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Exciting

This is going to be an exciting event. The two most important rivals in the technology industry on the same stage. I can't wait. I hope Apple posts a Quick Time stream on the website.
 
This is going to be an exciting event. The two most important rivals in the technology industry on the same stage. I can't wait. I hope Apple posts a Quick Time stream on the website.

Yeah, me too. But it's doubtful, as they didn't do it last time Jobs spoke at 'D', and also it's run by the Wall Street Journal, so I doubt they'd let Apple stream the conference.
 
Apple TV will be Moderately Successful

The Apple TV as it is now will have appeal to loads of people that have downloaded movies off of iTunes, but I think it will really catch on when you can stream content from across the internet to your tv (ie. YouTube) and when the iTs gets more studios and the digital movie phenomenon catches on. I personally am gonna buy one, I love the idea of digital movies.
Edit: wrong post but point still applies.
 
I don't think Apple's going to announce anything at D. It's just a speaking gig. Apple won't even have a booth, I don't believe.

I am sure Steve will release something, he is having one show with bill gates and one on his own, if it was just to talk about current products i doubt he would go, he seems to like making big bold statements and doesn't do anything unless there is something in it for him.
 
I am sure Steve will release something, he is having one show with bill gates and one on his own, if it was just to talk about current products i doubt he would go, he seems to like making big bold statements and doesn't do anything unless there is something in it for him.

I'd love to see him introduce something, but he didn't last time he spoke at 'D', and he didn't when he shared a stage with Michael Dell several days ago either. I just don't want anyone to get their hopes up, expecting new products when historically this has not been the kind of venue for introductions. This is one of those events where they're asked questions like where they think the future of computing is headed, etc.
 
I'd love to see him introduce something, but he didn't last time he spoke at 'D', and he didn't when he shared a stage with Michael Dell several days ago either. I just don't want anyone to get their hopes up, expecting new products when historically this has not been the kind of venue for introductions. This is one of those events where they're asked questions like where they think the future of computing is headed, etc.

But, there have been products released at 'D'. We got the airport express, an iTunes upgrade, and he also talked about the PDA that never was.
 
I think the whole Jobs Vs Gates is created mainly by the "fans" of each brand (both M$ and Apple), as far as I'm concerned Gates and Jobs get along because ultimately they have to. In the current technology market, neither one of them can afford to make a mistake by underestimating the other IMO.

Though I must say, that whole "back-stab" that Gates gave to Steve in the 80's must still be stuck in his throat, I personally don't know if I would ever forgive someone who did that s*** to me :) I can't even imagine what it was, now I can only watch "Pirates of Sillicon Valley" and look at Noah's (acting as Steve) saying "YOU ARE STEALING FROM US!", so scary :D
 
Jobs vs Gates, hmmm, my money is on Jobs.

Maybe it's going to be like the JFK-Nixon debate: people who listened to the the radio version said that Nixon won, but those who watched the TV version said JFK won. Nixon had better points, but JFK didn't look like a crook. I have a feeling that the Jobs/Gates thing is going to be the same way. Gates will have better points, but Jobs would come off as more personable.
 
On D5's site, it lists Steve Ballmer, not Bill Gates as a speaker. (Forgive me if someone has already posted this, I didn't see it when I skimmed before).
 
The Mini is the one that's still in need of revisions, like better max RAM more accessible parts a better processor and so forth.

I've never understood why people feel that the mac mini needs to be user upgradeable. It's not designed to be from the get go. It is designed to be a computer which you unbox, and plug into you existing peripherals and it just works with no fuss. If you want user upgradeability get an iMac or a MacPro. However, the iMac, with something similar to the wat that the Mac Pro switches out hard drives would rock my socks.
 
I've never understood why people feel that the mac mini needs to be user upgradeable. It's not designed to be from the get go. It is designed to be a computer which you unbox, and plug into you existing peripherals and it just works with no fuss. If you want user upgradeability get an iMac or a MacPro. However, the iMac, with something similar to the wat that the Mac Pro switches out hard drives would rock my socks.

But then if the Mini suddenly had a bad drive or bad RAM, I'd have to have it serviced to remove them instead of taking it out myself and switching them with better equipment, which is what I'd rather do anyway, and is what I do with my macbook, which is far more accessible. This isn't too much to ask. It's not just user upgradeability that I'm concerned with, but also ease of faulty part replacement. I'd rather not have a desktop whose innerds are sealed in like my iPod's.
 
But then if the Mini suddenly had a bad drive or bad RAM, I'd have to have it serviced to remove them instead of taking it out myself and switching them with better equipment, which is what I'd rather do anyway, and is what I do with my macbook, which is far more accessible. This isn't too much to ask. It's not just user upgradeability that I'm concerned with, but also ease of faulty part replacement. I'd rather not have a desktop whose innerds are sealed in like my iPod's.

I think the Mini's designed for those people who just need something simple and don't know that much about computers. If the hard drive goes bad, they wouldn't know what to do.

On the other hand, you bring up a good point. There are many people out there who need something simple, but also know how to fix problems they might encounter.

Just remember, most people aren't as computer literate as those who are reading this.
 
I think the Mini's designed for those people who just need something simple and don't know that much about computers. If the hard drive goes bad, they wouldn't know what to do.

On the other hand, you bring up a good point. There are many people out there who need something simple, but also know how to fix problems they might encounter.

Just remember, most people aren't as computer literate as those who are reading this.

See, I'm looking at getting a Mini after the line update, and I would be ticked if I decided to replace the ram and had to take into into ProCare for something as simple as that. Apple can still keep the mini aesthetically pleasing, and add some sort of functionality to open the beast up.
 
The Mini is the one that's still in need of revisions, like better max RAM more accessible parts a better processor and so forth.
If you void the warranty (or wait until your Mac Mini goes out of warranty; the first of them should be expiring in the next few weeks), you can have a Core 2 Duo Mac Mini today. Unlike the MacBook or the MacBook Pro, the Mac Mini's CPU is socketed.

And Merom C2D chips have the same form factor, the same pinout, the same chipset interface, and an extremely similar thermal profile.
 
"Hi I make macs"-Jobs
"And I make PC's"-Bill
"Umm.. I think you mean you 'borrow; ideas from other OS creators."
"Why Mac, why would you think that?"
"Oh... lets look, windows 95 was nothing more then mac '89, and windows vista is nothing more then mac OSX lite."
"That's of no matter, have you seen our new zune, it's the most revolutionary music player to date."
"Oh, you mean the iPod was the most revolutionary music player to date."
"Fine, but our windows media center came out before your :apple:TV."
"Yeah, and the cassette player came out before the iPod, whats your point?"

:D

Maybe Steve could convince Bill to do a Mac vs. PC commercial or two, or at least do a parody of it at the conference. It would show that Bill actually does have a good sense of humor (to make up for his lack of a good OS ;) ).
 
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