When anyone with a social security number dies, that number becomes a matter of public record.
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Steve Jobs' 1991 FBI File Released, Reveals Consideration for Presidential Appointment
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When anyone with a social security number dies, that number becomes a matter of public record.
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/ssdi/search_ssdi.asp
Nothing but a positive. 150%. The industry is living inside the "distortion field" today - and desperately trying to do it justice, but with varying degrees of success.
We can thank Jobs and all his qualities - positive AND negative - for the modern mobile devices we have today (to name just ONE contribution of his), from which we have the luxury of making our self-righteous forum posts.
Without Apple and Steve Jobs, the industry would still be fumbling around in the dark ages of tech. Jobs humanized tech and made it usable for everyone.
Because this is how our Government works. They keep secret files on you, you request them through the FOIA and they release it all to the public to damage you.
If we had common sense people working in government, we wouldn't be $15 trillion in debt, in unsustainable wars, and a country that hurts those who try to start up their own businesses.
Steve Jobs created the Mac? That's news to me.
Wait...what's that? You mean APPLE COMPUTER and a group of employees designed the Mac....yeah, that rings a bell.
So many people on this site think Jobs built/designed everything. He built/designed nothing. Apple has/had teams of employees that designed/built products. Sure, Jobs likely had his approval/input on a LOT of the designs...he probably thought up a few concepts which turned into products...but let's give credit where it's due.
No kidding, I'd be mad if I was a design engineer or UI tech at Apple and someone else was getting all of the credit. Let's be real, he didn't create iOS, or the iPhone, or any of the products. The apple engineers did, the ones who's names we will never know because we don't bother to look into patent filings.
Yeah because conservative christian fundamentalists aren't living in a reality distortion field...
Take Steve Jobs out of Apple.
What's left? Not a whole helluva lot. Now, put Steve Jobs back into Apple, and you've got where Apple is and what they achieved today. None of it would have worked without him.
You have no real job correct? We have a manager that deals with people. She sends out emails to people saying "here is the video you requested" and all day long there are thank you emails to her and not me (the producer/editor). Deal with it. It's the way it is.
Again - I find it funny/sad that you refuse to acknowledge Motorola and its contributions to the industry "and look at where we are today" because of them but post things like this about Steve.
It's all well and good. Steve did change the industry and deserves credit. He and his entire team. That doesn't negate those that came before him, LTD.
That MAY be true...we'll never know.
But there's a difference in people using words like "create" or "design" or "build". Those words have purpose and definition...and they do not apply to Mr. Steve Jobs other than starting the Apple Computer company in the 70s.
His/Apple's employees (remember that Woz guy?) designed, built, tested, etc. products. Just like Microsoft. Just like Pioneer. Just like Sony. Just like Samsung. Just like every other company on the face of the planet that has more than 1 employee.
There is no doubt that Steve (and others) had significant input into the look/feel and overall user experience of Apple products. But that does not mean he designed them...and is not the same definition as design/build/create. I'm sure he woke up one day and said "man, my cellphone stinks...Apple should try making a better one" and went off to work and pulled a team together with a vision and timeframe.
My wife decides on all the colors and trim in our house...did she design/build the house? Nope. Is it a wonderful house? Yes.
Everyone who has ever had a SSN and is now dead is listed on the Social Security Death Index and the index is freely available on the web.
This is up there with some of the most interesting news about Steve I've never known. Interesting, considering Obama was in contact with Steve on a few issues.
Steve had a lot of power and influence in the world. Perhaps connections to Al Gore being on his board are a product of some of those 'interesting connections from way back when'.
I love reading some of this stuff. If it weren't for this site posting this kind of news, I probably wouldn't read it anywhere.
Good job, MacRumors.
Steve had a lot of power and influence in the world. Perhaps connections to Al Gore being on his board are a product of some of those 'interesting connections from way back when'.
I love reading some of this stuff. If it weren't for this site posting this kind of news, I probably wouldn't read it anywhere.
Good job, MacRumors.It can be nothing but true.
Had Gil Amelio not brought Jobs back, there wouldn't even be an Apple to see today.
That is my belief, too....but it's not fact since we don't have a time machine.
As you've seen, the industry has not, since that time, been able to produce another Steve Jobs-like figure. And as we're seeing today after his death, there is a conspicuous lack of such an individual. Maybe they're out there - maybe in the form of an older Scott Forstall (?), but given Apple's results and achievements (especially recently) compared to everyone else, they haven't come out of the shadows yet.
It doesn't need to be fact, just a damned lucid inference.
This is up there with some of the most interesting news about Steve I've never known. Interesting, considering Obama was in contact with Steve on a few issues.
Steve had a lot of power and influence in the world. Perhaps connections to Al Gore being on his board are a product of some of those 'interesting connections from way back when'.
I love reading some of this stuff. If it weren't for this site posting this kind of news, I probably wouldn't read it anywhere.
I agree; this sort of stuff is interesting to read and, as it is now legally in the public domain, I don't see a problem with posting it.
Besides, it is perfectly possible to be a visionary genius with impeccable taste, and an unpleasant irresponsible (see the Lisa story) and controlling human being at the same time. Jobs was all that and more.
SSN should CERTAINLY been redacted...
This is not information that should be in the public domain (whether living or dead). The Freedom of Information act is good in many ways...but damn...this is a blatant violation of the late Steve Jobs' privacy. Shame on those who chose to release it!
This is not information that should be in the public domain (whether living or dead). The Freedom of Information act is good in many ways...but damn...this is a blatant violation of the late Steve Jobs' privacy. Shame on those who chose to release it!
I'm not sure what you mean by another figure. Mr. Bill Gates sure was world-known...so was Jack Welch...and Michael Dell.
Many CEOs of companies that produce consumer products are well known. Tim Cook may be well-known years from now.
As for your "lucid" point...it doesn't matter...that is your belief. Beliefs are beliefs...regardless of how many people agree with the belief.
Let's also not forget that Jobs started Apple back in the 70s and the company did ok...he was not world famous in the 70s or 80s...Apple products did not dominate back then (although they were popular). Jobs left Apple...came back years later and took a company that was ready to file bankruptcy/be sold and turned it into what it is today by VISION and LEADERSHIP.