SSD in a G4 cube? Here's a bracket!

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  1. didius macrumors newbie

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    I want to upgrade my G4 cube and put a SSD drive in it.

    Fitting the drive and it's SATA-IDE adapter isn't that easy because of the Cube's compactness. Which led me to design a bracket, download it on thingiverse ;). It fit's the cube nicely, both bottom and topbracket.

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    PS: I also made an Radeon 7500 bracket for the cube.
     
  2. ivanwi11iams Contributor

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    ...rather impressive that. And, it fits nicely and connects properly, too?
     
  3. Gamer9430 macrumors 68020

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    I may have to do that! Get a cheap SSD (since the cubes don't support HDD sizes over 120GB), 3D print your adapter, and then I'll have a speedy and truly silent cube! What is the name of that SATA-IDE Adapter? It seems to fit so perfectly.
     
  4. didius, Jul 9, 2016
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    didius thread starter macrumors newbie

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    @afctee: yes, it connects properly, I adjusted the design over and over until I get a perfect fit :)

    @Gamer9430 : I've added a link on thingiverse, some adapter like ebay.
     
  5. CooperBox macrumors 6502a

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    Now this really interests me in order to rejuvenate my 1.2Ghz Cube.
    Must confess I don't know the first thing about 3D printers, but noticed a new store opened in town, specializing in this field. Had a brief chat to the guy, who confirmed they make one-off pieces for clients. Said that if I showed him the file he'd check it out and give me a quote. A somewhat similar item in terms of size was on display in the store, which he said took about 3hrs to make, and he charges approx 10euros (US$11) per hour.
    A few quick questions:
    i) Am I right in thinking that approx 30euros ($34) sounds excessive for such a 3D printed adapter bracket?
    ii) Has anyone had this exact model made by a high-street 3D printing store? If so, approx price?
    iii) Is there anyone here in Europe (or elsewhere) interested in making several in order to reduce costs?
     
  6. didius thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Hi CooperBox,
    There's a big chance I'll update the model a bit to make it fit easier. The connection with the IDE-connector of the Cube itsself is very tight. Using the 'smaller' adapters I should be able to make it an easier fit.
    www.benl.ebay.be/itm/201401876931

    As far as to printing services, I think "3D-printing stores" are really for professionals (architects, ingeneers, etc..) Hobbiyst can use www.3dhubs.com
    There you can get consumer 3D printer owners to print your stuff, that should be cheaper.

    As far to answer your questions:
    i) I think that's fairly steep, probably they also charge a start-up cost. Depends on the material as well, PLA or ABS? (or other?)
    ii) I think the price for a professional print would be pretty steep, it would consist of perfect edges, no printer markings on the print itself. In short: a high quality item (which looks stunning). A non-professional print would not have this 'perfect' finish, and be rougher at the edges, but who cares. The bracket is not visible anyway.
    iii) Hehe, I live in Belgium :) If I would print it, i think the bracket would cost less than €5 in materials and electricity (mostly electricity). Could try to calculate it, but this is a gut-feeling-cost.

    Remember the Parism brackets for another optical drive installment, it would be fairly easy to design this and make an open-source 3D-modal for this. Even the spirica heatsinks (for VRM, or graphic cards) could be transformed into a open-source 3D-modal (but those would have to be cnc'ed out of metal). To bad these open source technologies got a bit to late into the party. Cube modding would have been completly different if the 3D-printing technology was as develop as it is today.
     
  7. Dannyshing27 macrumors regular

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    very nice, I have a K8200 and a kossel mini printer so I may give it a shot!
     
  8. cube macrumors G5

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    A proper bracket for 2.5" has existed for years, but it is not widely available.
     
  9. CooperBox, Aug 11, 2016
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    CooperBox macrumors 6502a

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    Many thanks for your comments. Please keep me advised if you should update your model to facilitate installation. As to the most suitable, durable 3D material for such a bracket - PLA or ABS?
    Regarding you last paragraph, it was only after 'googing' that I understood your reference to the Parism brackets. I note from the CubeOwners site that the particular bracket was offered some 10 years or so ago, and not surprisingly now marked sold/discontinued.
    I'd also like to get my hands on a superdrive optical drive adapter for the Cube. CubeOwners don't appear to have much updated info on this since 2013, so would anyone have any idea on current sourcing for such a bracket.?
    --- Post Merged, Aug 11, 2016 ---
    Interesting. Any further info on current sourcing?
     
  10. cube macrumors G5

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    I saw the adapter many years ago. I think it was a Taiwanese company, maybe more industrial-oriented.
     
  11. CooperBox, Nov 18, 2016
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    CooperBox macrumors 6502a

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    Hi , I'd be interested to know if you ever updated your G4 Cube SSD installation bracket, and if it was a definite improvement. If so I'd be interested in purchasing one.
    (I've been trying to give my Cube a little t.l.c of late, and an SSD installation is definitely planned).
     
  12. claesjanwolff macrumors newbie

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    What 2.5 ssd (sata, msata) is it you bought?
    I saw several 120 gb ssd for sale with different specs...
     
  13. Arthur_Swart macrumors newbie

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    Just wondering what the current status on the bracket is. I live about two steps from then NL/BE border, would love to get one and revamp my 1.7GHz Cube. Will travel for a EUR 5,00 bracket offer...
     
  14. CooperBox macrumors 6502a

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    I never got around to installing an SSD in mine for the same reason, i.e. finding a suitable bracket. The specific OWC bracket & adapter would have been phased out years ago.
    Reading between the lines of this person's fix he probably attached the adapter/SSD assy with something like velcro. Your 1.7GHz Cube - like my 1.2GHz, will certainly have an added cooling fan, so it's not adviseable to leave anything hanging loose in the breeze.
    If you eventually find a reasonable solution, please post it here.
     
  15. Arthur_Swart macrumors newbie

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    Got my hands on an IDE:CF card adapter that will take two CF cards. And I found a dual msd card adapter that slots into an CF adapter. So now I can use four msd cards that will attach to the same IDE connector. Given the 120Gb issue with the Cube, I am going to try and get it working with a single 64Gb msd card. If that works, adding three more will be easy. The speed will probably not be fantastic, IDE has its limits. But it will improve the overall temperature of the device and 256Gb solid state memory is kinda cool for a Cube. I think four 64Gb msd cards will do the job just fine, I might even go for the 512Gb video card I decided not to get a few years back.
     
  16. amagichnich macrumors regular

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    Are they also recognized as different drives or is it a more like a RAID?
     
  17. jbarley macrumors 68030

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    Any chance of a link or a name for this 512GB card?
    I'm curious and would like to learn more about it.
     
  18. Arthur_Swart macrumors newbie

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    The 512 seems to have disappeared from eBay. Found this one: Ebay item nr 262696509186 which is a very nice 256Mb for only € 70,00. I'm fairly sure it's the seller that also offered the 512Mb card, I'll give him a ring.
     
  19. Arthur_Swart macrumors newbie

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    Probably 4*64. You could make a softraid if you want.
     

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