Even though stage manager on iPad is rough around the edges, I still think it's the right path forward and I commend Apple for not being lazy by simply copying the window management of Mac or Windows. That would be the easy thing to do. Apple has some of the most talented people working for them and I want them to brainstorm new ways to do window management.
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Stage Manager Criticized as 'Poorly Tested' Feature With 'Plethora of Bugs' Still Unfixed as iPadOS 16 Released
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I suspect it's a lot more of a "this looks technologically advanced and will wow reviewers and would-be buyers" rather than something that is functionally enhancing for most actual users.
A feature driven by marketing, if you will.
Mission Control >> Stage Mangler
I agree. Stage Manager has a very long way to go and its implementation in iPadOS is botched, half assed and poorly executed, but it’s still better than being forced to use Full Screen with everything with a half assed Split View and Slide Over. Apple needs to go back to the drawing board and fix the foundational flaws, and it’s probably going to take a very long time to polish it
Of all the things they could be working on and fixing…
And to think they’ve been wasting so much engineering time on this nonsense ”feature”
And to think they’ve been wasting so much engineering time on this nonsense ”feature”
I can't believe Samsung got a better implementation of multitasking. They just made a split-view on steroids, no need to re-invent the wheel.
This is what they need to do.
They need to eat the humble pie and do the to work to make a touch friendly, device scalable, macOS, and let’s all move on here
iPadOS ain’t it
It is good that they are working towards better window management on the iPad, but Stage Manager is fundamentally flawed. To 'fix' it would essentially necessitate starting from scratch.
What I don't understand is why you would want to take a screen that is already fairly compact (9 to 12 inches) and essentially create lots of empty space on the Home Screen and reduce the size of the app windows, just so that you can have a few apps open simultaneously. This works on a Mac because the screens are larger and the input device - a pointer - is more precise.
Stage manager has been the biggest "Turd" ¿¿invented?? by Apple which makes no sense. Why the f should I give up empty space on my iPad screen? the current bottom dock serves the exact same purpose which Stage Manager does on the side. It's like switching from Windows bottom taskbar to Ubuntu's left oriented taskbar.
Clearly, Apple wasted so many Man-hours coding this turd which could have been better utilized for:
1. Providing a proper (but secure) file system accessible via USB cable for easy files transfer on iPadOS and iOS.
2. Giving Atmos and DTS passthrough on TVOS for kickass media center experience.
3. Provide same lockscreen wallpaper experience on iPadOS as available on iOS.
4. Better custom re-arranging icons so I can leave blank spots.
5. iPadOS battery health percentage.
Clearly, Apple wasted so many Man-hours coding this turd which could have been better utilized for:
1. Providing a proper (but secure) file system accessible via USB cable for easy files transfer on iPadOS and iOS.
2. Giving Atmos and DTS passthrough on TVOS for kickass media center experience.
3. Provide same lockscreen wallpaper experience on iPadOS as available on iOS.
4. Better custom re-arranging icons so I can leave blank spots.
5. iPadOS battery health percentage.
Same. It felt like a second Dock with only running apps in it. I didn't really see the point. The Dock does everything it does, and more.
It looks like it's impossible to stack windows from different apps when it's enabled, and it tries by default to consume like 20% of the left side of the screen with wasted space for nothing. That part can at least be fixed by making it hide behind the edge of the screen.
Oh good... I was thinking I was thinking I was the only one...
I'm usually great at adopting new tools and features, but Stage Manager seems like a solution (a bad one at that) in search of a problem.
I'm usually great at adopting new tools and features, but Stage Manager seems like a solution (a bad one at that) in search of a problem.
Geez, I guess I am the only one loving Stage Manager on Mac and iPad and haven't had any issues so far.
Tried it for about 5 mins then turned it off never to be used or thought of again. Utter garbage.
I find this hilarious. When Microsoft tried to do this for Windows RT years ago... they received so much backlash.
Apple approach is to make two different operating system... one touch based and the other driven by mouse, but every Mac user here is complaining "hey just put macOS on an iPad." But as a an iPad user.. I do not want macOS on an iPad. If I wanted macOS... I'll buy a Mac smh.
Besides being buggy Stage Manager on iPadOS has 4 big issues in terms of implementation (Assuming you make the zoom far out in settings and hide the doc):
1. I want windows to be placed wherever I want, don't give me restricted freedom. Snap should only happen if I drag the window to a corner or to the edge of the screen.
2. The window management pane on the left should pop in and out more intuitively. Or don't do it automatically at all let me the user control it with a gesture, cursor, or keyboard shortcut). Otherwise it takes up room on the screen and sometimes wont go away when I want a larger window.
3. When stage manager is on the window management pane in Stage Manager should be rectified/combined with the same multi tasking pane you get from the swipe/hold functionality you get to quit apps.
4. The current lack of external monitor support
1. I want windows to be placed wherever I want, don't give me restricted freedom. Snap should only happen if I drag the window to a corner or to the edge of the screen.
2. The window management pane on the left should pop in and out more intuitively. Or don't do it automatically at all let me the user control it with a gesture, cursor, or keyboard shortcut). Otherwise it takes up room on the screen and sometimes wont go away when I want a larger window.
3. When stage manager is on the window management pane in Stage Manager should be rectified/combined with the same multi tasking pane you get from the swipe/hold functionality you get to quit apps.
4. The current lack of external monitor support
It’s worse on iPad. On Mac it seemed at least usable to me, although I still prefer cmd+tab and Mission Control to manage my windows.
On iPad, it completely screwed with the established user interface.
I agree in part. Copying Windows or macOS window management would not be the right path forward. The biggest problem with stage manager is that it too stays from how an iPad (touchscreen) interface should work. It messes up the established iPadOS user interface. It would be better to be able to create “stages“ that could be independently treated like fullscreen apps from the multitasking view, while leaving the rest of your apps full screen. You could add or remove apps from a stage while all you other apps function like normal.
I like the thought, I'm sure the people that worked on it put the effort in, but it doesn't work great. I've used it on an11-inch iPad Pro 2018 a few times when I needed more than one app (the like two times that's happened) and it's nice to have but not a feature that should define the iPad experience.
I know this is my use case, but I like the iPad because of the focus it offers me. I could use my iPad even more if all the apps did what I need them to do. Instead of spending the time on something like this, it feels like it would be better to bring more feature parity to app developers between iPadOS and macOS. I would love to have all the features in the iPad apps I use that their Mac counterparts have instead of a split experience.
But that's just me. I'm glad to have it, but it doesn't change much of the experience most the time.
I know this is my use case, but I like the iPad because of the focus it offers me. I could use my iPad even more if all the apps did what I need them to do. Instead of spending the time on something like this, it feels like it would be better to bring more feature parity to app developers between iPadOS and macOS. I would love to have all the features in the iPad apps I use that their Mac counterparts have instead of a split experience.
But that's just me. I'm glad to have it, but it doesn't change much of the experience most the time.
The lack of the traffic light buttons on iPadOS is the big problem, and the fact it's still emulating touch controls on mouse. It's a farcry from DeX mode on Androids.
I think it's great on the iPad so far. It's vastly superior to the standard method of multitasking.
They should just release barebones windowing support like that of the (unfortunately iOS5- and JB-only) Quasar. It would be everything we'd need for multiwindow support and would require absolutely NO learning as it's as intuitive as MacOS.