 is ASCII data:
LTN154BT --> Samsung Panel
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15.4 Matte 1440x900
SandmanTR said:
EDID Version........1.3
Manufacturer........APP
Product Code........26780 (689C) (9C68)
Serial Number.......0

Manufactured........Week 10 of year 2007
Max H Size..........34 cm
Max V Size..........22 cm
Gamma...............2.20

Descriptor #2 is ASCII data:
LTN154BT --> Samsung Panel
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17 Matte 1920x1200
twynne said:
EDID Version........1.3
Manufacturer........APP
Product Code........27036 (699C) (9C69)
Serial Number.......0

Manufactured........Week 15 of year 2007
Max H Size..........37 cm
Max V Size..........23 cm
Gamma...............2.20

Descriptor #2 is ASCII data:
LP171WU1-TLB1 --> LG Panel
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This is what we got so far on the SR MBP. 15.4" comes with either LG or Samsung panel, and 17" comes with LG. Some exhibit yellow tint, some don't , also notice the production date might be another factor. The glossy layer on the new LCD panel maybe the culprit?
 
milky23 said:
So, SandmanTR has the yellowing problem, mayoko185 doesn't... but they both have the same panel.
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I didn't perceive the yellow cast on my display until I started using a calibrated profile. Now when I switch back to the Apple-supplied "Color LCD" profile, the cast is immediately obvious.

What I still don't notice is any additional cast at the bottom. My display is nearly perfect in this regard. I only notice a slightly lower brightness level at the bottom when my viewing angle is less than perfect.
 
Yeah. I just did a color calibration too and the yellow tint is gone, but it sounds like some people's problems are a little scarier, with the whole "only 1/3rd" thing.
 
emex said:
Yeah. I just did a color calibration too and the yellow tint is gone, but it sounds like some people's problems are a little scarier, with the whole "only 1/3rd" thing.
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I think it's hard to tell if the lower third is yellowish or if it's brownish due to that area being darker than the rest, or perhaps a little of both. Probably a little bit of both.
 
Mine has a slight yellow tint that is still visible at the bottom after calibration. The profile:

DDC block report generated by SwitchResX for display
Color LCD (1)

0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F
-----------------------------------------------------
0 | 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF 00 06 10 67 9C 00 00 00 00
1 | 00 11 01 03 80 21 15 78 0A 9C 60 99 58 51 8E 26
2 | 12 50 54 00 00 00 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01
3 | 01 01 01 01 01 01 9F 25 A0 40 51 84 0C 30 40 20
4 | 33 00 4C CF 10 00 00 18 00 00 00 01 00 06 10 30
5 | 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0A 20 00 00 00 FE 00 4C
6 | 50 31 35 34 57 50 32 2D 54 4C 41 31 00 00 00 FE
7 | 00 43 6F 6C 6F 72 20 4C 43 44 0A 20 20 20 00 46

-----------------------------------------------------
Valid DDC block: checksum passed

EDID Version........1.3
Manufacturer........APP
Product Code........26524 (679C) (9C67)
Serial Number.......0

Manufactured........Week 0 of year 2007
Max H Size..........33 cm
Max V Size..........21 cm
Gamma...............2.20

DPMS Supported Features:
------------------------


Display type:
-------------
RGB color display


Input signal & sync:
--------------------
Digital

Color info:
------------
Red x = 0.600 Green x = 0.319 Blue x = 0.149 White x = 0.312
Red y = 0.345 Green y = 0.555 Blue y = 0.072 White y = 0.328

Established Timings:
--------------------

Manufacturer Reserved Timings:
------------------------------

Standard Timing Identification:
-------------------------------

Monitor Description blocks:
---------------------------
Descriptor #0 is Timing definition:
Mode = 1440 x 900 @ 60Hz
Pixel Clock.............96.31 MHz Non-Interlaced

Horizontal Vertical
Active..................1440 pixels 900 lines
Front Porch............. 64 pixels 3 lines
Sync Width.............. 32 pixels 3 lines
Back Porch.............. 224 pixels 6 lines
Blanking................ 320 pixels 12 lines
Total...................1760 pixels 912 lines
Scan Rate............... 54.72 kHz 60.00 Hz

Image Size.............. 332 mm 207 mm
Border.................. 0 pixels 0 lines

Sync: Digital separate with
* Negative vertical polarity
* Negative horizontal polarity

Descriptor #1 is Manufacturer specific data (not interpreted here)

Descriptor #2 is ASCII data:
LP154WP2-TLA1
Descriptor #3 is ASCII data:
Color LCD
 
I am jumpin into this conversation a little late and skimmed over all the posts.

This is what I have concluded -

The new MBP LED screens with glossy finish are to blame. So if I am unhappy I can exchange it for a matte finish and probably be allright?
 
msharpmu said:
I am jumpin into this conversation a little late and skimmed over all the posts.

This is what I have concluded -

The new MBP LED screens with glossy finish are to blame. So if I am unhappy I can exchange it for a matte finish and probably be allright?
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I don't think matte vs glossy had anything to do with it, althought I don't know.
 
Here's mine. Bought first day in store. Glossy, with the yellow tint on lower 3rd of screen.

DDC block report generated by SwitchResX for display
Color LCD

0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F
-----------------------------------------------------
0 | 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF 00 06 10 68 9C 00 00 00 00
1 | 0A 11 01 03 80 22 16 78 0A 50 C5 98 58 52 8E 27
2 | 25 50 54 00 00 00 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01
3 | 01 01 01 01 01 01 9F 25 A0 40 51 84 0C 30 40 20
4 | 33 00 4B CF 10 00 00 19 00 00 00 01 00 06 10 30
5 | 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0A 20 00 00 00 FE 00 4C
6 | 54 4E 31 35 34 42 54 00 00 00 0A 20 00 00 00 FC
7 | 00 43 6F 6C 6F 72 20 4C 43 44 0A 20 20 20 00 14

-----------------------------------------------------
Valid DDC block: checksum passed

EDID Version........1.3
Manufacturer........APP
Product Code........26780 (689C) (9C68)
Serial Number.......0

Manufactured........Week 10 of year 2007
Max H Size..........34 cm
Max V Size..........22 cm
Gamma...............2.20

DPMS Supported Features:
------------------------


Display type:
-------------
RGB color display


Input signal & sync:
--------------------
Digital

Color info:
------------
Red x = 0.595 Green x = 0.320 Blue x = 0.155 White x = 0.313
Red y = 0.345 Green y = 0.555 Blue y = 0.145 White y = 0.329

Established Timings:
--------------------

Manufacturer Reserved Timings:
------------------------------

Standard Timing Identification:
-------------------------------

Monitor Description blocks:
---------------------------
Descriptor #0 is Timing definition:
Mode = 1440 x 900 @ 60Hz
Pixel Clock.............96.31 MHz Non-Interlaced

Horizontal Vertical
Active..................1440 pixels 900 lines
Front Porch............. 64 pixels 3 lines
Sync Width.............. 32 pixels 3 lines
Back Porch.............. 224 pixels 6 lines
Blanking................ 320 pixels 12 lines
Total...................1760 pixels 912 lines
Scan Rate............... 54.72 kHz 60.00 Hz

Image Size.............. 331 mm 207 mm
Border.................. 0 pixels 0 lines

Sync: Digital separate with
* Negative vertical polarity
* Negative horizontal polarity

Descriptor #1 is Manufacturer specific data (not interpreted here)

Descriptor #2 is ASCII data:
LTN154BT
 
Ok, I've tried to take some pictures here.

The first one is the default ColorLCD profile underneath my desktop Samsung 215Tw :

colorLCDprofile.jpg



The second one is using the colorsync profile posted on macrumors underneath the samsung display:

6-7-07_profile.jpg



The third picture uses the calibrated profile and try to show the difference between whites at the top and the yellowish whites at the bottom, especially left half. It's VERY hard to captures this and what I did capture does not quite show what it looks like. In real life, there's more of a very translucent yellowishness' to that area. Now when I look at the photo it's really difficult to see - damn. it's easily visible in reality.

20070615-DSC_1449-1.jpg
 
PDE said:
Ok, I've tried to take some pictures here.

The first one is the default ColorLCD profile underneath my desktop Samsung 215Tw :

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z111/nycpde/colorLCDprofile.jpg


The second one is using the colorsync profile posted on macrumors underneath the samsung display:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z111/nycpde/6-7-07_profile.jpg


The third and fourth pictures use the calibrated profile and try to show the difference between whites at the top and the yellowish whites at the bottom. It's VERY hard to captures this and what I did capture does not quite show what it looks like. In real life, there's more of a yellow 'glow' to that area.
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What color calibration files did you use?
 
PDE said:
The third picture uses the calibrated profile and try to show the difference between whites at the top and the yellowish whites at the bottom, especially left half. It's VERY hard to captures this and what I did capture does not quite show what it looks like. In real life, there's more of a very translucent yellowishness' to that area. Now when I look at the photo it's really difficult to see - damn. it's easily visible in reality.
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I see the yellow tint from your picture. It also seemed there is a slight uneven lit bleed from the bottom edge of the screen? Or was it camera angle?
 
HFU said:
I see the yellow tint from your picture. It also seemed there is a slight uneven lit bleed from the bottom edge of the screen? Or was it camera angle?
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I tried to keep a straight angle in order not to get into the problem of viewing angles and the yellow tint caused by that. It's possible that I may have been slightly off, but not enough to be in a bad viewing angle. There's actually not much bleed at the bottom, more from the top.
 
PDE said:
I tried to keep a straight angle in order not to get into the problem of viewing angles and the yellow tint caused by that. It's possible that I may have been slightly off, but not enough to be in a bad viewing angle. There's actually not much bleed at the bottom, more from the top.
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Thanks a lot PDE that's a proof at least and thanks for the data about manufactures from rest of you, but unfortunatly it shows somewhere yes and somewhere no....

I noticed that LED in new SR MBP are 3-5mm higher placed in frame then the C2D MBP. Question to think, it's possible to have the bottom part be some kind of inner reflection from plastic?

Another question to think what is the layers of LCD Display?
-Antireflection coat
- Some kind of plastic glass
- Liquid crystals
- some electric wireframe
- another plastic glass
- matte sheet?
- led backlight?

The bottom of the screen is usually hotter then the top, can that be issue? Can hot effect the LEDs?

I know it's question for engineers but i'm just curious 🙂

(when I was saying in Apple Store I'm not alone seeing this issue and pointing to this forum, manager in duty said: "I don't believe these forums to much, they also claim that Elvis is alive..." 😉 )
 
Daveway said:
I have a 2.2 glossy and I cannot find the yellow tint on my display. That's not to say there aren't a few things that bother me.

I noticed some color banding while activating Front Row. No big deal at all, I really couldn't careless about that at this point.

I noticed there is an allusion of vertical banding whenever I get about 16" from the screen and shake my head (like saying "no".) Not that bothersome as I'm usually not shaking my head at the computer, but I do notice it every so often.

Other than that the display is amazing. I love the glossy screen and am glad I chose it. i can actually use the computer outside and glare is not an issue. The brightness is enough to burn out a cornea.🙂
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yes, i noticed that when I stand about 26 inches behind my screen slightly to the left and do cartwheels there is slight vertical color banding as well.
 
I promise to you all that I am working on this. I am new to the mac and my MBP is a little yellow. Can someone please recap some steps that I can take that might help fix this issue. Thanks in advance...
 
msharpmu said:
I promise to you all that I am working on this. I am new to the mac and my MBP is a little yellow. Can someone please recap some steps that I can take that might help fix this issue. Thanks in advance...
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if it's yellow completly the whole screen just go to display and calibrate it under the color tab.

if it's yellow in bottom 1/3 you can't do anything, but try change the viewing angle....it may go less or more....but will be there still
 
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