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Steve Jobs alive in Brazil!
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Totally off-topic but a few years before he died, someone interviewing Ray Manzarek asked him if Jim Morrison could have possibly faked his death, gone into hiding, blah, blah,blah. Ray replied with something to the effect of "I know Jim is dead because he isn't calling our label twice a week to bitch about his share of the royalties."
I thought that was funny: Ol Lizard King was as venal and greedy as anyone.
Anyway, speculating about Steve made me think of that story.
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I thought that was funny: Ol Lizard King was as venal and greedy as anyone.
Anyway, speculating about Steve made me think of that story.
/non sequitur
No, merely responding to a post that was both in pretty poor taste, and - unintentionally - a source of no small amusement.
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I too saw him in Brazil. He was wearing a fedora and a paisley scarf. Smoking a pipe he said he was in for some "trouble". Fine young man.
I really don't understand how this can be looked at as amusing. Sorry OP.
I actually feel bad for the poor guy.
I actually feel bad for the poor guy.
It really disgusts me, to me the poor guy obviously isn't vey happy with his surroundings, and people are having a laugh over a senior citizen that is clearly ill?
Call me humorless, but I never considered what looks to be quadriplegia to be a laff riot.
But that's just me...high horse, and all that.
If you are out in public, you do not have any expectation of privacy and I can take your picture and sell it for profit all I want and will not have to compensate you.
At least in the USA, not sure about Brazil.
Imagine how horrible it would be if you had to ask the permission of every single person who happens to be within the frame of your shot to be able to use the picture. I can understand taking a picture of someone on their private property...but in public, everyone should be free game!
As an aside, the man pictured in the OP's picture does resemble Jobs in the later stages of his life. Thanks for sharing!
My thoughts exactly, while en route to the Peace Corps ...
While one may not 'have any expectation of privacy' if one is out in public, as you phrase it, one does - or one ought to be able to have - an expectation of being treated with courtesy and respect while in a public space.
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"expectation of privacy" is not how I put it. It is how it was determined in the courts.
And although I agree with being treated with courtesy and respect while in a public space, I don't see how this picture is discourteous or disrespectful.
if you are in public you can be filmed or photographed without consent. the only time you need to sign a release is if your image is being used to make money for the other person (i.e. advertising).
Doubtless.
However, this thread seems to have evolved into a discussion of four things; the original picture, and whether it is 1) funny (no, it is not - I fail to see the humour in laughing at someone who is clearly ill), 2) whether it is in poor taste to post this, (I personally think that it is), and 3) whether he resembles Steve Jobs (personally, I am utterly indifferent to this).
Then, there is the fourth issue: 4) whether the right to post whatever one likes trumps someone else's expectation of being treated with respect in public. Respect does not vanish simply because one is ill. This is of even greater importance especially when the nature of the pictured individual's illness may well have eroded their autonomy and independence, and their sense of self; it shouldn't have to erode their expectation of being treated with the respect due a human being ..
And no, I really do take issue with the notion that in public everyone 'should be free game'; why should your right to photograph them trump theirs to respect and a recognition of their right to some degree of privacy, or the right to be treated with the respect due a fellow member of the human race? And I say that as someone who actually enjoys street photography, but no, most emphatically, I do not see 'everyone as free game' ...
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I find it possible to laugh at the resemblance alone, not the fact that the man is in a wheelchair.
E.g, "wow- he really looks like Steve Jobs! He even has the right facial hair!"
And not a quite tactless and frightfully inappropriate - "Wow, that man looks a lot like Steve Jobs! And he even has a man to push around his wheelchair!".
Personally, I would never have brought the wheelchair into the discussion for humorous reasons, with repsect to the individual pictured. However, I cannot stop others behavior...
Laugh at the striking resemblance, yes. Laugh at the illness, no.
E.g, "wow- he really looks like Steve Jobs! He even has the right facial hair!"
And not a quite tactless and frightfully inappropriate - "Wow, that man looks a lot like Steve Jobs! And he even has a man to push around his wheelchair!".
Personally, I would never have brought the wheelchair into the discussion for humorous reasons, with repsect to the individual pictured. However, I cannot stop others behavior...
Laugh at the striking resemblance, yes. Laugh at the illness, no.
The guy does bare a striking resemblance to Steve Job's lol. Not sure why he's protected by some people though. I didn't really know an awful lot about Steve Job's until the last year of his life and bought an iPhone only recently. I certainly don't thank him any more than I do the person who designed my toaster, no offence but technology is something I buy and don't expect to be thanked myself for adding to anybodies wealth lol. This sort of spotting is similar to the Elvis, Kurt Cobain, Lord Lucan spots from around the world 
Nobody is laughing at the old man being Ill. Just making the correlation in likeness. Why so many of you feel the need to pull out that rusty high horse is beyond me.
I found it ok, there is resemblance on the face, the OP didn't do it this pic because the man was in a wheelchair, but due to his facial similarities. An almost bald white skinny person with a grey beard. Even SJ can look like Gandhi if it was taken at the right angle.
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