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Steam games unplayable after Windows 10

maelstromr

maelstromr

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I looked around and could not find much about this issue. Steam and games ran really well on 2015 retina macbook pro in Bootcamp windows 8.1, then I updated to Windows 10 and it seems like the graphics card/processing is not working. I disabled scaling under properties for the Steam app itself, and that made the Steam app run fine. I cannot find such an option on the games themselves, and I cannot get the games to work. Help?

I have a moderate to high Mac proficiency, but next to none with PCs.

Thanks.
 
maelstromr said:
I looked around and could not find much about this issue. Steam and games ran really well on 2015 retina macbook pro in Bootcamp windows 8.1, then I updated to Windows 10 and it seems like the graphics card/processing is not working. I disabled scaling under properties for the Steam app itself, and that made the Steam app run fine. I cannot find such an option on the games themselves, and I cannot get the games to work. Help?

I have a moderate to high Mac proficiency, but next to none with PCs.

Thanks.
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Drivers, most likely. Do you have the model with the integrated or dedicated GPU?

If you've got the integrated one, you can download Intel Driver Update Utility, which'll auto scan your system for GPU updates. Install any that it finds.

Also change the power setting to High Performance, if you haven't already.

Let me know if you have the dGPU and I'll dig out a driver for you.
 
On my cheap Asus sub-note and WinBook Tablet the Win 10 upgrade put in only the "Microsoft Graphics Driver". Was wondering why my video and games were running too slowly.

I went into "Device Manager" and the Display Adapter "Drivers" tab and clicked on "Update Driver". The latest driver (in this case from Intel) was updated. I did the same for my sound chips just in case.

Everything worked fine afterwards.
 
maelstromr said:
I looked around and could not find much about this issue. Steam and games ran really well on 2015 retina macbook pro in Bootcamp windows 8.1, then I updated to Windows 10 and it seems like the graphics card/processing is not working. I disabled scaling under properties for the Steam app itself, and that made the Steam app run fine. I cannot find such an option on the games themselves, and I cannot get the games to work. Help?

I have a moderate to high Mac proficiency, but next to none with PCs.

Thanks.
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This thread is a valuable one. Please report back after "the fix". :) As a rule, on my MBP running Winows 7 on Bootcamp, I've just used the drivers that Apple supplies. I realize there might be better out there.
 
keysofanxiety said:
Drivers, most likely. Do you have the model with the integrated or dedicated GPU?

If you've got the integrated one, you can download Intel Driver Update Utility, which'll auto scan your system for GPU updates. Install any that it finds.

Also change the power setting to High Performance, if you haven't already.

Let me know if you have the dGPU and I'll dig out a driver for you.
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Thanks for the reply. I am using the dedicate graphics version - latest model with AMD R9 M370X. I tried downloading drivers directly from AMD, but their system said "you have no compatible hardware". Wondering if that is because it is the special apple flavor of the card?

When I go into system/device settings and tell it to update drivers, the devices app says all drivers are up to date.
 
maelstromr said:
Thanks for the reply. I am using the dedicate graphics version - latest model with AMD R9 M370X. I tried downloading drivers directly from AMD, but their system said "you have no compatible hardware". Wondering if that is because it is the special apple flavor of the card?

When I go into system/device settings and tell it to update drivers, the devices app says all drivers are up to date.
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Hi there, have you tried the AMD Auto Detect to see if that comes up with anything?

If that was the one you used, did you try to locate the exact driver/model on AMD's website as listed in Device Manager and download that?
 
My system was crawling after upgrading to 10 on top of Win 7. Installing the most current bootcamp drivers for it corrected the problem completely. I just toss that out in case you did not run the bootcamp drivers installation following the upgrade which is something I would recommend doing based on my own experience. Everything is working just fine here now. Testing a variety of Windows games running with Steam and also some others, no issues to report.
 
So Macrumors noted new Bootcamp software available today. I downloaded onto flash and installed the apple provided bootcamp software and drivers, and viola! Things seem to be working perfectly. It was definitely an AMD driver issue at the core - once that update was installed, the main problem was fixed.
 
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So Macrumors noted new Bootcamp software available today. I downloaded onto flash and installed the apple provided bootcamp software and drivers, and viola! Things seem to be working perfectly. It was definitely an AMD driver issue at the core - once that update was installed, the main problem was fixed.
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What exactly did you run? I'm not clear on what does what. I thought after Windows was installed , all you have to do is update the drivers which you can get from Apple as part of a Bootcamp install. Or does Bootcamp do other's things besides facilitate a Windows partition that would require Bootcamp itself to be updated?
 
Huntn said:
I'm not clear on what does what. I thought after Windows was installed , all you have to do is update the drivers which you can get from Apple as part of a Bootcamp install. Or does Bootcamp do other's things besides facilitate a Windows partition that would require Bootcamp itself to be updated?
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My understanding is that they should have been updating properly through Windows, and maybe they will soon. For whatever reason, the software (think of bootcamp as a driver for Windows on a mac) was not updating, and Ihad to get it directly from the bootcamp assistant within OS X. I downloaded to a flash drive, similar to what i needed to do to do the original install, then started in windows and updated bootcamp software and drivers from the flash drive. Like I said, maybe the problem here is just the lag of new releases.
 
maelstromr said:
So Macrumors noted new Bootcamp software available today. I downloaded onto flash and installed the apple provided bootcamp software and drivers, and viola! Things seem to be working perfectly. It was definitely an AMD driver issue at the core - once that update was installed, the main problem was fixed.
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Bootcamp update, where did you get that ?
 
maelstromr said:
My understanding is that they should have been updating properly through Windows, and maybe they will soon. For whatever reason, the software (think of bootcamp as a driver for Windows on a mac) was not updating, and Ihad to get it directly from the bootcamp assistant within OS X. I downloaded to a flash drive, similar to what i needed to do to do the original install, then started in windows and updated bootcamp software and drivers from the flash drive. Like I said, maybe the problem here is just the lag of new releases.
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Ok thanks! That's the install that happens in Windows with the Drivers and Bootcamp update. Have you noticed any difference in performance since W10?
 
maelstromr said:
Open Bootcamp assistant in Mac OS, it will give you an option to download windows support software to a flash drive.
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I assume this is a reply for me, yes I know it does that that but never heard that called an update before, thanks.
 
The new bootcamp drivers release specific to Windows 10, should be available directly from the Apple web site as they normally are. You can always get the bootcamp drivers install package there whenever you wish. You don't have to run bootcamp assistant to get them. You can just visit the site in Windows, download them and install them that way.

I would think running Apple's own software updater in Windows which is installed with bootcamp initially should also do new Apple driver updates but I haven't tried that yet. I will next time I boot into Windows 10.

Having just checked the announcement on the front page here at MacRumors I note there is driver support for Windows 10 on various Mac models going back to 2012.
 
I am in Windows 10 now and just ran Apple Software Update here. It is presently installing Boot Camp 6 Update for Windows 10 for me. :)

So, if you already have Windows on your Mac this is the easiest way to update your boot camp installation drivers, etc. The installation download is over a gigabyte btw.
 
Dirtyharry50 said:
I am in Windows 10 now and just ran Apple Software Update here. It is presently installing Boot Camp 6 Update for Windows 10 for me. :)

So, if you already have Windows on your Mac this is the easiest way to update your boot camp installation drivers, etc. The installation download is over a gigabyte btw.
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Sorry to maybe sound a bit stupid here but if I am already running win7 under Bootcamp and If I upgrade to win10 when does the Bootcamp upgrade happen ?
 
Washac said:
Sorry to maybe sound a bit stupid here but if I am already running win7 under Bootcamp and If I upgrade to win10 when does the Bootcamp upgrade happen ?
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I installed Windows 10, then installed what I had available at the time (just days ago) which was Boot Camp 5 being then the most recent even though not specifically for Windows 10 and all was well once I did that. I will say, prior to doing that install (of bootcamp drivers) on my own particular system, Windows 10 performance was horrible and even the Boot Camp installer took forever (like an hour) to run and finish but it did without errors and after a reboot, presto! Good to go. This was upgrading from Windows 7 in my case. I forget if I already mentioned that above or not.

So, I mention that just in case you do it and then it seems like it is screwed up. Installing the drivers once Windows 10 is installed corrected everything here.

Today, after learning about the release of Boot Camp 6, I ran the Apple Software Update utility from the Windows 10 start menu to upgrade to the most current Boot Camp drivers, etc. I don't know if that would have worked or not to install the Boot Camp 5 ones after installing Windows 10. I presume where I upgraded on top of Windows 7 that I would have had the updater available to try but it did not occur to me at the time. So instead, I just went to the Apple support pages, found the bootcamp area and downloaded the drivers installer from there for my particular iMac.

I hope the way I just worded all that isn't confusing. Basically it went like this:

Install Windows 10 upgrade on top of Windows 7
Download and install then most current Boot Camp from Apple Support web site (while in Windows)
Today, used Apple Software Update to update to newly released Boot Camp 6

So, doing it now I would try this:

Upgrade to Windows 10
Try to run Apple Software Update from the start menu in Windows 10 to install latest Boot Camp
If that doesn't work, download the installer from Apple Support website and do it that way.

Oh, and that didn't sound stupid at all. You want to see stupid? You should see how often I dive in and screw up and only then learn how I was supposed to do stuff. lol
 
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Dirtyharry50 said:
I installed Windows 10, then installed what I had available at the time (just days ago) which was Boot Camp 5 being then the most recent even though not specifically for Windows 10 and all was well once I did that. I will say, prior to doing that install (of bootcamp drivers) on my own particular system, Windows 10 performance was horrible and even the Boot Camp installer took forever (like an hour) to run and finish but it did without errors and after a reboot, presto! Good to go. This was upgrading from Windows 7 in my case. I forget if I already mentioned that above or not.

So, I mention that just in case you do it and then it seems like it is screwed up. Installing the drivers once Windows 10 is installed corrected everything here.

Today, after learning about the release of Boot Camp 6, I ran the Apple Software Update utility from the Windows 10 start menu to upgrade to the most current Boot Camp drivers, etc. I don't know if that would have worked or not to install the Boot Camp 5 ones after installing Windows 10. I presume where I upgraded on top of Windows 7 that I would have had the updater available to try but it did not occur to me at the time. So instead, I just went to the Apple support pages, found the bootcamp area and downloaded the drivers installer from there for my particular iMac.

I hope the way I just worded all that isn't confusing. Basically it went like this:

Install Windows 10 upgrade on top of Windows 7
Download and install then most current Boot Camp from Apple Support web site (while in Windows)
Today, used Apple Software Update to update to newly released Boot Camp 6

So, doing it now I would try this:

Upgrade to Windows 10
Try to run Apple Software Update from the start menu in Windows 10 to install latest Boot Camp
If that doesn't work, download the installer from Apple Support website and do it that way.

Oh, and that didn't sound stupid at all. You want to see stupid? You should see how often I dive in and screw up and only then learn how I was supposed to do stuff. lol
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Thanks for that :)
 
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I despise Windows 8, but think I'll wait a little longer before I install Windows 10 in Bootcamp. I've been through one crazy nightmare already trying to repair my Fusion drive sometime back, and don't want to revisit it anytime soon. I rarely boot to Windows anyway.

I did pick up a cheap 2-in-1 laptop for using with VAG-COM on my car. Upgraded to Windows 10 on the first day. Was impressed with the speed. Overall seems like a much more cohesive and unified-UI (finally), but I kept having issues with the new browser, Edge. It would just randomly stop routing anywhere, wouldn't even respond to clicks. Saw a bunch of others reporting the same thing on various forums. Wound up just installing Firefox.
 
Dirtyharry50 said:
The new bootcamp drivers release specific to Windows 10, should be available directly from the Apple web site as they normally are. You can always get the bootcamp drivers install package there whenever you wish. You don't have to run bootcamp assistant to get them. You can just visit the site in Windows, download them and install them that way.

I would think running Apple's own software updater in Windows which is installed with bootcamp initially should also do new Apple driver updates but I haven't tried that yet. I will next time I boot into Windows 10.

Having just checked the announcement on the front page here at MacRumors I note there is driver support for Windows 10 on various Mac models going back to 2012.
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If you are running Windows 7 would you benefit from updating the boot camp/windows drivers in Windows? I suppose it's possible.
 
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