Stand up feature is a joke. /Gimmick

mikezmac

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Ok, I had been wondering why the apple watch was not giving me credit for standing up when I was. I narrowed it down to when I was holding my coffee in the watch hand. Odd? Yes.... 100% of the time if my watch arm was at a 90 degree angle I did not receive credit.

Ok grey matter kicked in, yesterday and today when I got the stand up alert and I was sitting I did not stand, I let my arm hang down over the arm of the chair. I got standing credit while sitting, every time.

In fact the watch has 0 clue if you stand, it only knows if your arm is hanging down towards the floor.

For all of you unlucky sods that hold a book, notebook, drink, paper, anything in your watch hand, you will not get standing credit, you may even get asked to stand even though you are already standing.
 

HussRainbow

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Obviously the watch isn't smart enough to know you're actually standing, I guess it just encourages you to get up and move around. I've only been notified once to stand while I was actually standing, so I just went for a bit of a walk around the office. The watch isn't some genius robot... take it for what it is.
 

mikezmac

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You have to move for a full minute to get credit.
No, you don't. You can remain sitting and let your arm hand over the arm of the chair. As long as your arm is extended toward the ground and moving slightly you get full credit.
 

mikezmac

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Obviously the watch isn't smart enough to know you're actually standing, I guess it just encourages you to get up and move around. I've only been notified once to stand while I was actually standing, so I just went for a bit of a walk around the office. The watch isn't some genius robot... take it for what it is.
Agreed, however I cannot hold anything in the watch hand, at an angle, like reading a book, paper, coffee, beer, whatever. It won't register unless the watch hand is pointing down, regardless if you're sitting or standing.

:(
 

HussRainbow

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Agreed, however I cannot hold anything in the watch hand, at an angle, like reading a book, paper, coffee, beer, whatever. It won't register unless the watch hand is pointing down, regardless if you're sitting or standing.

:(
Yeah I guess thats a bit frustrating.... Although if I think about it, I hold most things in my right hand, so i've been ok so far..
 
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RiddlaBronc

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I thought it had something to do with the heart rate? I usually stand up and do some quick jumping jacks and it gives me credit after a few of then
 

flur

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No, you don't. You can remain sitting and let your arm hand over the arm of the chair. As long as your arm is extended toward the ground and moving slightly you get full credit.
Moving slightly? That sounds a lot like moving, LOL. Do that for a minute, and yeah, you get credit.
 
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mikezmac

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Yeah, healthwise that's how you'll get benefit. Keep doing that and you'll live longer than the OP with his slight moving arm. ;)
Since I found this out I get full credit (circle) every day now..
 

makotoisle

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Agreed, however I cannot hold anything in the watch hand, at an angle, like reading a book, paper, coffee, beer, whatever. It won't register unless the watch hand is pointing down, regardless if you're sitting or standing.

:(
This isn't true for me. Often times I get a stand-up notification whilst I'm reading on my iPad and I'll get up and pace around my flat, iPad in hand, until I get the points.
 

melman101

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I'm confused at what's trying to be accomplished. The device isn't magic. It's how you want to use it. If you don't like the feature, turn it off. No sense in trying to "game" the system if you feel it doesn't provide you any benefit.
 

Michael CM1

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I'm confused at what's trying to be accomplished. The device isn't magic. It's how you want to use it. If you don't like the feature, turn it off. No sense in trying to "game" the system if you feel it doesn't provide you any benefit.
"I bought a technology for money. It doesn't work 100 percent like I want it to. Let me rant about it on a message board because it should be perfect for $400 and sense all of my extremities."

Do people have to have performed a job dealing with the limitations of technology, science and just plain ol' rules of the universe to not expect perfection?

I find the feature quite useful, especially with a job that is mostly sitting at a computer. I've filled it every day except for my last day off -- it was last Wednesday, but I swear it feels like a month ago -- and when I didn't get credit one hour when I could've sworn I got up on I think Thursday. But it's got me standing up more during the day.

The workouts and activity apps also have me using my exercise bike a lot more. I thought my Fitbit would do that a couple of years ago, but it didn't. I mean it made me realize my step counts, but sometimes going for a walk isn't the type of exercise you want to do. I've got an indoor bike in front of my TV, so I've been using it some during shows and even a few hours ago watching the keynote from today. I was like "I'm just sitting here watching this. Hello, bike. If I ride you for a bit, I can make the green circle bigger." So I set it for 15 minutes and ended up going 20.

Is the watch perfect? No. I detailed getting calories psycho counted while driving in another thread. But it's so far the best fitness tracker I've seen and I found a new way to store some passwords and codes I often need on my watch behind a single passcode (with 1Password). This is before developers get their hands on the SDK released for watchOS 2.
 

coffeemadmanUK

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"I bought a technology for money. It doesn't work 100 percent like I want it to. Let me rant about it on a message board because it should be perfect for $400 and sense all of my extremities."

Do people have to have performed a job dealing with the limitations of technology, science and just plain ol' rules of the universe to not expect perfection?

I find the feature quite useful, especially with a job that is mostly sitting at a computer. I've filled it every day except for my last day off -- it was last Wednesday, but I swear it feels like a month ago -- and when I didn't get credit one hour when I could've sworn I got up on I think Thursday. But it's got me standing up more during the day.

The workouts and activity apps also have me using my exercise bike a lot more. I thought my Fitbit would do that a couple of years ago, but it didn't. I mean it made me realize my step counts, but sometimes going for a walk isn't the type of exercise you want to do. I've got an indoor bike in front of my TV, so I've been using it some during shows and even a few hours ago watching the keynote from today. I was like "I'm just sitting here watching this. Hello, bike. If I ride you for a bit, I can make the green circle bigger." So I set it for 15 minutes and ended up going 20.

Is the watch perfect? No. I detailed getting calories psycho counted while driving in another thread. But it's so far the best fitness tracker I've seen and I found a new way to store some passwords and codes I often need on my watch behind a single passcode (with 1Password). This is before developers get their hands on the SDK released for watchOS 2.
I think that your post misses the point.

If you buy something for £600+ you expect it to be smart enough to work and know when you're standing up or dangling your arm over a chair.

This is an Apple Watch forum; it's a new product; it makes PERFECT SENSE to come here and note your thoughts and views on a given topic.

Or else. The forum. Would not. Exist.
 
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flur

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*yawn* I run 3-5 times a week depending on the weather and have a regular gym routine, I think this gimmick won't be missed. Ty for your opinion though.
Good for you. The sitting for hours will still kill you though.
 
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flur

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If you buy something for £600+ you expect it to be smart enough to work and know when you're standing up or dangling your arm over a chair.
LOL. My car, my house, heck, the laptop I'm typing on all cost more than that, and I don't expect any of them to be able to tell if I'm standing up or not. The cost of a device does not determine its functionality.

At the end of the day, the watch is a tool that you can choose to use to improve your health/life/whatever, or not. If you choose to take the reminders and do something with your body, you'll see the benefit of that. If you don't, well, then you won't. There's no amount of crying about how it works that's going to change that.
 

flori13

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I take these reminders seriously because sitting for a long period of time is extremely unhealthy, no matter how much exercise you do afterwards. I count the steps until I receive credit, it's always around 50 steps.
That's not too hard, isn't it?
 

flur

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I take these reminders seriously because sitting for a long period of time is extremely unhealthy, no matter how much exercise you do afterwards. I count the steps until I receive credit, it's always around 50 steps.
That's not too hard, isn't it?
When I'm at work I get up and walk around, usually for more time than it takes to get the credit. At home I do chores or dance around the house or play with the dog for about 5 minutes and take the exercise credit that gets me. I also use it as a reminder to get myself a glass of water, because when I sit for long periods sometimes I forget to hydrate.
 
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