Dale Sorel said:Uh, ESB is considered by many to be the best episode of the SW series. Did that have a happy ending![]()
Good point, good point. I stand dejected.
Dale Sorel said:Uh, ESB is considered by many to be the best episode of the SW series. Did that have a happy ending![]()
EminenceGrise said:The last two movies have just stunk. I mean, really, something is rotten in Skywalker Ranch - and I think it's the putrifying corpse of the Star Wars series. While I think the casting was acutally OK, the scripts were totally worthless. I recall reading a review after the first movie that summed things up fairly well - it went along the lines of "There's only so much an actor can do with 'Dick and Jane go to Naboo'". I think it's quite telling that the screenplay for what is widely regarded as the best movie in the series (ESB) was not written by Lucas. Lucas is a good idea man and visionary, but quite frankly the last two movies have proven he's not the best screenplay writer, or director. It'a a shame too, because while I love the original three movies, these last two have kind of turned me off of the whole thing.
And the CGI - total crap. It doesn't blend into the background seamlessly like in LoTR as it should, no, it jumps out and screams "WHAM! Here I am!" - no wait, make that "Meesa here!" - and then proceeds to bludgeon you to death with it. Over and over. And over again. And again. (Side note: what brain trust came up with JarJar? Nice convenient marketing tie in guys. My only hope is that one day you are cornered in a dark alley and brutally beaten by a mob of Star Wars fanatics wielding JarJar action figures and shouting "Weesa gonna kick your sorry little a**es!". Wankers.) The stuff from the old movies is so much better, and all they used were models - but they looked real enough and weren't intrusive. The "Ooooh, shiny CGI!" thing is extemely tiresome, and not what I expected from the likes of George Lucas. Not at all. The only CGI I liked in either movies were the chrome spaceships - and that was what, 5min of footage at the most?
I liked the original movies, and it's not like they were particularly well written or acted either ("But... but you'll die." comes to mind...) - but at least the special effects added to the story rather than were the story. Yes, I can even forgive the Ewoks (actually I kind of like them). What happened with Episodes I and II was a crime. As far as I'm concerned, Star Wars is dead to me outside of Episodes IV,V, and VI - though I will still probably watch Episode III at some point. I been through it this long, might as well stick around to see the final nail in the coffin.
As far as acting, that may be true. But Episode IV won 6 Oscars and had 10 nominations (winning for Art Direction, Costume Design, Film Editing, Score, Sound, and Visual Effects), while Episode I and II added another 4 nominations. When I see Episode III, I will again expect good sound and great visual effects.OnceUGoMac said:If you go into the films looking for Oscar material, you're sadly mistaken.
OnceUGoMac said:Revenge of the Sith is a great title. Parallels. The original title of Return of the Jedi was Revenge of the Jedi, so I see why he chose Revenge of the Sith as the title for Episode III. Also, people that complain about the naming of the titles fail to notice that all of the titles are a throwback to serials of the 1930s -1950s. Also, all the movies have poor dialogue and/or acting. I think it's just that the baby-boomers want someting new to complain about and use the "In my day, it was better" scenario. If you go into the films looking for Oscar material, you're sadly mistaken. It's a Sci-Fi film based in a serial format, nothing more, nothing else. Get over yourselves and your film pretentiousness or you'll fail to like most films.
Morrison23j said:Who cares about the title because we all know that if your a Star Wars fan or even like Star Wars, your going to see the movie, even though it probably will blow.
Why?
1.Because we want to see the end of the beginning.
2.And we already wasted our time watching the first two.
3.Star Wars is awesome.
So who cares about a non-creative title to a probably crappy movie that we'll all see because its a Star Wars movie.
Krizoitz said:Personally I don't think the prequels stood a chance. A generation of Star Wars fans have all but deified the original three films. Seriously if you go back and look at them objectively you will see how bad the acting can be at parts, especially in the first one. But who cares, it was a fun good movie.
Yet, they had achieved such an insane status in the minds of many as "THE GREATEST MOVIES OF ALL TIME" that there was nothing, and I mean NOTHING Lucas could have done that would have pleased the legions of fans. For one thing lots of them wanted different things to happen I'm sure.
This is not to say that Ep1 and Ep2 didn't have issues, the story was rather weak in the first one. I mean yes they had to set things up, but they did so in a rather hokey way (midichlorians? pod racing? JarJar?). In the second one things improved of course, but I still didn't much care for the acting of the new Anakin.
Personally I think Lucas tried to bring things together too early.
themadchemist said:You make an outstanding point. People will see this movie, Lucas will make his money, and isn't that what it's all about?
Awimoway said:No, that's not the point, and even if it were, these movies aren't making nearly as much money. They're not setting records even for their release year, there won't be as many return sales, rental sales, etc.
The point is to tell a damn fine story, and these fail.
Doctor Q said:As far as acting, that may be true. But Episode IV won 6 Oscars and had 10 nominations (winning for Art Direction, Costume Design, Film Editing, Score, Sound, and Visual Effects), while Episode I and II added another 4 nominations. When I see Episode III, I will again expect good sound and great visual effects.
wdlove said:I also expect that Episode III will do well when it comes to Oscar time. Imagine that it will be like "The Lord Of The Rings." They will look at the body totality of the work. A chance to honor all 6.
Doctor Q said:Lucas's original idea was for 9 movies. Will we ever see VII, VIII, and IX?
Foxer said:We ALL know what must happen at the end of the next movie. We've known since before the prequels were ever made. Given that, how can you qrite stories that are compelling and still contain a bit of suspense and surprise. I think, from that point of view, the preqels fare quite well.
well, in the 70's lucas wrote this biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiggggggggggggggggggaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaassssssssssssss script that those producer people divided into 9 episodes and they chose the 3 they did because of special effects limitations (hence why they were called 4 5 and 6 back then) if any of 5 already out are afterthoughts it's 4 5 and 6. btw im more of a star trek *ducks to avoid rotten veggies* than a star wars fan but star wars still rocks!Awimoway said:Sometimes I think Lucas is making these first three more out of a grim sense of duty to explain the back-story than out of any real passion to tell the stories. (And of course he's also making them to rake in gobs of cash, but aside from that.)
mactastic said:If only Kirosawa had thought to write prequels to his stories...
agreenster said:mactastic said:If only Kirosawa had thought to write prequels to his stories...
Hilarious. Only the true film geeks are picking up on the humor in that post.