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Star Wars Episode III Title Revealed
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And that's exactly what's missing from the prequels: any sense of fun. Everything's so solemn, and no one seems to have a sense of humor. The sole attempt to balance the dramatic and serious fate-of-the-world stuff is a contrived comedic sidekick and a few lame one-liners.Krizoitz said:
One of my favorite scenes in the original Star Wars is the trash-compactor bit: here they all are, about to die, and they're all bitching at each other at the top of their lungs about whose fault it was at the same time that they're trying to save their skins, and all generally panicking. It's absolutely PERFECT, because that's exactly how real human beings would behave in that situation, not all stoic and hero-like.
Yes, the acting was never top-notch, and Alec Guinness was sorry to the end of his days for having been in Star Wars at all, but at least you felt like you were watching *people*, not artificial constructs.
sonyrules said:
A good 1/3 of the 9 hours to be cut out will merely be eliminating the whining & complaining of Luke, Anakin, & Han Solo.
One part in 'Attack of the Clones' was during the final battle. C3PO had his head knocked off and the fighting was intercut by 3PO telling one-liner jokes about his situation. One was "I've fallen and I can't get up" or something similiar, but obviously referring to the old life-button commercial. I remember saying to myself, "that's just ****ing stupid."
So either Lucas is becoming an old man and just reusing his old ideas. Or his accountants/marketing people over at Lucasfilm LTD. have convinced him to dumb-down his movie to appeal to the under 13 crowd. Either way its in bad shape. I wish the series would take a darker turn and include more back story of the Emperor and the sith realm. Which Episode three might do. Everybodies favorite is ESB and thats the darkest one of them all.
So either Lucas is becoming an old man and just reusing his old ideas. Or his accountants/marketing people over at Lucasfilm LTD. have convinced him to dumb-down his movie to appeal to the under 13 crowd. Either way its in bad shape. I wish the series would take a darker turn and include more back story of the Emperor and the sith realm. Which Episode three might do. Everybodies favorite is ESB and thats the darkest one of them all.
I agree with the people who say the newer movies just aren't real. The human characters are like cardboard and they are surrounded by CGI. It's crap. I only good thing about the new films is having such as babe as Natalie Portman, however Carrie Fisher was spunkier with her "laser brain" comments.
No! Empire's better!!! plus there aren't any ewoks in it!MacFan26 said:Return of the Jedi is my favorite
obeygiant said:
indeed
I'd have to say one of my favorite lines from that one is when the Ewoks discover C-3PO and Han says: "Well why don't you use your divine influence, and get us out of this?!" edit:
stevehaslip said:No! Empire's better!!! plus there aren't any ewoks in it!
You must admit they're better than the gunguns
MacFan26 said:indeed
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You must admit they're better than the gunguns
They also beat being poked in the eye with a sharp stick...
Awimoway said:
I disagree with you - ESB was very dark and had an unhappy ending, and it was the best Star Wars movie of them all IMO.
I think the main reason they are perceived as sucking is because, well, the sucked. For all the reasons listed in this thread ad nauseum (bad acting, CGI overload, etc.), they sucked. Plain and simple.
The only thing I'm looking forward to in Episode III is Anakin's and Obi-Wan's lightsaber battle...
~Shard~The only thing I'm looking forward to in Episode III is Anakin's and Obi-Wan's lightsaber battle...[/QUOTE said:
MacFan26 said:indeed
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You must admit they're better than the gunguns
the gungans would have been alright if thye had given them normal voices! jar jar sounds ridiculous, you have to watch each scene 3 times before you understand what he's saying! they look much better than the ewoks do from an artistic standpoint, the ewoks look like large guinea pigs that stand on their back legs! what was GL thinking?!
~Shard~ said:
the first two times i watched episode 1, i fell asleep. the third time, i made myself stay awake just so i would actually know what happened.
and other than a nice light saber duel, i pretty much wish i had kept sleeping.
ESB ranks as my favorite too...
mkaake said:
I saw Episode I opening night in the theater and couldn't have been more disappointed. JarJar turned it into a Disney movie (Lucas no doubt has his kids in mind and merchandising), the story was weak, and the only cool part was Darth Maul and his lightsaber battle - and then they go and kill him!
I was hoping for more in Episode II, and although I liked it better than Episode I, it was too CGI-laden. And of course the whole love story SUCKED - I could write better dialogue with my butt. The original trilogy didn't need to rely on special effects to make them great movies - they were a component, but not THE component. What was the budget of the original Star Wars anyway, something like $11 million?
I guess we'll see how Episode III turns out, but I definitely don't have my hopes up. My guess is that to appease the fans Lucas will make it 80% action with lots of llghtsabers just to cover up the lack of story and an actual bad movie....
I can't wait for Episode III Flaws and all.......
I have read all your mostly negative comments about EP I and II and i can agree with most of them but can still say I enjoyed them, in particular EP II. Star Wars has always had bad dialogue, it has never and never will be shakespeare. Alot of people my generation ( 25-35) who grew up watching the original trilogy somehow expected these movies to be aimed at them and be more adult. THEY ARE KIDS MOVIES, and they appeal to the kid in me. And for the adult in you, what most people don't seem to appreciate, is the complex SIDIOUS/PALPATINE story of subtle political manipulation. I think this has been done quite cleverly. Particularly in EP II, in how he creates an enemy of form of DOOKU in order to provide an excuse for an arms build up and war. Anybody see the parallel with the USA arming Iraq in the 80's and creating this enemy which gives Bush an excuse to build an army and go to war? Maybe over simplifed but I think Lucas was trying to say something.
Watching EP II, dodgy love story aside, recaptured for me how I felt watching the Original Trilogy. And was complex enough to appeal to the adult in me. I for one can't wait for Episode III.
I have read all your mostly negative comments about EP I and II and i can agree with most of them but can still say I enjoyed them, in particular EP II. Star Wars has always had bad dialogue, it has never and never will be shakespeare. Alot of people my generation ( 25-35) who grew up watching the original trilogy somehow expected these movies to be aimed at them and be more adult. THEY ARE KIDS MOVIES, and they appeal to the kid in me. And for the adult in you, what most people don't seem to appreciate, is the complex SIDIOUS/PALPATINE story of subtle political manipulation. I think this has been done quite cleverly. Particularly in EP II, in how he creates an enemy of form of DOOKU in order to provide an excuse for an arms build up and war. Anybody see the parallel with the USA arming Iraq in the 80's and creating this enemy which gives Bush an excuse to build an army and go to war? Maybe over simplifed but I think Lucas was trying to say something.
Watching EP II, dodgy love story aside, recaptured for me how I felt watching the Original Trilogy. And was complex enough to appeal to the adult in me. I for one can't wait for Episode III.
a friend of mine said
"Did you see Star Wars: A New Hope in the theater when it came out?"
if you answered yes he was fine and the conversation continued. I saw many people answer no. here was the response.
"Your opinion does not matter, I'm not speaking to you anymore."
I think those of us that grew up with StarWars and played with the original toys had much higher hopes from these movies. The first (jarjar)came out and I stood in line (just to get in, not to buy tickets). All-in-all the movie was average. To me that was a let down. then with the hype and the freakin toys they started to overdo it. It seemed the movie was there to market the franchise (games, toys, food, computer games, etC)
The second movie was less then average. and I lowered my approval level for that movie. the writing was terrible. the love scenes were clumsy and poorly written. the CGI was neat, but impractical. why would robots build such impractical machines. Most of it seems like the art directors were like -- ohh that 's pretty lets use that.
egads -- the cameos -- LAME
I was hoping the movies would end on bad notes. but that is so unamerican. The second movie should have been depressing when you left. We ALL know what is going to happen.
The third movie should be dark and depressing and evil, I bey we will feel happy when we leave.
I think I would have liked to see a future of the genera, not the past. to many congruency issues. I wonder how long until they remake the original three movies again to fill in even more holes created by the prequell
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Dave
"Did you see Star Wars: A New Hope in the theater when it came out?"
if you answered yes he was fine and the conversation continued. I saw many people answer no. here was the response.
"Your opinion does not matter, I'm not speaking to you anymore."
I think those of us that grew up with StarWars and played with the original toys had much higher hopes from these movies. The first (jarjar)came out and I stood in line (just to get in, not to buy tickets). All-in-all the movie was average. To me that was a let down. then with the hype and the freakin toys they started to overdo it. It seemed the movie was there to market the franchise (games, toys, food, computer games, etC)
The second movie was less then average. and I lowered my approval level for that movie. the writing was terrible. the love scenes were clumsy and poorly written. the CGI was neat, but impractical. why would robots build such impractical machines. Most of it seems like the art directors were like -- ohh that 's pretty lets use that.
egads -- the cameos -- LAME
I was hoping the movies would end on bad notes. but that is so unamerican. The second movie should have been depressing when you left. We ALL know what is going to happen.
The third movie should be dark and depressing and evil, I bey we will feel happy when we leave.
I think I would have liked to see a future of the genera, not the past. to many congruency issues. I wonder how long until they remake the original three movies again to fill in even more holes created by the prequell
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Dave
jdoyle said:
I think that was justified
I think a good script after how many years was justified to. to much time on effects not enough time on writing.
the prime viewer base of the movies was in the mid 20's to early 40's. They studios wanted money -- that is why it was geared towards kids - product marketing.
I think the movie people realised that most of this age has kids and will take them to see the movies. If the adults love the genra they wikll buy their kids the toys related to it. so lucas -n- company released a flood of toys on the market. then revised the toys and released collecters editions of the same toys, etc.
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sketchy said:
Okay, so the only people i know who own the toys are adults. Lucas could have made the movie for adults and probably made the same amount on merchandising.
I remember back in the day my buddies and I used to shoot han, chewie and luke with a bb gun, never considering those figures would be worth money in the future. I also remember taking a lighter to Luke's "automatic" light saber that came out of his hand. Ahh, memories.
sketchy said:
I did. I remember begging to go see it. I remember being told that I was too young. Boy am I glad it was playing for so long. sketchy said:
I lost interest in them when the first movie came out and told me Darth Vadors real name is Annie.
The Deathstar will come out, tomorrow, bet your bottom dollar that tomorrow....
The Deathstar will come out, tomorrow, bet your bottom dollar that tomorrow....
I had a hinting suspicion it would be something along those lines. I am slightly more optimistic of the upcoming movie than most of you seem to be. You simply can't enjoy the new ones until you've accepted the fact that they never will be as good as the old ones.
macsforall said:I had a hinting suspicion it would be something along those lines. I am slightly more optimistic of the upcoming movie than most of you seem to be. You simply can't enjoy the new ones until you've accepted the fact that they never will be as good as the old ones.
I'm pretty optimistic about the next movie. I know that it's never going to be as good as the old ones, so I'm willing to live with some of the things that aren't cool about it. And besides, this is the last movie, so it's the last one to get excited about