Steve Jobs Announces 3rd Party SDK for iPhone for February 2008

[mdriftmeyer]

Thank you to all you whiners and complainers... without you, this wouldn't happen. So, again, Thanks!

And, now that this is going to happen, Skype, get busy creating a VOIP app for me.

Incorrect. This has been planned the same time the iPhone was planned. OS X and Applications are what make a Platform.

 

[PCMacUser]

"And since the iPhone is the most advanced phone ever..."

That's just funny. We all know (even the iPhone lovers) that this is complete garbage.

 

[72930]

"And since the iPhone is the most advanced phone ever..."

That's just funny. We all know (even the iPhone lovers) that this is complete garbage.

So what is the most advanced phone?

 

[dangleheart]

One approach is indeed hardware based (communicates directly with satellites.)
But the lower tech version just uses the Cell towers used by the phone to triangulate on signal strength. Pretty accurate. That can be done in software with stock iPhone. Actually, think it already has been done.

There was a thread that discussed the web site that implemented it. I can not find it now easily. If anyone remembers it better, please post the link to that thread. Thanks.

 

[Shanesan]

"And since the iPhone is the most advanced phone ever..."

That's just funny. We all know (even the iPhone lovers) that this is complete garbage.

As far as a UI and operating system is concerned, the iPhone is definately the most advanced phone ever. Stylish, sleek, colorful and VERY easy to use!

I say this phone IS the best phone ever, and now with a coming SDK, it (and the touch) can only get better.

 

[boss1]

So what is the most advanced phone?

He must be referring to the prototype "XT20 Delta series Interstellar Communicator" issued to James Bond in his upcoming film.


I wonder how much, if any influence the fact that 1.1.1 was cracked in record time had on the timing of this announcement from Apple.

 

[Cleverboy]

"And since the iPhone is the most advanced phone ever..."
That's just funny. We all know (even the iPhone lovers) that this is complete garbage.

Certainly depends on how you look at it doesn't it? I suppose Popular Mechanics dubbing it one of the 10 Break-Thru devices of 2007 doesn't say much, considering you logically can't go to PAST years for the "most advanced" hardware unless a category is virtually standing still. Hm... Yeah, I'd personally say it is the most advanced phone ever. I don't have a high regard for packing in the "most features", when most "feature" phones completely fail at setting new paradigm shifts in mobile computing.

I find myself, even months into owning an iPhone constantly shaking my head in disbelief that the thing is so damn great at its job, and I can only expect MORE from it in the months to come. MORE. Honestly, I don't think I've ever owned a phone I reasonably expected to get exponentially BETTER with time, especially when I'm already more pleased than I've ever been with it.

But, that's just me.

Apple has played a cruel... cruel... CRUEL jest on the competition. Hardware manufacturers have flocked to the iPod because Apple standardized the connector, enabling ongoing support for these devices (meanwhile PLEADING with other manufacturers to do the same, and failing). Now, the iPhone and iPod Touch have the SAME form-factor and multitouch feature-set, enabling application developers to STANDARDIZE their programs to its large screen, and burgeoning customer-base (promised to be 10 million strong by the end of next year). NO OTHER PHONE has the uniformity, technological power, customer-base, and advanced operating environment the iPhone/iPodTouch has/will-have.

It's like the other phone companies will be bringing spitballs to a gun duel... for at least the next 2-3 years... by which point, they'll be royally screwed. I'm looking forward to what Nokia launches in the next year, but I can't do anything but doubt they'll be able to get much working fast enough, now that Apple is gaining critical momentum.

~ CB

 

[Stella]

Incorrect. This has been planned the same time the iPhone was planned. OS X and Applications are what make a Platform.

Don't kid yourself, this is Apple in re-actionary mode. They now realised they have their strategy wrong and cannot keep up with the hackers so they have no choice.... UNLESS you can give us documentary evidence to prove otherwise....

 

[megfilmworks]

There is no doubt that the iPhone is the most modern and advanced phone out there. Period. UI, Safari, Video, iPod, integration with OSX, etc. No pretenders need apply!
And as far as the design? Everything else looks dorky.

And now with legit 3rd party apps to come the cell phone world will forever
be defined as:
BiP and AiP.

 

[megfilmworks]

Don't kid yourself, this is Apple in re-actionary mode. They now realised they have their strategy wrong and cannot keep up with the hackers so they have no choice.... UNLESS you can give us documentary evidence to prove otherwise....

Well Jobs mentions this game plan in print as far back as May....seems like it was planned a long, long time ago.

One month before the iPhone was released:

http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/05/30/steveatd/index.php

 

[boss1]

Well Jobs mentions this game plan in print as far back as May....seems like it was planned a long, long time ago.

One month before the iPhone was released:

http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/05/30/steveatd/index.php

Excerpt from that article:
Later asked by an audience member about writing applications for the iPhone, Jobs said that Apple ultimately wants both the iPhone to be secure and open without compromising either attribute. The last thing Apple wants, he suggested, is an iPhone that can be easily hacked or that crashes as a result of installing third party software.

“I think sometime later this year we will find a way to let third parties write apps and still preserve security. But until we can find that way, we can’t compromise the security of the phone. Nobody’s perfect, but we sure don’t want our phone to crash. We would like to solve this problem, if you could be just a little more patient with us, I think everyone can get what they want,” he said.

Jobs admitted to being wrong about video on the iPod — a concept he initially scoffed at. “I was definitely more skeptical than customers,” he said. “I think video’s here to stay on portable devices.”

Yep you are right, he did say that in May, I remember watching the video feed also.

 

[EspressoLove]

Have fun in never neverland, Peter Pan

Thanks Cleverone, I'll remember that

But your surely dreaded vision for me is single-sided, and you know that.
Because you know that a hacker 'never sleeps', hacker who has been thrown a challenge, who has been publicly slapped in the face.

This time Jobso will be even more protective, but wheel is moving already, and this SDK will be "trojan" [horse] who'll give unseen freedoms for 3rdP. developers.

And as you probably aware, all kinds of various efforts under way, to re-connect those who unlocketh.

So the point is, there might be situation along the way, that it is faithfuls will be more exposed to

whacky world

At least we'll not sit shut on our as@#s, waiting for BigBrotherJobso to acknowledge and promise iCure.

 

[Cleverboy]

I wonder how much, if any influence the fact that 1.1.1 was cracked in record time had on the timing of this announcement from Apple.

Absolutely ZERO. Did you read Fake Steve Jobs earlier announcement, long before 1.1.1 was "cracked".

Fake Steve wrote on October 2nd:
I'm not supposed to tell you this
But there might be an iPhone SDK heading your way later this month, like sometime in the week of Oct. 15. We've taken a lot of grief on this, and, well, we've listened. Okay? I wish I could say more, but I can't.

http://fakesteve.blogspot.com/2007/10/im-not-supposed-to-tell-you-this.html
Which clearly seems to indicate that he'd gotten a tip from the same folks Business Week began sourcing. Moreover, in this very forum, a letter from Jobs was posted saying as much about the "coming soon, we're working on security" speil Jobs has been saying for a while, and shed a little more light on.

This time Jobso will be even more protective, but wheel is moving already, and this SDK will be "trojan" [horse] who'll give unseen freedoms for 3rdP. developers.

Sure, eat what you like, leave the rest on the table... I get it. Much the same way the French Unlock phone will speak volumes, and allow the free unlock community to hopefully catch up to where iPhone Sim Free apparently already is. I get it. Its just... I think most people won't be paying much lip-service or interest in the "hacking" community with a "developer community" at large and going wild. You don't see Nullriver or Lucas Newman sounding off like they're rebels without a cause do you? Just notations about Apple not trying to "control" app deployment, which makes a lot of sense.

~ CB

 

[megfilmworks]

But your surely dreaded vision for me is single-sided, and you know that.
Because you know that a hacker 'never sleeps', hacker who has been thrown a challenge, who has been publicly slapped in the face.

This time Jobso will be even more protective, but wheel is moving already, and this SDK will be "trojan" [horse] who'll give unseen freedoms for 3rdP. developers.

And as you probably aware, all kinds of various efforts under way, to re-connect those who unlocketh.

So the point is, there might be situation along the way, that it is faithfuls will be more exposed to

At least we'll not sit shut on our as@#s, waiting for BigBrotherJobso to acknowledge and promise iCure.

If you write code like you write copy, I think I'll stick with Apple.

 

[EspressoLove]

Incorrect. This has been planned the same time the iPhone was planned. OS X and Applications are what make a Platform.

Yep you are right, he did say that in May, I remember watching the video feed also.

Well Jobs mentions this game plan in print as far back as May....seems like it was planned a long, long time ago.

One month before the iPhone was released:

http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/05/30/steveatd/index.php

What is it with all you people, are you all sooo short on memory (bad one).

You don't remember what it turned out to be?

"SWEET SDK", that is!

Don't you see now, that it's the same Jobso, pulling the same tricks of calming down (doubting zealots, hackers just hate him) with the SAME junk, he gave last time?

 

[macridah]

oh yeah. i think steve listened and reacted accordingly.

 

[megfilmworks]

What is it with all you people, are you all sooo short on memory (bad one).

You don't remember what it turned out to be?

"SWEET SDK", that is!

Don't you see now, that it's the same Jobso, pulling the same tricks of calming down (doubting zealots, hackers just hate him) with the SAME junk, he gave last time?

I'd like to comment, but I don't understand what you are trying to say.

 

[EspressoLove]

I'd like to comment, but I don't understand what you are trying to say.

That "solution" turned out to be "Safari SDK".

 

[EspressoLove]

Thank you to all you whiners and complainers... without you, this wouldn't happen. So, again, Thanks!

And, now that this is going to happen, Skype, get busy creating a VOIP app for me.

Incorrect. This has been planned the same time the iPhone was planned. OS X and Applications are what make a Platform.

So you are saying that your 100$ pittance was planned all the "same time the iPhone was planned"?

 

[72930]

That "solution" turned out to be "Safari SDK".

You think this will just be SafariSDK v.2? I really, really, really don't from the wording...

 

[THE JUICEMAN]

I find myself, even months into owning an iPhone constantly shaking my head in disbelief that the thing is so damn great at its job, and I can only expect MORE from it in the months to come. MORE. Honestly, I don't think I've ever owned a phone I reasonably expected to get exponentially BETTER with time, especially when I'm already more pleased than I've ever been with it.

This is one of the best things about the iPhone that I think many people consistently overlook. What other phone out there can you plug into your computer and easily receive software updates that add to and enhance the device(home button double tap, louder speaker volume, security. so far.....)? I don't know of any phones like this (please correct me if I'm wrong). Only ONE of the reasons why the iPhone is so great and just maybe "the most advanced phone ever." According to good ole' Steve.

 

[megfilmworks]

The SDK for Web 2 is already in play. This announcement today sounds like a more comprehensive solution.

 

[EspressoLove]

You think this will just be SafariSDK v.2? I really, really, really don't from the wording...

Oh no, absolutely not, he's sly but not stupid.

mmmm .... you know what "periphrasis" means, do you

I think [his] plan is to split, divert efforts of hacking swarm, so to lure some into "legitimate" ways.
Hope we can come up with something as sleek as AppTap, which will let devs to create their wares on SDK2.0, but then with a little effort skip "security" measures set by Jobso, just like iNdep does/feels.

 

[72930]

Oh no, absolutely not, he's sly but not stupid.

mmmm .... you know what "periphrasis" means, do you

I think [his] plan is to split, divert efforts of hacking hive, so to lure some into "legitimate" ways.
Hope we can come up with something as sleek as AppTap, which will let devs to create their wares on SDK2.0, but then with a little effort skip "security" measures set by Jobso, just like iNdep does/feels.

I can almost guarantee that Apple's method will be slicker than AppTap...I'm just worried it won't be free...

 

[EspressoLove]

You think this will just be SafariSDK v.2? I really, really, really don't from the wording...

Although you've set me in motion. Maybe he is that stupid???

Last time (all the times actually) nobody knew it would be "Safari SDK", everybody believed BigChairmanJobso, and that his plan is holy and good for you, till the moment of truth of course.