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the new release is embarrassingly buggy. For example, open a folder from the dock and 90% of the screen is dimmed. Can’t tap in the regular 10% area, so have to tap in the oversized box area.

there’s two problems here. One, no way to miss this bug. no way. ..it’s tapping on your dock and opening a folder. And yet apple shipped it anyway.

and how did this bug get created in the first place? It’s not like apple changed the dock in iOS 16.
I thought it was just me after updating kid's iPad mini (5th gen). and opening a folder from the dock. Saw the same thing.
 
Why Apple won't just bring macOS to the iPad I'll just never know. The iPad hardware is clearly powerful enough to run macOS. There is no reason to run a mobile OS on a tablet with an M1 chip.
Because touch OS's are fundamentally different from mouse OS's, and doing both means not doing either one well. Apple's right on this point, they just aren't executing well.
 
I just tried Stage Manager on my M1 Air earlier today after upgrading to Ventura. I have to say, I'm not impressed. I can't see how this could possibly improve my workflow. It basically just takes up screen real estate for nothing.

Perhaps it's more useful on a more limited iPad, but I do not have a supported model.
 
It is so buggy and useless on the iPad. It’s embarrasing that Apple even shipped this. There is something wrong with their QA if they think this is a shipping product (at least it is OFF by default.)
 
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I had to disable it after giving it a try in Ventura. I don't know if it's just the multiple monitors or what but I had windows jumping all over the place when recalled and sometimes I could even recall a window group. I think with time it could be a nice feature but it does feel very buggy and half-baked right now.
 
I'm struggling to find a need for it on MacOS. What problems does it solve, or help with?

It also feels janky, windows jumping around.

The loss of real estate isn't great either. That must be worse on an iPad.


It's telling that Apple disabled it by default.
 
Was very disappointed to find out yesterday that external display support isn't functioning.

I was looking forward to leaving my 16" MBP at the office most nights and just getting small work tasks done on the iPad. To date, that hasn't really been possible since my work flow is a lot of multi window use at any one time. I thought Stage Manager would be enough to get me by with my iPP at night, but alas, it still doesn't work.
 
I would give it an honest try if you could position the windows any way you wanted to. The auto-moving it so it remains on screen and always trying to "fix" the position or the size makes it incredibly annoying.
 
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Apple now does most of their software development overseas to save on cost... and anyone who has any meaningful experience in software development knows that's a death sentence for quality.
i’d like to ask two questions…
#1: where on earth is your source for this? Because I’ve been searching, and… Nothing.
#2: why would you even think this slightly to be true? Software development is software development, no matter where it’s taking place
 
I want to add that I was looking forward to this feature but I only lasted a day.

It seems messy. The tab bar on the left takes up a good chunk of screen space and rearranging windows seems buggy.

What a bummer. But at least we can uh, pause a YouTube video to extract text from it..🤷‍♂️
 
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It is super buggy on iPad but I can see how it could be useful. On Mac it's slightly less buggy but also less useful. I like having a better place to minimize apps, but it's just so inconsistent. It's hard to figure out how to get things where I want them and have them stay there.
 
While there seem To be rough edges, he’s trying to use it too much as a mac …it’s not a mac. He should just use a mac. Other videos I’ve seen stage manager looks not as buggy as he makes it. A lot of his problems stem from using a keyboard. Which apple needs to fix. But iPad is a touch first device
 
This are examples of gaps in the apple experience. My first couple of iPhones are their software were solid, no bugs, no crashing apps, no keyboards getting stuck mid screen, etc. The robust and stability of their software is greatly lacking the past few versions. Less focus on TV shows and more focus on what products people are actually wanting to buy from them.
 
Disappointing that a company many admire for its clean, polished software decided to release an unpolished and bug-ridden feature
 
I guess I'm the only one enjoying stage manager on iPad. It's pretty neat to be able to group running apps by focus and seamlessly switch around. Sizing them to your liking is not too bad either. All of it on my old iPad Pro. Sure, saw a bug here and there but I'm sure it'll get fixed.

I like it how Apple is trying to come up with a multitasking paradigm without the shackles of the desktop. Not that there's anything wrong with desktop, we've had that forever, but SM allows to put running apps in containers that don't get messed up if you move things around.
 
All I wanted was external monitor support on the iPad so I could throw apps up on a bigger screen. That’s MIA though. I’ve already got a weird bug where the dock vanished from the app cluster. Also why doesn’t clicking on the wallpaper at the edge of the screen bring the springboard up? I have to swipe up to get back to it, really unintuitive to have half a desktop paradigm and forget the desktop part. All the apps selected cluster together in a way that’s totally unknown until you click on them again. It’s like someone designed a macOS clone having only heard it described it over the phone.

Rant over ;)

I feel Apple should have kept this one in the oven until iPadOS 17.
 
So are we still saying WFH isn’t effecting their products and services or are we still denying there’s a problem with quality
The problem with quality started long before that, and you know it. It started when Apple started prioritizing purple hair over qualifications during the interview process.
Wow!
Just wow.
First, “ it’s because software development at Apple is now overseas so it sucks.”
Then, “it’s those lazy bums doing software development (software development, literally working on a computer all day) that’s the reason for the bugs. If only they were working on that *exact same* computer, but in an office, it would be just absolutely perfect.
Now it’s because they care about “purple hair” whatever that means, instead of actual software development qualifications.
So… which is it?
Or, is it simply a feature that was a good idea, that got rushed out before it was ready. Just like dozens of features before it. Just like dozens of OS updates over the past several decades, made everywhere around the world, by people of all different hair colors, in all sorts of buildings.
 
stage manager - the most overhyped feature that is not that good to begin with.
Its amazing how little progress we get in software these days.
 
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