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4000 lattes for an audience of how many? What is the seating capacity of the Moscone Centre West ?

I guess if Steve had been a little more aware of the situation he might have wanted to cover up the phone number and location of the Starbucks. But it seemed like the whole order coffee idea was spontaneous.
 
Only marginally related, but I enjoyed watching the embedded video here that includes his call. He's showing off mobile Safari and the audience is ooo-ing aah-ing about things that today we take pretty much for granted (scrolling and panning on websites, zooming in, etc.) but were, in fact, fairly unusual among the crude mobile browsers at the time.

Of course, at the time, mobile-tailored websites were much less common, and I really don't care for some (or worse ones), but it's still neat to think how advanced this was for the time.
 
And I came in here thinking that there was some Starbucks app that rewarded you if you "checked-in" via your iPhone on your 4,000th coffee or something. Oh well... :p
 
This is usually the reaction from people who never went past a retail job. Sorry, but those jobs are supposed to be for teenagers and college students. Maybe retirees. Everyone else should have a job that actually accomplishes something. Get training and go work in a factory or bakery or construction site or whatever. Not everything worthwhile requires college. But standing behind a counter for 20 years handing out coffee? I'd rather be dead.


I know a teacher who has a part time job at a coffee shop. He loves it more than teaching.
 
If it takes you more than a "half-decade" to finish college and get a real job, that's just sad. Making expensive coffee for hipsters is not a career.

Neither is working at Canadian Tire (basically Home Depot meets Harbor Freight), but that's what I did part time while I was working through my Master's degree. It's hard to live solely on scholarship and grant money.

I met some judgemental types, too, including one guy who came in wearing a <company-name> jacket and looked straight down his nose at me the whole time I was helping him, with this attitude like "Well I'm glad I have an education and have made more of my life than this minimum wage loser". Except the joke was on him: I worked at <company-name> too, before I started my second engineering degree.

You don't know enough about her situation to judge, so please don't.

Oh, and by the way: I think that every kid should experience spending some time working retail and helping other people. Some of the self-entitled people that came through my store were unbelievable. Just because you wear a (red, blue, green, take your pick) uniform, suddenly they think you're less than human. Being on the receiving end of that for a little while will remind you quickly to show respect to your fellow human.
 
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Imagine if Microsoft or BlackBerry copied Apple to the point of crank calling people during their keynotes for their phones? :)
 
This is usually the reaction from people who never went past a retail job. Sorry, but those jobs are supposed to be for teenagers and college students. Maybe retirees. Everyone else should have a job that actually accomplishes something. Get training and go work in a factory or bakery or construction site or whatever. Not everything worthwhile requires college. But standing behind a counter for 20 years handing out coffee? I'd rather be dead.

I think I'd rather be dead than be you :D
 
This is usually the reaction from people who never went past a retail job. Sorry, but those jobs are supposed to be for teenagers and college students. Maybe retirees. Everyone else should have a job that actually accomplishes something. Get training and go work in a factory or bakery or construction site or whatever. Not everything worthwhile requires college. But standing behind a counter for 20 years handing out coffee? I'd rather be dead.

This comment is so full of ignorance I don't even know where to begin. Attitudes like this are why unemployment rates in the US are through the roof.
 
4000 lattes for an audience of how many? What is the seating capacity of the Moscone Centre West ?

I guess if Steve had been a little more aware of the situation he might have wanted to cover up the phone number and location of the Starbucks. But it seemed like the whole order coffee idea was spontaneous.
Two things struck me about the video. One was that Steve was so comfortable onstage, not lecturing us but just chatting with us. I'd almost forgotten the fun of those keynotes. Perhaps he carefully planned and rehearsed that phone call, but if not it would fit his casual style onstage.

The second thing that struck me is that before that day we apparently didn't expect to be able to pull a phone out of our pocket and look at the Eiffel Tower anytime we wanted. How did we manage to live in such a primitive world before the iPhone?
 
This is usually the reaction from people who never went past a retail job. Sorry, but those jobs are supposed to be for teenagers and college students. Maybe retirees. Everyone else should have a job that actually accomplishes something. Get training and go work in a factory or bakery or construction site or whatever. Not everything worthwhile requires college. But standing behind a counter for 20 years handing out coffee? I'd rather be dead.

Y'know that stereotype that Apple users are elitist douchebags? You're not helping to disprove that.
 
So I suppose you've been a retail employee for more than 5 years then?

You like to make wild assumptions that have no basis in reality.

From what I gather - you're young and naive. Take my advice or not - learn to be more respectful of people in general. Whether they are posters here on the board, mopping up the bathroom you just used, or the next CEO you might be talking to.
 
You like to make wild assumptions that have no basis in reality.

From what I gather - you're young and naive. Take my advice or not - learn to be more respectful of people in general. Whether they are posters here on the board, mopping up the bathroom you just used, or the next CEO you might be talking to.

You're the one making assumptions. I never suggested that anyone be rude to people because of the job they have chosen to do. If they are doing a good job and they help me finish my business with that company, then great. If they are extra helpful, they will get my long-lasting appreciation.

But I would hope that people would strive for something more than entry-level minimum wage jobs. I've watched people who were straight-A students go on to college and then somehow end up working at Best Buy or Starbucks. How does that happen? Why would you choose to take $8/hour when you could be making $28/hour? A portion of them are probably drunks or drug addicts, but what about the rest?

I stand by my statement that these entry-level jobs should only be a stepping stone to a real career. You can't start a family on $16,000 a year. I couldn't even pay my rent and utilities on that.
 
You're the one making assumptions. I never suggested that anyone be rude to people because of the job they have chosen to do.

Read what I wrote. I didn't say you suggested people be rude to people. But (and perhaps I'm expecting too much of you) showing respect. That means not being condescending to people - either to their face or not - when you have NO idea what their situation is.

Your comments speak volumes about your character. And your lack of understanding of others.

ETA: Done with this and you. Not worth the time and effort. You are who you are. Good luck.
 
If it takes you more than a "half-decade" to finish college and get a real job, that's just sad. Making expensive coffee for hipsters is not a career.

I'm not interested in a career, and maybe I'm not bright enough to get one. I'm just happy doing what I do, paying my way and not living off benefits. Got a problem with that?
 
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