Or one could be like me: You acknowledge the difference and can see the difference… and just don’t care.
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Standard iPhone 17 Display Again Said to Feature Higher Refresh Rate
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
I personally don’t even see the difference (to me it’s like a genetic difference like people that cannot eat cilantro cuz it tastes like soap to them).
I wonder what I am missing out on 😅 but I guess it’s good that they are finally going with the time.
I wonder what I am missing out on 😅 but I guess it’s good that they are finally going with the time.
As it should be. Even low end android devices get screens with 90-120hz displays. Apple gatekeeping it to sell the "pro" phones is whack.
Licktastic Retina Display - it refreshes so fast you have to lick your own eyeballs like a lizard to keep up.
Battery tech R&D is ongoing. I am pointing out what I'd prefer over higher refresh rate.
Heck, I'd prefer no punch hole displays.
They could introduce a 90Hz refresh rate to the "budget" models and name it PoorMotion.
Last edited:
This is why I can’t go back to 60hz anymore. The difference is just too jarring.
Hardly a surprise… the 60 Hz display really is the only weak point of iPhone 16 / 16 Plus.
Exactly what I was going to say and thank you for throwing “old fashioned” in there too.
Not really any reason not to do this at this point. I’m sure Apple knows more about the market than I do but I find it hard to believe it’s not price competitive at this point to put 120Hz in everything. At some point it would be harder to get panels that aren’t, I would think.
Agree. ProMotion should have been introduced on iPhone 16 too.
The new SE will be an iPhone 14 with USB C in my opinion.
Who cares about Android ? BTW in most of the implementations, Android phones have a “very little variable” refresh rate that switch between some values like 60/90/120 Hz depending on the app. On some high end models we saw the refresh rate stuck to 60 or 90Hz no matter what. As usual Android is an unregulated mess where the specs list doesn’t tell all the story…
It is already marketed as ProMotion. By the way, every brand as its meaningless marketing name (aka Samsung Adaptive Motion Smoothness, OnePlus Fluid AMOLED or Google Smooth Display). Marketing is just marketing.
Exactly. iPhone 16 panel is top notch in everything except refresh rate.
I fully agree 60 Hz on a €1000 device are not acceptable, but there is nothing laggy about iPhone 15 or 16 panel.
Galaxy S20 note was first, androids have had it before Apple and continue to also have higher refresh rates than what Promotion provides. The only caveat is Promotion had smoother scaling or a more true variable nature than android's implementation at the time (though android OS is no longer hindering hardware for true VRR now)
I would be willing to bet Apple gimps this at 90hz artificially to say it’s improved but not at “pro” levels. This is a classic Apple move.
Well Apple did the sensible thing with Macs and made them all a minimum 16 GB RAM finally, likewise all their iPhones should have fast refresh screens as standard along with 8GB RAM (with exception of maybe the upcoming SE4). There have been a few articles supporting this so most likely is going to happen.
FlyingDutch i said that already, but this is about phones not tablets. If your trying to say Apple should get more credit as they technically developed a 120 hz variable refresh display first in 2017 then yes you are right.
It’s time for the “Pro” models to get 144hz panels. That should be good enough for the rest of the decade.
It really differs from person to person. Some swear by it. Some see it at first then stop noticing. Some don’t even see it at all. Some see it and don’t care.
It also seems to differ by the device, with some people saying they see it or care about it on some devices but not others.
On my iPhone I see it clearly but care very little.
What's funny is I can still use large displays at 60Hz just fine, like laptops and desktops, but on the small screen of a phone the difference feels amplified.
In 2024 there's a market for even heavier than 227g iPhone 16 Pro Max with 4,685 mAh battery... see 298g Huawei Mate XT Ultimate.
If Apple so chooses it can push the battery to be >70g heavier.
This 2024 Energizer Hard Case P28K has a 28,000mAh battery for 570g. That's nearly 6x the battery life of the 16 Pro Max.
If I am getting 3 days battery currently then I'd charge every 18 days with the Energizer's battery. Just a little over 41 charging cycles over a 24 month of use.
Inversely Honor to use 7800mAh± battery in new smartphone in 2025.
My iPhone 16 Pro Max has a 4685 mAh that lasts me 3 days.
That's 243 charge cycles over 24 months.
With that Honor 7800 mAh battery would increase it to 5 days.
That's 146 charge cycles over 24 months.
Less charge cycles the longer the battery health.
Last edited: