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I bought a Late 2011 13" MacBook Pro i7, about a month ago. I ordered a Samsung 830 256GB SSD and I want to install it before OSX 10.8 is released.

What is the best way to transfer the OS/data from my current HDD to the new SSD?

Best is arguable, but this worked for me:

I did the same thing to the exact model on Friday. I'd only had it about a week so basically not much on it. I used CCC to clone over to the Samsung. Switched boot drive to the SSD and booted from there to make sure it worked, tested what few apps I'd installed. Left them open, restarted again, just to admire the speed (385/505). Shut down, swapped the drives. Done and good to go. I put the 750 HDD in an external enclosure, but use a 2TB for media.
 
Hey guys, sort of new here. I just have a couple quick questions...

I bought a Late 2011 13" MacBook Pro i7, about a month ago. I ordered a Samsung 830 256GB SSD and I want to install it before OSX 10.8 is released.

What is the best way to transfer the OS/data from my current HDD to the new SSD? I do have a 1TB external drive I can use for any transfer/backup needed. What program did you guys use to clone your information and transfer it to the new drive?

I know these are questions covered before and I apologize for bringing them up again, however, I'm new to OSX.

Thanks!

Mine arrives today or tomorrow, and I will do the same.
See this youtube video
 
It has been pointed out, but the actual write speed is around 256 MB/sec, not 220. A 7200 RPM hard disk may do 123MB/sec in sustained write in some benchmark, but given it has huge seek time and latency compared to any SSD, it's performance is far lower than the M4 in normal workloads that don't involve writing gigabytes at a time. Typical best performance with 7200 RPM Hitachi and Seagate drives in MBP is more like 40-50 MB/sec according to iStat in my experience.

Also in typical use the split between read and write on a desktop or laptop is something like 95% read and 5% write. Since M4 and others have the same read speed, there's not going to be much difference. The only thing that would actually be any faster is sustained large volume writes, which is not something that most users do constantly.

Benchmarks are a good thing in many ways but they lead people to make massive assumptions based on headline speeds that don't correspond to real use. And the M4 is cheaper, which for some people will mean they can get a bigger one than they would have otherwise. Also you can update the firmware on a Mac.

I'm glad you are happy with your choice and knowing that you have the fastest is worth something, but for most people if you did a blind test in their own machine with their own normal use, they wouldn't be able to tell them apart. Right now I would probably go with the fastest too, but I'm not on a budget so the price isn't an issue. For a lot of people it is, though, especially as it's not much of a difference in real world performance.

I certainly can't argue with any of that.. I guess my main point was that there are faster drives than the M4 @ the same price or less. Like the Transcend and OCZ. Actually the OCZ is @ $369.99 for the 512GB and it has a 410 MB/s Write.
 
hahahahaha..... I have caved in! My Agility 4 was still on pre-order, so out of fear of it not working well I just cancelled it and ordered the Samsung 830. It's over 100 pounds more but still less then the Vertex 4 and obviously a lot more reliable.

And as I see you can update the Samsungs firmware through bootcamp, that suits me just fine too.

Still not sure when it will arrive though :( by the weekend with any luck.

It is the slightly slower version but still I only have Sata 2. Plus I think peace of mind of having no hassles is a great comfort.


So I have one question, do I have to use the size adapter bracket it comes with as it's only 7mm thick?
 
Thanks, are people enabling trim as well on the Samsungs?

- Some are, some are not. I have seen no reports of problems with TRIM on the 830.
I plan on buying this drive in the near future, and I will run it without TRIM first (to have a basis of comparison), and then enable TRIM after a few days. If there is no difference or a positive difference I will leave it on. If it causes problems, I will switch it off again.

You may want to have a look at The Samsung 830 SSD thread. There's a lot of good information in it.
 
- Some are, some are not. I have seen no reports of problems with TRIM on the 830.
I plan on buying this drive in the near future, and I will run it without TRIM first (to have a basis of comparison), and then enable TRIM after a few days. If there is no difference or a positive difference I will leave it on. If it causes problems, I will switch it off again.

You may want to have a look at The Samsung 830 SSD thread. There's a lot of good information in it.

Plus one for you sir! I totally forgot about that thread. Thanks a million for reminding me :) I'll have a read through it.
 
I'm looking for a HDD to superdrive adapter for my late 07 15" macbook pro. Does such a thing exist?

d13go posted earlier in the thread showing an adapter but it may be in a 17" pro, which I can find an adapter for but I haven't found one for the 15"

model: MA895LL
 
- Hmm... If Samsung's SSD installation video is to be believed, "Samsung SSDs come with all the parts you need to upgrade your laptop" and is "provided [with a] USB-SATA Kit". They make no mention of a difference between the 3 different boxes that are sold.

Typical marketing. There are three versions:

Bare drive: Just the drive, no fancy add-ons
Desktop kit: Drive, 2.5" to 3.5" bracket, SATA power and data cables
Notebook kit: Drive, 7mm to 9.5mm spaces, SATA to USB adapter

I'm writing from my memory but those are the main differences from what I can remember.
 
Typical marketing. There are three versions:

Bare drive: Just the drive, no fancy add-ons
Desktop kit: Drive, 2.5" to 3.5" bracket, SATA power and data cables
Notebook kit: Drive, 7mm to 9.5mm spaces, SATA to USB adapter

I'm writing from my memory but those are the main differences from what I can remember.

You're correct. The Upgrade kits cost $20 more for the extras.

Anyways, I ordered the "bare drive" kit without the USB to SATA cable. However, I do have an WD external USB HDD. Can I use that to clone my Mac HD to and boot from that after the SSD is install? Then clone the fron the external HD to the SSD?

or is there a better process?
 
You're correct. The Upgrade kits cost $20 more for the extras.

Anyways, I ordered the "bare drive" kit without the USB to SATA cable. However, I do have an WD external USB HDD. Can I use that to clone my Mac HD to and boot from that after the SSD is install? Then clone the fron the external HD to the SSD?

or is there a better process?

That will work. Or you can take apart the external HD and put the SSD inside it, then clone the internal to that and just do the switch. If the external is easy to take apart, then that will be a faster way. Both way will work.
 
Typical marketing. There are three versions:

Bare drive: Just the drive, no fancy add-ons
Desktop kit: Drive, 2.5" to 3.5" bracket, SATA power and data cables
Notebook kit: Drive, 7mm to 9.5mm spaces, SATA to USB adapter

I'm writing from my memory but those are the main differences from what I can remember.

- If this turns out to be right when I receive my 830 SSD, Samsung's costumer support can look forward to a couple of kind words from me about their misleading marketing...
 
That will work. Or you can take apart the external HD and put the SSD inside it, then clone the internal to that and just do the switch. If the external is easy to take apart, then that will be a faster way. Both way will work.

You have to watch out because some WD externals such as the passports have changed from a internal sata connector to a WD propietory connector. I have an old 500GB passport so it worked for me but that last 1-2 gen's have changed. I guess WD caught on that their externals were the same price or cheaper then their 2.5" laptop drives and people were buying them instead.
 
- If this turns out to be right when I receive my 830 SSD, Samsung's costumer support can look forward to a couple of kind words from me about their misleading marketing...

oh stop it. it's implied that they come with everything you need if you buy the right kit.

You should sue them because they don't give you a phillips screwdriver too. :rolleyes:


You're correct. The Upgrade kits cost $20 more for the extras.

Anyways, I ordered the "bare drive" kit without the USB to SATA cable. However, I do have an WD external USB HDD. Can I use that to clone my Mac HD to and boot from that after the SSD is install? Then clone the fron the external HD to the SSD?

or is there a better process?


What are you planning on doing with your old drive? If you want an extra portable external drive, just buy a cheap usb 2.0 enclosure. I just got one for a friend for $7.

1. put ssd in enclosure
2. clone your mac
3. take ssd out of enclosure / put it in your mac
4. put old HDD in enclosure and use it as backup or as extra drive.

but yeah, you can just clone to your WD and then clone back. Shouldn't have any issues at all.
 
oh stop it. it's implied that they come with everything you need if you buy the right kit.

You should sue them because they don't give you a phillips screwdriver too. :rolleyes:

- I disagree. I think it is stated in no uncertain terms that Samsung SSDs come with a USB-SATA cable regardless of model or packaging.
Now, I haven't ordered the SSD yet, so at least it won't be a surprise for me to find that there is no USB-SATA cable in the box, but I still plan on expressing my dissatisfaction with their video.
If I hadn't read about SSDs here on MacRumors, how would I know that I won't get a USB-SATA cable when I buy the SSD? Looking exclusively at the video, one gets the clear impression that these cables are supplied with all Samsung SSDs.

I have no reason to believe that there is a screwdriver included with the SSD, so that's a different matter altogether.
 
I have no reason to believe that there is a screwdriver included with the SSD, so that's a different matter altogether.

Why not? The video says "everything you need."

Based on your logic, every samsung 830 ssd should include a screwdriver.
 
Why not? The video says "everything you need."

Based on your logic, every samsung 830 ssd should include a screwdriver.

- Nope. The nice lady in the video clearly states that you may have to supply a screwdriver yourself.
In any case, it's not so much the "everything you need" statement (which is vague and subjective) I take issue with. It is the clear (and apparently false) statement that Samsung SSDs come with a "provided USB-SATA cable" that I don't like...
 
I'm guessing TRIM won't be active when I upgrade to 10.8 from 10.7 as it will rewrite the system tech stuff, do you think they will be a new process to make it work or will the old one still work?
 
I'm guessing TRIM won't be active when I upgrade to 10.8 from 10.7 as it will rewrite the system tech stuff, do you think they will be a new process to make it work or will the old one still work?

Mountain Lion beta users have reported the same method works with Mountain Lion.
 
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