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Step instructions for installing BootCamp manually - HELP.
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http://downloadcenter.intel.com/T8C...All&OSFullName=All Operating Systems&lang=eng
This should be the latest AHCI driver from Intel
Just a word of warning! I did this again because I changed my Windows on the Mac Pro from 32bit XP Pro to Vista Business 64-Bit. When you have successfully installed and updated the system in legacy mode PLEASE make a backup (I use Winclone) because you usually screw this up once or twice before you get the knack of it. When you have saved your system:
1. under Vista edit the registry
2. boot Windows and load iaahaci.inf to your legacy ATA drives
3. boot OS X without touching Windows and run Johnsock's script. Make sure it selects the right drive and acknoledges the change to the MBR
4. boot into Windows and load iastor.inf to your SATA AHCI drives
I show 2 pics here how it looks when you have got it right. 1st is the Windows hardware manager with SATA drives in AHCI mode and the latest Intel driver from February 11. 2009.
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2nd is a pic of the matrix storage driver program with the output from my system. I have hooked up the Blu-Ray to the second ODD-SATA port which is counted as #5 by Intel. They start their count with 0.
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Can you explain this in different terms? Nothing here seems to be working at all.
If I DL and run the autoinstaller from that message at insanelymac if runs and then there is no differences at all. If I DL the drivers from the intel link there is no setup file.
My 4 sled-bays consist of the Windows boot drive and three 1.5 TB Mac OS RAID drives. There is a HFS+ formatted 1TB drive in the ODD but it's not recognized by windows - AT ALL. If it's not in the windows system how am I supposed to select it in order to install it's drivers?
Huh?? I'm lost. None of this is making any sense to me. Any help?
How do I install the ACHI drivers exactly?
I would remove the RAID drives for everything that is done in Windows. The ODD-SATA will not work with legacy drivers at all. They only work in AHCI mode. The most simple way to do this is temporarily setting up a HD for Leopard that is not RAIDed.
I believe - without knowing exactly - that you can refit the RAID when the AHCI drivers are installed.
I believe - without knowing exactly - that you can refit the RAID when the AHCI drivers are installed.
While maybe true, that makes no sense at all. Why I can't install drivers when the RAID drives are in? Windows sees them as just separate drives Healthy and all.
This is something I install in Windows right? But there's no installer for the drivers.
UG! I give up! I'm far too lazy to pull those drives to install drivers.
I know from own experience that Windows will not run ODD-SATA ports in legacy mode. You told me that a RAID installed in the standard SATA ports will make any residual ports seen as external by Windows. So it is no surprise that you have no success.
About being lazy. I don't understand that you are too lazy to pull out three drives. When you put them back nothing will have changed. It is not that you are deleting your RAID. OS X will find it back when you fit it again. At least tht is what logic tells me.
About being lazy. I don't understand that you are too lazy to pull out three drives. When you put them back nothing will have changed. It is not that you are deleting your RAID. OS X will find it back when you fit it again. At least tht is what logic tells me.
I said that? I think not.. but maybe.. I don't recall. The explorer shows them as removable drives. LOL The "Computer Management" -> Storage -> Disk Management. shows them as "No Media". The "Computer Management" -> System Tools -> Device Manager -> Disk Drives. Shows them and allows a properties panel; but those are the HFS+ RAID0 drives. The drive in the ODD bay doesn't show up in any of these lists. No Access at all.
Hehhe, let me define my level of laziness for you:
- I have to Shut Down the machine:
Total yuck!
- I have to get out of my chair:
OMG!
- I have to shut down AND get out of my chair:
It better be a new toy, a family vacation, or a hot babe - or I'm killing someone!
- I have to shut down, get out of my chair, AND pull the machine out AND open the case:
No one knows the level of pain I can inflict on the world!
- I have to do all those things multiple times just to install drivers Apple should have had the forethought to utilize in the 1st place:
Now we're talking singularity levels of devastation, the stars shall fail, the Earth swallowed in a violent and sudden collapse, and time as we know it will seise.
There is a way (expanded AHCI driver file).
I'll send a PM.
Kewl! I'll be on the look out for it! Thanks bro!
<level 5 devastation potentially aborted>And I thought I was bad...Hehhe, let me define my level of laziness for you:
- I have to Shut Down the machine:
Total yuck!
- I have to get out of my chair:
OMG!
- I have to shut down AND get out of my chair:
It better be a new toy, a family vacation, or a hot babe - or I'm killing someone!
- I have to shut down, get out of my chair, AND pull the machine out AND open the case:
No one knows the level of pain I can inflict on the world!
- I have to do all those things multiple times just to install drivers Apple should have had the forethought to utilize in the 1st place:
Now we're talking singularity levels of devastation, the stars shall fail, the Earth swallowed in a violent and sudden collapse, and time as we know it will seise.
Chasing down drivers sucks. Especially when it's for Windows on a Mac, as not everyone will have access to a Windows machine/VM when convenient.
Though this is as much of an issue, given your "collection" of machines.
You've got it. Link and all.Kewl! I'll be on the look out for it! Thanks bro!
I have to do all those things multiple times just to install drivers Apple should have had the forethought to utilize in the 1st place:
You are right there! But how likely is it that Apple will help Billy boy when they can easily make him look worse by sticking something in the wheels? I would think the forethought was there but temptation was too big.
Kewl! I'll be on the look out for it! Thanks bro!
More importantly, we won't have to suffer from Tesselator withdrawl on the boards for too long!
It might depend on how long before he checks back in, and reads the PM.More importantly, we won't have to suffer from Tesselator withdrawl on the boards for too long!
Too long, it's possible he'd end up in the nut house due to a nosey neighbor. "Come quick... the guy next door gone barking mad..."
It might depend on how long before he checks back in, and reads the PM.
Too long, it's possible he'd end up in the nut house due to a nosey neighbor. "Come quick... the guy next door gone barking mad..."
Indeed! It's worse than being plased in a round room and being told to sit in a corner. This is more like being placed in a room with 50 doors all identical and all neeing different card-keys and a pass-codes to open and then being told: "Just go open the door."
I dunno if there is such a thing as sudden retardation but if there is I think I know how it's victems feel.
PS: And now Safari on Vista64 thinks it's finished loading and displaying MacRoumors pages at message number 18 - no matter how many messages there actually are. WHF?!?!?
LOL.Indeed! It's worse than being plased in a round room and being told to sit in a corner. This is more like being placed in a room with 50 doors all identical and all neeing different card-keys and a pass-codes to open and then being told: "Just go open the door."
I dunno if there is such a thing as sudden retardation but if there is I think I know how it's victems feel.
PS: And now Safari on Vista64 thinks it's finished loading and displaying MacRoumors pages at message number 18 - no matter how many messages there actually are. WHF?!?!?
I don't know about the latest Safari, but last time I tried the Windows version, it didn't fair too well at all.
LOL.
I don't know about the latest Safari, but last time I tried the Windows version, it didn't fair too well at all.
After typing that I have discovered that it's doing it in all three browsers. Safari, Explorer, and FF. LOL
Hmm.... I'll send another PM. The response might help get you to the best starting point.
Just for confirmation. I had initially no RAID installed when I did the AHCI drivers. But now I have added a RAID0 pair and it has made no difference to the drivers. So you can definitely take out a RAID and then fit it back after installing the AHCI driver.
Don't mean to highjack this thread but do have a question on boot camp. Actually, just wondering if this would work to get windows installed easier.
1. Use bootcamp to set up an internal disk. Stop there.
2. Remove the drive and hook it up to a windows machine as an external drive and install windows.
3. Put the drive back into the mac pro.
4. Hold down option key to boot into windows.
I have never messed with bootcamp. I use fusion instead. Getting kind of interested in boot camping windows 7 64 bit. Not sure its worth the hassle though.
1. Use bootcamp to set up an internal disk. Stop there.
2. Remove the drive and hook it up to a windows machine as an external drive and install windows.
3. Put the drive back into the mac pro.
4. Hold down option key to boot into windows.
I have never messed with bootcamp. I use fusion instead. Getting kind of interested in boot camping windows 7 64 bit. Not sure its worth the hassle though.
On a Mac Pro you do not need Bootcamp to make a second partition like you do in a MacBook or MBP. You can simply start the installation CD/DVD of Windows select the drive you want and let Windows install. When it is ready installed you use the Leopard disk to install the Windows drivers. Thats it. Only when you want multiple partitions on a Windows drive you need to use the GUID partition table and it becomes handy to use the bootcamp assistent for partitioning. But it is not really necessary there either if you know what restrictions to observe.
Be aware that you will never get hard disk performance as in OS X with Windows until you fit the AHCI driver instead of the legacy driver that Apple provides.
Be aware that you will never get hard disk performance as in OS X with Windows until you fit the AHCI driver instead of the legacy driver that Apple provides.
Your steps there probably would be bad. Unless your windows machine had identical hardware to the MacPro.
During installation Windows installs for specific hardware.I think it's worth it to go BootCamp if you're not satisfied with your Fusion performance. I have Fusion and Parallels both. Fusion is the worst and Parallels isn't that much better. Fusion is part of a much larger suite that is just awesome for data-center level virtual desk-top computing so a lot of SSE / SE types like it a lot. I dunno Parallels's background history but on my machine it's more stable and faster. Still neither are really very good. Thus BC. BC runs faster (like normal windows) but booting and rebooting into different OS's without data sharing across storage devices is just lame for anything other than gaming. Parallels will supposedly mount and boot from a BC drive which almost makes the setup bearable from the Apple side. Maybe Mac Drive or something like that would work the same from the Windoze side too - I dunno, I haven't gotten that far yet.
EDIT: Yup, it works!
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So where do i get the AHCI drivers and how do i install them? Am presuming after i have windows running and do the update. Just got an email from microsoft that theres 1 month left to download windows 7 for free. I have the 32 bit on my macbook through fusion but want the 64 bit on the pro. Think i will give it a shot but will take your sugestion and try to install straight from disk to a clean hard drive and see what happens. Thanks for your help.
It will not hurt to partition the drive with HFS+ and GUID option. It gives more flexibility.
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/T8C...All&OSFullName=All Operating Systems&lang=eng
You can download it with the MB and unpack it. There is a 64 bit and a 32 bit version.
It may work without patching the MBR if you slipstream the drivers into the setup disk. If you cannot do it you should make a full install with all updates and make a Winclone backup before you start modding the registry and the MBR.
BootCamp General Question
Seems that there are of lot of smart folks in this thread so I will ask this question.
Does anyone know why sometimes (like in Tess' case) when you try to install Windows with BootCamp, it works fine, you don't need to format the drive and other times you do?
I had to reinstall XP on my wife's iMac last night, and converting the drive to NTFS made it unusable for Windows to install. Quick formatting it to NTFS made it work fine.
I cannot guess the reason at this.
Seems that there are of lot of smart folks in this thread so I will ask this question.
Does anyone know why sometimes (like in Tess' case) when you try to install Windows with BootCamp, it works fine, you don't need to format the drive and other times you do?
I had to reinstall XP on my wife's iMac last night, and converting the drive to NTFS made it unusable for Windows to install. Quick formatting it to NTFS made it work fine.
I cannot guess the reason at this.
There is only one safe way to do it. Always format with the Windows install disk. Partitioning depends of the history and wether you have multiple partitions on the drive. If the drive is fresh and unpartitioned you may use the Windows partitioning tool. If you have partitioned the drive with disk utility you mustn't touch it with partitioning under Windows. It will give you media errors or missing hal.dll errors.
There's a strong possibility that you could be more right than I about this. I probably didn't give Fusion a fair try. I installed it and set up a VM. Booted and it hung and lagged so bad I just stayed with Parallels. But...
When I just now (in the post above) used Parallels again to VC the bootcamp drive it was the same story. Lag and hang. Until - I went through the settings and set it up right (for speedier performance).
So I wonder what the experience would have been had I done that for fusion?