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SR MBP LED LCD yellowish and gradients issue

Erasmus said:
Stop trolling.

OS9 was crap. I hate OS9 every time I boot into it.
The LED screens on the 15" MBPs are apparently great. Better than CCFL. And I believe it, and can't wait to get one.

The idea that Apple use crappy parts in the MBP is laughable. If they didn't use good parts, they would still have CCFL backlit screens, and would still be running off the Napa platform, with the X1600. But they aren't. And they don't. They use good parts. These problems with the screen will all be gone in a few weeks once Apple identifies and remedies the cause.

On a side note, are we sure the screens are still 6 bit?
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I'm not trolling, I'm being semi-sarcastic. But there are a lot of OS 9 elements that were nice, which they abandoned, and there are a lot of interface behaviors in OS X which are not consistent. Like Open/Save dialogs not remembering the last place you opened or saved to, or the way the columns were sorted the last time, etc.

Also, I would rather have a CCFL backlit screen than one with a yellow bar on the bottom. If I pay $2500 for a laptop the screen had better be perfect!

I mean, I can get a PC laptop for half that which has a fine screen. I was at the store yesterday and they had an HP laptop for $599 that had a screen with more even colors than my MBP screen. That's unacceptable.

Yes I know I use a CRT for my real important color-matching, but the built-in LCD ought to be evenly backlit. No yellow corners. Sorry.

(NOTE -- Apparently apple agrees with me as they are replacing my screen.)

-=DG=-
 
I'm very happy with the display. I'd just like to have control over what 'tint' it has rather than one being assigned to me. I'd especially like control over the tint of each display quadrant....

Seriously, I absolutely LOVE my new computer and was merely showing links to pictures of the yellow tint phenomenon so that those who haven't seen it can see what the discussion is all about.
 
iW00t said:
My 2080UX which is calibrated to native white balance is pretty much the same too. In fact I prefer to have that colour cast because of my usage patterns. Come on guys, be realistic. It is not just this particular panel.
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Well, when I'm used to higher color temp I would prefer that over lower, and when I'm used to a more normal color temp I would prefer that over the higher one most people use, but the issue here was that the color temp / color isn't the same over all the surface, which I (and probably you to if you had noticed it / it was on your laptop, which it obviously isn't) would find disturbing (if it's enough of it, I can't see the macbook pro irl since there are no store in my town who sells them, so I can't tell.)
 
aliquis- said:
the issue here was that the color temp / color isn't the same over all the surface
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Is there some software or something that works with the calibration devices which i can move around the screen to see if it is consistent?

Then again I still cannot see it, my whites look the same at the top as they are at the bottom.
 
iW00t said:
Is there some software or something that works with the calibration devices which i can move around the screen to see if it is consistent?

Then again I still cannot see it, my whites look the same at the top as they are at the bottom.
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Me either I notice no "yellowness" on mine.

Crisp white is all I see. Whether using the default profile or the calibrated profile my Huey creates
 
iW00t said:
Is there some software or something that works with the calibration devices which i can move around the screen to see if it is consistent?

Then again I still cannot see it, my whites look the same at the top as they are at the bottom.
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I have no idea, seemed like some people suggested that some calibration devices could measure color temp.

I'm on a 6-7 year old 17" dell trinitron where i use 1024x768 because 1280x1024 is annoying on my eyes after a while even thought it works at 85Hz so =P.

I might still order the MBP, the 128MB vram by default and eventually getting one with a screen I'm not happy with are worring me thought, but it will suck to wait one more time :/, also with my luck they probably have 128MB vram the next round to.
 
iW00t said:
Urgh, I should stop reading such threads, else I start looking for problems where I noticed none before. :rolleyes:
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Yes, me too, me too. It's hard not to get involved when you have new technology...oh well.


BTW, here's a review of a Sony notebook LED LCD. The review mentions warmer tones too so perhaps it's a characteristic of all LED displays?

"The measurement diagram depicts slightly lowered blue and green color curves, which let the colors appear warmer to the user."


http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Sony-Vaio-VGN-TX5XN-Notebook.3747.0.html
 
PDE said:
Yes, me too, me too. It's hard not to get involved when you have new technology...oh well.


BTW, here's a review of a Sony notebook LED LCD. The review mentions warmer tones too so perhaps it's a characteristic of all LED displays?

"The measurement diagram depicts slightly lowered blue and green color curves, which let the colors appear warmer to the user."


http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Sony-Vaio-VGN-TX5XN-Notebook.3747.0.html
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The Sony does seem to have great viewing angles though.
 
i just got back from the apple store and.....


it looks AMAZING!!!!

the matte finish looked perfect and bright and incredible. The only problem I saw was with the glossy finished screen
 
I just noticed this thread and what you guys are talking about right now, for my new MBP with glossy finished screen, when I look at the screen from top to the bottom there are no yellowish color what so ever just white, but how ever when I look from either left or the right side i can see the entire screen became yellowish so is that the problem or? maybe its just how the glossy finished looks like when I combined with the new LED screen?
 
The MBP I bought on Monday had a definite yellow cast over the bottom 1/3 of the screen, that was not due to viewing angle or any other factor. The screen lighting was just yellow, period.

Well, I just exchanged mine, and I can say the replacement has no problems. Absolutely beautiful screen.
 
iW00t said:
Is there some software or something that works with the calibration devices which i can move around the screen to see if it is consistent?
Then again I still cannot see it, my whites look the same at the top as they are at the bottom.
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Well you can use this if somebody will borrow it to you...idoubt it

or you can borrow this if you will cover the sensor to smaller probe. propably should have it in every camera rental house, or just go there and borrow it for just there...but you need to be in dark room or has the instrument touching the display...it measure color temperature any tint it will go lower then D65
 
Perhaps a digital camera with the lens touching the screen so no extra light can get in can be used to take two pictures of a simple white background, one at the top, and one at the bottom, and then you can use something in Photoshop to analyse them?
 
Erasmus said:
Perhaps a digital camera with the lens touching the screen so no extra light can get in can be used to take two pictures of a simple white background, one at the top, and one at the bottom, and then you can use something in Photoshop to analyse them?
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Yeah but everything and especially whitebalance should be set to manual. THen in photoshop you can take the drop eye and check RGB values, but noise and CCD transfer and color variation of lens are in game......anyway it's good to try it, good point mate!
 
Well I took my MBP to the Apple store. The Genius noted my issue with the screen and said he didn't want to exchange it for a new MBP, since a new one could have the same problem. So they are ordering me a new screen from Apple and will replace it when it comes in. And for good measure a new keyboard too, since I have a squeaky spacebar. And they will fix and replace the parts in the store, so I don't have to send it off for a long time.

Well once again Apple has proven their service to be impeccable. I'm a happy customer :D

-=DG=-
 
Dark Goob said:
Well I took my MBP to the Apple store. The Genius noted my issue with the screen and said he didn't want to exchange it for a new MBP, since a new one could have the same problem. So they are ordering me a new screen from Apple and will replace it when it comes in. And for good measure a new keyboard too, since I have a squeaky spacebar. And they will fix and replace the parts in the store, so I don't have to send it off for a long time.

Well once again Apple has proven their service to be impeccable. I'm a happy customer :D

-=DG=-
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Did you have a new the MacBook Pro with the yellow hue problem? Did he struggle to see it or did he notice it immediately?
 
I have the glossy MBP the day it came out, and I noticed it immediately since I have the old MBP sitting right next to it that's not perfect either but the icons in dock look a lot better. Since then I was trying to replace but unfortunately the glossy are always out of stock from my local apple stores. Now they don't even have the matte any more. I guess these are selling pretty well. I might just go with a matte screen next time if it means less color problems...
 
Would Apple release an update to fix this ?

Hi All,

I just got hold of a new Macbook Pro last week. It's a 15" LED SR version. So far I have not noticed any yellow tinges / discolouration on the screen although I probably have not been looking that hard. I can definitely see the difference on the flickr images which were mentioned above.

My question is, is this a hardware or software/profile issue ? If it's a pure software issue would Apple release a patch to fix this ? (ie a new default profile)

Rgds
Rick
 
rb1234 said:
Hi All,

I just got hold of a new Macbook Pro last week. It's a 15" LED SR version. So far I have not noticed any yellow tinges / discolouration on the screen although I probably have not been looking that hard. I can definitely see the difference on the flickr images which were mentioned above.

My question is, is this a hardware or software/profile issue ? If it's a pure software issue would Apple release a patch to fix this ? (ie a new default profile)

Rgds
Rick
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In the past I would say that no, this is definitely a hardware issue and not a software issue. However, I'm not as ignorant anymore and I've seen many 'hardware' issues actually fixed with software/firmware. It's up to you if you want to hold tight hoping for a software fix. The other hope is Apple admits the issue at a later date and offers to replace all of the displays on these notebooks if a software fix isn't available.
 
hehe

About the "yellow" tint: if you look at the screen from the left or right, it's yellowish. But from an above angle, it's blue, and from below, it's greenish.

It just has to do with viewing angle. From straight on, other than the muddy corner (which they are replacing my screen for), it's fine.

BTW, I saw the 17" glossy regular resolution one (not the 1900x1200), and it looks like UTTER CRAP. The graininess was horrible, and you could see the scan rate! The 20" iMac and below are also terribly grainy, along with the 15" Glossy MBP.

However others of their systems look nice. The matte looks good, though it does have a slight sparklyness to it, moreso than the 15" PB I came from. The Glossy MB's have great screens. The 24" iMac has a great screen.

What I would gather is that Apple needs to hire someone with decent eyesight for their quality control department. Apparently there's a yes-man that isn't rejecting stuff that should be rejected.

Could happen to the best of companies I guess. But they need to weed that fool out.

-=DG=-
 
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