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Ok, this one is confusing me. How are they sure enough for July orders that they can narrow the window, but still not be sure enough about the June deliveries to narrow those?

Even if they want to allow themselves some allowance with June, why wouldnt they leave themselves the same with July?

Normally I can come up with some explanation that is at least plausible, but this one has me stumped.

Im sure there are some Apple engineers that are involved in the process that are at least watching the thread - maybe they just enjoy messing with us.. :)

It is getting kind of frustrating having a generic June window. Oh well. It's coming just don't know when.
 
Don't worry those dates aren't too accurate. My June 38mm updated to 4-6 weeks and end of June in the deliver by dates don't remember exact dates but something like June 22-29 or something. This was when I got the email from Apple saying 3-4 weeks on 5/7. Stayed like that for a few weeks then switched to 4-6 days yesterday and is PFS today. So the 38 is coming almost a month before the original deliver by date. No clue how the 42 will move but that was my experience with 38. If you get an email from Apple saying your watch should ship in the next x-xx weeks that email was dead on and it shipped on pretty much exactly 3 rd week to the day so beginning of that window.

Heh. The 38's are shipping WAY faster as there were nowhere near as many ordered. We've seen that across the board - the 38's are much further ahead in terms of order confirmations than the 42's.

Hopefully Apple gets enough 38mm stock warehoused that they change those production lines over to 42's to bridge the gap quicker.

You really have to feel for the countries that haven't been launched yet - until this backlog is relieved, there's no way in hell Apple can expand the orders.

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It is getting kind of frustrating having a generic June window. Oh well. It's coming just don't know when.

I think you should be glad. It could very well mean you get it in the next few days - no point in resetting your expectation...it's coming soon. That's why I was hoping our July date wouldn't change. But then Apple had to go and level-set us. :(
 
My order's finally updated:

Processing Items Available to ship: 5-6 weeks
Delivers: 07 Jul, 2015 - 14 Jul, 2015 by Standard Shipping

Ordered 15th of April.

Nice to see some sort of change and 5-6 weeks isn't a very long time.

Sooo...why are all the "JULY" orders updating with actual dates, when the "JUNE" ones still staying JUNE?
 
Did anyone else notice 5-6 weeks isn't even the July 7th-14th, if I am counting right... I count 6-7 weeks depending on what date you as it off of.

42mm
Ordered: April 11th 9:30pm
Ready to ship on: July 7th - July 14th (5-6 weeks)
USA, Seattle
 
Did anyone else notice 5-6 weeks isn't even the July 7th-14th, if I am counting right... I count 6-7 weeks depending on what date you as it off of.

42mm
Ordered: April 11th 9:30pm
Ready to ship on: July 7th - July 14th (5-6 weeks)
USA, Seattle

Yep, 5 weeks from today is July 1st.

Ignore the rough estimate - use the date range they gave.
 
Did anyone else notice 5-6 weeks isn't even the July 7th-14th, if I am counting right... I count 6-7 weeks depending on what date you as it off of.

42mm
Ordered: April 11th 9:30pm
Ready to ship on: July 7th - July 14th (5-6 weeks)
USA, Seattle

If you notice is says "Available to Ship: 5-6 Weeks which would be July 1st thru July 8th, then it says Delivers 07 Jul, 2015 - 14 Jul, 2015 which would be 4-5 business days from the available date via Standard Shipping.
 
I think it's because of geographies (and their SKU's). Each country will have it's own SKU (if we didn't have two languages in Canada, they likely could have used the same SKU for Canada as the US,

But US 42mm's are moving from July to a specific July range. See #6371 for one in NY..

My June is still just June..
 
Just got on line to see the bad news. Not the early delivery window I was hopping for.

42 SBSS
Ordered 4/25
Ship date now 7/7 to 7/14
 
But US 42mm's are moving from July to a specific July range. See #6371 for one in NY..

My June is still just June..

Right, but see my reply to Paint2215 at noon. All of the "June"'s that have been charged, none had their window changes before they were. You guys changing should be a good sign that Apple doesn't need to level-set you - you're likely getting your watches very soon (i.e., in the next week I'd say).
 
Right, but see my reply to Paint2215 at noon. All of the "June"'s that have been charged, none had their window changes before they were. You guys changing should be a good sign that Apple doesn't need to level-set you - you're likely getting your watches very soon (i.e., in the next week I'd say).

I still think Tim and the queue management team are sitting in a room pointing at the bigscreen scrolling macrumours posts and everyone does a shot each time a post says "window".
 
I FINALLY got a shipping window as opposed to just "July":

Processing Items Available to ship: 5-6 weeks
Delivers: 06/07/2015 - 13/07/2015 by Standard Shipping
Cancel Items
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Apple Watch 42mm Space Black Stainless Steel Case with Space Black Link Bracelet

Ordered from Australia 22 April

This is great news! We know that June watches have already been moving, but moving a "July" SSSB to June + 2 weeks in July means that Apple is officially committing to getting use our watches a week or two early then they thought. This isn't a change from a day ago but it is an official signal from Apple that there is nothing wrong with the SSSB production, and they have a handle on the speed at which they can produce it. It is an oddly wide window, but if we assume averages it means that many july watches will come late june or early july, so we could be through the "Junes" in the next 2 weeks.

This is of course a flaming ball of assumptions, but what else is there to do.

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Methinks Apple is cray-cray... How can they lock down a window for people in July...when here I sit still with "Processing Items Available to Ship: June"...

Maybe lots of Julys have been cancelling.
 
This is great news! We know that June watches have already been moving, but moving a "July" SSSB to June + 2 weeks in July means that Apple is officially committing to getting use our watches a week or two early then they thought. This isn't a change from a day ago but it is an official signal from Apple that there is nothing wrong with the SSSB production, and they have a handle on the speed at which they can produce it. It is an oddly wide window, but if we assume averages it means that many july watches will come late june or early july, so we could be through the "Junes" in the next 2 weeks.

I think you're reading it wrong, if he was from the US it would read...

Delivers 07/06/2015 - 07/13/2015.

So it didn't move to June, just a week in July.
 
The feel is that they are making our watch SBSS to order. It makes you wonder if they will ever have it in the stores once they catch up. Or will it always be made to order with a handful of warehouse stock or limited stores like the edition.
 
Heh. The 38's are shipping WAY faster as there were nowhere near as many ordered. We've seen that across the board - the 38's are much further ahead in terms of order confirmations than the 42's.

Hopefully Apple gets enough 38mm stock warehoused that they change those production lines over to 42's to bridge the gap quicker.

You really have to feel for the countries that haven't been launched yet - until this backlog is relieved, there's no way in hell Apple can expand the orders.

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I think you should be glad. It could very well mean you get it in the next few days - no point in resetting your expectation...it's coming soon. That's why I was hoping our July date wouldn't change. But then Apple had to go and level-set us. :(

Yep for sure, the 38s will move at different rates but what I think you can take from it is the accuracy of the different time frames they give. If the delivers date was so far off for 38 I wouldn't assume it's accurate for 42 but more of an improvement in worse case. Since the email was right on, I would believe that if they send one etc...
 
Ordered mine May 15 and just got my broad "July" window updated to 5-6 weeks with a window between July 9-16...looks like they're continuing to pump them out at an increased rate...it's starting to look good for people who got there orders in late like me who couldn't decide which watch to go with and kept canceling and re-ordering...#
 
Ordered mine May 15 and just got my broad "July" window updated to 5-6 weeks with a window between July 9-16...looks like they're continuing to pump them out at an increased rate...it's starting to look good for people who got there orders in late like me who couldn't decide which watch to go with and kept canceling and re-ordering...#

Hmm. Which size and which country are you in? I ordered before you and my window's a day later. Just a little odd.
 
I think you're reading it wrong, if he was from the US it would read...

Delivers 07/06/2015 - 07/13/2015.

So it didn't move to June, just a week in July.

I was looking at the 5-6 weeks part mentioned, but I did misunderstand the window. Still, that windows still makes all the other inferences valid, just not for the US maybe :(
 
Ordered mine May 15 and just got my broad "July" window updated to 5-6 weeks with a window between July 9-16...looks like they're continuing to pump them out at an increased rate...it's starting to look good for people who got there orders in late like me who couldn't decide which watch to go with and kept canceling and re-ordering...#
This sure makes Apple look bad. Some of its best customers and supporters ordered on 4/10 and are going to get their watch when others who ordered over a month later do.

Not right!
 
Hmm. Which size and which country are you in? I ordered before you and my window's a day later. Just a little odd.

42mm. Baton Rouge, Louisiana US

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I was looking at the 5-6 weeks part mentioned, but I did misunderstand the window. Still, that windows still makes all the other inferences valid, just not for the US maybe :(

Yes. Haha. Still in July but just with a more specific window. Surprisingly in the middle of July...I thought surely I would get it the very last day of July considering I didn't get my order in till Mid May
 
This sure makes Apple look bad. Some of its best customers and supporters ordered on 4/10 and are going to get their watch when others who ordered over a month later do.

Not right!
I see this as meaning 2 things:
1) They have considerably increased the amount watches shipped which means they entirely solved all production issues and they will be able to supply more watches at an increased rate
2) the number of orders from "d-day" to the day I ordered or even today have significantly dropped off to the point where orders from then and orders from May will be supplied close to the same dates. This meaning they caught up with demand enough to supply all these orders at even a month apart from each other at the same time.
3) This is all good news. These are signs that they are over estimating future shipping time frames and supplying the watches even before the shipping windows provided

I realize none of what I said gets people their watches today. But I definitely see it as great news. We all may see our watches on our wrist sooner than we expect.
 
I see this as meaning 2 things:
1) They have considerably increased the amount watches shipped which means they entirely solved all production issues and they will be able to supply more watches at an increased rate
2) the number of orders from "d-day" to the day I ordered or even today have significantly dropped off to the point where orders from then and orders from May will be supplied close to the same dates. This meaning they caught up with demand enough to supply all these orders at even a month apart from each other at the same time.
3) This is all good news. These are signs that they are over estimating future shipping time frames and supplying the watches even before the shipping windows provided

I realize none of what I said gets people their watches today. But I definitely see it as great news. We all may see our watches on our wrist sooner than we expect.

It's the nature of the beast. Early adopters bombed the servers in those opening minutes, and then quickly tapered off. So I'd say that the amount of sales per minute after the first 12-15 minutes are exponentially less than in those opening minutes. Though with the peculiarity of the internet, X:06 to X:07 could be going so slow because it could be the biggest slot. Had I prepared my payment method and been quicker I would have been X:07 instead of X:10. I also didn't think that those extra minutes would be so damned important.

For now I am going to try to sign off this thread as the real world is beckoning.

All I know is that this launch makes me think of the song "New York, I Love You But You're Bringing Me Down" But I'm replacing New York with Apple.

Someone creative make us an Apple Watch parody of it. It's true, I love Apple but they actively work to keep my feelings in check by abusing me whenever they release a new device.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eohHwsplvY
 
Mine updated today too. I ordered at 3am (was on holiday in NYC so couldn't wake the wife up to order a watch if I wanted to live to see it arrive;)) and mine has updated to 5-6 weeks, July 7th - 14th. Annoying that people who ordered it days after I did are getting the same notice.. Also, I go on holiday on the 11th so if it doesn't arrive in the first few days I'm going to be really upset.. Here is hoping they fulfil those orders earlier still!
 
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