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Well My Mac seems to boot up pretty quickly now. But one thing I'm curious about. If I install my old HDD into the optical bay can I in essence create a "fusion drive" in my MBP? Or would my MBP only be able to read the drive as two separate volumes?

I have read posts here from forum members that used a second drive in an optibay setup to make a Fusion drive... so it will work. I have no experience with it myself though.
 
You could - here are the steps: http://www.macworld.com/article/2014011/how-to-make-your-own-fusion-drive.html

Obviously, the concern with this project is that you're putting your data across two drives, so you're increasing the chance of data loss due to failure (either drive could fail or both could fail, breaking the whole arrangement, as opposed to a 50/50 shot with one drive). That being said, if you back up regularly, go for it!

Hmm interesting. Thanks. Also is it possible to use the HDD in the optical bay as a backup drive? Can I use Time Machine with it? I have an external backup drive which I use CCC to back up. But I thought it'd be nice to have a TM backup also.
 
Just ordered Inateck USB 3 UASP enclosures and Samsung EVO 840 1TB SSDs to use as fast backups when we are on photo field trips. I hope we get read/write speeds that are 400+.

I hope we see USB 3.1 ports and enclosures next year. With those higher transport speeds I hope we can get speeds closer to the design limits of the SSDs.
 
You can mount the drive again in Disk Util like ecshwarz mentioned, or there are apps like this that will allow you to do the same thing from the menu bar.

Cool thanks. The App seems to have a pretty good overall review.

I noticed that the App you mentioned is an older version on the Mac App Store. Even in the description on the MAS they say to get the latest version from their own website. But buying it from there own site is almost twice as much as from the MAS.
 
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I noticed that the App you mentioned is an older version on the Mac App Store. Even in the description on the MAS they say to get the latest version from their own website. But buying it from there own site is almost twice as much as from the MAS.
Purchase from App Store; run App Store version; quit this version; download later version from appgineers website; replace App Store version with this one.
 
Purchase from App Store; run App Store version; quit this version; download later version from appgineers website; replace App Store version with this one.

Okay so I downloaded the version from the MAS. Once I launch the app it leads me through the process updating to the latest version. But one thing they mention is that Apple has changed the MAS to use something called "sandboxing". What is that exactly?
 
Sandboxing is an Apple security measure to prevent apps from running potentially unsafe/malicious code that impacts on OS X itself.

The appgeneer's Mountain FAQ says unmounting internal hard drives does not comply with apples sandboxing rules. Please migrate your Mac App Store version to our direct sales version. It will allow you to unmount internal drives.

Mountain will not / cannot eject the active startup volume, so unless you've partitioned your internal drive into multiple volumes then it's a non-issue.

appgeneer don't appear to publish a version history so I couldn't tell you what other changes have occurred between the App Store and the 'direct sale' versions.
 
Sandboxing is an Apple security measure to prevent apps from running potentially unsafe/malicious code that impacts on OS X itself.

The appgeneer's Mountain FAQ says unmounting internal hard drives does not comply with apples sandboxing rules. Please migrate your Mac App Store version to our direct sales version. It will allow you to unmount internal drives.

Mountain will not / cannot eject the active startup volume, so unless you've partitioned your internal drive into multiple volumes then it's a non-issue.

appgeneer don't appear to publish a version history so I couldn't tell you what other changes have occurred between the App Store and the 'direct sale' versions.

So how does that affect the App developer from updating their app?? I would like to think that an update to an app would not contain "unsafe or malicious" code. I guess appgeneer didn't agree to Apple's terms when they introduced Sandboxing.
 
So how does that affect the App developer from updating their app??
It doesn't. But it does prevent them from putting the updated app on the App Store.
I guess appgeneer didn't agree to Apple's terms when they introduced Sandboxing.
It's not a case of 'agree' or 'disagree', it's that the app simply doesn't comply with Apple's terms because it interacts with the operating system more than Apple would like, ie it allows you to eject internal drives.

For the same reason the version of Data Rescue offered on the App Store will only run on external drives, and the App Store variant of CleanMyMac is named CleanMyDrive and is for eternals only.

Applications such as Disk Warrior don't appear on the App Store at all.
 
So how does that affect the App developer from updating their app?? I would like to think that an update to an app would not contain "unsafe or malicious" code. I guess appgeneer didn't agree to Apple's terms when they introduced Sandboxing.

Sandboxing limits certain system calls that applications can use - there are plenty of safe, legitimate applications that will never make it to the App Store due to their nature (utilities, low-level UNIX things, etc.). Panic, one of the high-profile developers for OS X and iOS recently announced the next version of Coda 2 will not be in the App Store for this very reason: http://www.panic.com/blog/coda-2-5-and-the-mac-app-store/

In short, sandboxing is good for most products (it keeps apps out of areas they shouldn't be), but if there are more powerful utility-type tools, they may need to utilize additional resources that are outside of what Apple will allow.

If you're concerned about malicious code, just make sure the application you're installing is coming from a trusted source, and also keep Gatekeeper set to "Mac App Store and identified developers": http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5290?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US
 
It doesn't. But it does prevent them from putting the updated app on the App Store.

It's not a case of 'agree' or 'disagree', it's that the app simply doesn't comply with Apple's terms because it interacts with the operating system more than Apple would like, ie it allows you to eject internal drives.

For the same reason the version of Data Rescue offered on the App Store will only run on external drives, and the App Store variant of CleanMyMac is named CleanMyDrive and is for eternals only.

Applications such as Disk Warrior don't appear on the App Store at all.

Okay. I think I get it. Yeah I was looking for diskwarrior on the MAS before and couldn't find it. Guess that's why.
 
Hoping one of the experts can help me with some challenges I've run into after adding an SSD boot drive. I had a whopping 11GB of space left on my HDD so I decided to buy a Synology NAS, move all of my movies and music to the iTunes server on the NAS and add an SSD to the MBP as a boot drive that I would also like to keep frequently accessed files on. I completed a time machine backup to the Synology, moved the HDD to the optical bay, put the SSD in the main bay, and set everything up following these instructions with the exception of enabling trim.

Here's what I've run into:

1. Office wants a product key again which I don't have, but not a huge deal and seems to be the norm

2. DataVault says it can't find my datavault.db file. I'm able to see it in the time machine backup, but can't restore it or find it elsewhere.

3. The MBP will connect to the NAS in finder, but not through DSM in the browser unless I use the initial "find.synology.xxx" url and log in again.

4. I can't figure out how to move some parts of the users folder (pictures, etc) to the SSD while leaving others behind

The solution I'm mulling over is simply restoring the HDD completely from the time machine backup, then off-loading all of the videos and music to the synology, and then the total volume will be small enough to just clone the HDD to the SSD and call it a day. Just not sure how to do this. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!
 
Can a 1 TB Evo SSD be installed in a new 13 inch MBP?

Hi everyone,

I'm sorry to reply when it's not related, but wasn't sure how to start a new question.

I talked to people at the Apple store and they told me the SSD cannot be modified or replaced other than a factory upgrade??? This seems to go against what I'm reading in the forums...

I bought a 1 TB Samsung EVO 840 with the plan of buying either a new 13 inch MBA or MBP, probably MBP, and then replace the 128 GB SSD.

Can it be done? A bit nervous now, as I already bought the drive and was just about to order the laptop, fully assuming I could swap the drives!!!

Please advise!
 
Hi everyone,

I'm sorry to reply when it's not related, but wasn't sure how to start a new question.
There's a big New Thread button at the top of each sub forum.

I talked to people at the Apple store and they told me the SSD cannot be modified or replaced other than a factory upgrade??? This seems to go against what I'm reading in the forums...
This is partially correct, and you have not been reading entirely correctly. The only company that makes SSD upgrades for the MBA and retina MBP, is OWC.

I bought a 1 TB Samsung EVO 840 with the plan of buying either a new 13 inch MBA or MBP, probably MBP, and then replace the 128 GB SSD.

Can it be done? A bit nervous now, as I already bought the drive and was just about to order the laptop, fully assuming I could swap the drives!!!!
Since the EVO is not a PCIe drive, nor does it fit in either the MBA or the retina MBP, you cant use it. It will fit in the old 13" MBP still available though, so you can buy that instead. Really no point in doing that though, as the MBA is faster, so I would return the SSD you bought.
 
1 TB SSD in MBA?

Thanks so far. Do people just LIVE to give sarcastic feedback to those who post innocent questions? Thanks for replying, but no thanks for the sarcasm. I have a Ph.D., yet do not live my live in forums. I apologized when I wrote, as I assumed I probably would offend some people with my simple question.

I still do not see any 'post new reply', but who cares? If you can help, please help. If you just want to fight with people, go to a bar!

Okay, new MBP cannot use a 1 TB EVO SSD. How about new MBA? Possible or not?

if not, then game over, thanks very much, I will have to resell the SSD.
 
Thanks so far. Do people just LIVE to give sarcastic feedback to those who post innocent questions? Thanks for replying, but no thanks for the sarcasm. I have a Ph.D., yet do not live my live in forums. I apologized when I wrote, as I assumed I probably would offend some people with my simple question.

I still do not see any 'post new reply', but who cares? If you can help, please help. If you just want to fight with people, go to a bar!
Why the negative attitude? There was nothing in my post even mildly meant as offensive? I simply answered your questions?

Okay, new MBP cannot use a 1 TB EVO SSD. How about new MBA? Possible or not?
As written above, not possible.
 
1 TB SSD in MBA?

Bummer. Thanks very much for the honest and quick reply!

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My comment was directed at your comment here:

There's a big New Thread button at the top of each sub forum.
 
Okay, new MBP cannot use a 1 TB EVO SSD. How about new MBA? Possible or not?

Just to clarify, you can use that SSD in the standard MacBook Pro, just not the Retina MBP or the Air models. The older, standard MBP is still for sale new in the Apple Store.

On the far left here for $1,199 from the MBP page in the store. Your SSD is a direct fit replacement for the drive that comes with that machine.

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The attached test results are on my 2012 rMBP's SATA-bsed SSD and on a Samsung 840 EVO 1TB I just put into a Inateck FEU3NS-1E enclosure. The two drives basically now have the same read/write performance.

I first connected the Samsung SSD with a Crucial cloning cable USB3-SATA to format the SSD. I did run the speed test and the results were just over 200MBs for read and write. So moving to the Inateck enclosure that uses UASP basically doubled the performance compared to a dumb cable running older BOT mode.
 

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