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Steve Jobs Announces 3rd Party SDK for iPhone for February 2008

Analog Kid said:
My guess is this SDK won't be backwards compatible with existing phones. I expect this will be released at the same time as the next gen iPhone.
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Not a chance. It would shoot their entire 'software based' device positioning in the foot. The only reason to orphan an existing platform would be that it doesn't have the processing power or memory to run a newer OS or apps, and I've never seen any manufacturer orphan the immediately preceeding version.
Check out the compatability list for Leopard that just came out. Compatability goes back quite a ways.

Edit: Correction... MS shoots their customers/partners in the back, not the foot. See the way Zune DRM is incompatible with existing licensees of MS DRM.
 
That sounds really exciting! I'm looking forward to see what kind of apps will be available from February on.
 
alFR said:
Good news. GPS app for me, please (either standalone or integrating bluetooth GPS with Google Maps).

/me waits for the haters to find something else to attack now the SDK's out of the firing line.... :)
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GPS for me, too. But, can software alone result in a true gps system? Or would it be a cell tower triangulation sort of thing?

Add a bigger optional remote screen that could be operated via bluetooth or wire. It could be used for very visable in-car navigation and easily moved to be used for other things elsewhere.
 
Sweet

Great long awaited news....now maybe Apple will add mail and maps to the Touch before Feb...
 
Hell yeah.

There is going to be a mad rush on these apps.

You can bet there will be a ton of developers wanting to learn Cocoa now ;)
 
KJK4734 said:
chr1s60 said:
I was wondering this myself. I own an 8GB, but space is still an issue. That could be one huge advantage with apps through iTunes. This would allow users to purchase whatever apps they wanted and select what ones they wanted to sync to their phone. Just an idea. I am also curious what these apps will do to battery life.
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Great point, if they can be added or deleted through Itunes just like a movie or TV show that would mean you could get as many as you wanted and just change them out for ones that you want on at that time, I do this alot right now putting on different movies and shows every now and then to freshen up my chices since im pretty much out of available space
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I don't know... What happen with ipod games? I never bought any (yet) but a friend who did, told me that you could choose to sync *all* the games you bought or not any... via iTunes (meaning you can't choose which one to sync). Is that true?
 
nukiduz said:
Is a GPS app possible? I thought it was something more related to hardware than to software...
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One approach is indeed hardware based (communicates directly with satellites.)
But the lower tech version just uses the Cell towers used by the phone to triangulate on signal strength. Pretty accurate. That can be done in software with stock iPhone. Actually, think it already has been done.
 
TitoC said:
"But, it won't work on the 1,000,000 + plus iPhones we have already sold, only on these new ones which we are releasing today" (2-minute boos & hisses).
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He wouldn't make it off the stage alive. :eek:
 
GQB said:
One approach is indeed hardware based (communicates directly with satellites.)
But the lower tech version just uses the Cell towers used by the phone to triangulate on signal strength. Pretty accurate. That can be done in software with stock iPhone. Actually, think it already has been done.
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Pretty accurate..., to within 6 city blocks:) LOL.
 
mainstreetmark said:
No, man. I don't want Apple in the loop for ANY of this software application stuff., especially not for billing. There are niches out there where we need to develop and install our own apps, and for the only way to distribute is have Apple reselling them just won't work.
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Don't get yourself set up for disappointment here. I'll put good $$ on the iTunes distribution model (its how everything else gets onto the iPhone after all) and also gives them the opportunity to vet for performance, battery usage, etc.
Remember, no matter what an independent developer claims, it'll be Apple that takes the blame.
They'll also take a modest pound of flesh... it is their store after all.
Actually, even if there were multiple purchase avenues, I'd probably (personally) opt to buy via iTunes. They at least have a good track record with me (vs. a potential 'iHackStores'.
 
mainstreetmark said:
There won't be because the market will kill them, just as it has done for computers for YEARS. YEARS, man.
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Ahhh... the fatal flaw of the market.
Frankly, it doesn't do me any good to see a manufacturer of anything 'punished' by the market after I've suffered damage. Capitalism's flaw (vis-a-vis safety, environmental issues, social responsibility) is that it only deals with negligent or criminal behavior AFTER the barn door is open.

There are good cases for pro-active protection that the market doesn't provide.
 
Thank you to all you whiners and complainers... without you, this wouldn't happen. So, again, Thanks! :)

And, now that this is going to happen, Skype, get busy creating a VOIP app for me. :)
 
GQB said:
Ahhh... the fatal flaw of the market.
Frankly, it doesn't do me any good to see a manufacturer of anything 'punished' by the market after I've suffered damage. Capitalism's flaw (vis-a-vis safety, environmental issues, social responsibility) is that it only deals with negligent or criminal behavior AFTER the barn door is open.

There are good cases for pro-active protection that the market doesn't provide.
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I, again, must bring up the example of a Macintosh running OSX. Buyer beware of malware.

Yes, there are probably cases where more control ("protection") would prevent some problems, but it comes at the expense of freedom for everyone. In this age of immediate feedback, if someone finds a particular application is mal, it'll be on the net in moments, just as it is on the Mac.

So, again, I'd prefer to be free to make mistakes. I prefer to be a bit bleeding edge on occasion. If you don't, you can still be 100% safe by sticking to known developers if you prefer. You may even stick to those apps which Apple chooses to list on Apple.com, but I do not want to be *limited* to them.

In the end, it's either all of us on the net, or the 9-to-5'ers at Apple who discover malware.
 
alywa said:
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As far as $9.99 being too hight... have you actually ever priced software? Good stuff is expensive,
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I think 9.99 is too expensive for standard apps, but however major applications may be able to justify charging that much. But just because software is expensive, doesn't make it better. I don't want to start a windows vs OSX debate, but you can compare prices of the two OSes, or compare iWork and MS Office.

I would hope that the recent directory of WebApps for iPhone/touch is a bit of a trial on how real apps are to be distributed. Similar in the way that there is a dashboard widgets, and mac applications directory on apples website, I would hope that a similar style would follow for Mobi-OSX.
 
I'm sorry if this has already been asked, but the fact that this includes development for the iPod Touch, does that mean it is just a matter of time until we can input stuff onto the calender and do all that "PDA" stuff? I mean, the demand is there, and if Apple doesn't do it, someone else will....so should we be seeing that update soon? It's the only reason I have not bought a Touch yet.
 
I'd agree with GQB, until I hear otherwise I'm going to assume the worst case scenario: the Sidekick catalog method. Everything including updates would have to be (slowly) approved by Apple, a $5-$10 charge for most apps and games, no uploading of non-catalog apps unless you have a dev key. Sadly, even the previously free telnet/SSH client now costs $10 on a Sidekick.
 
twoodcc said:
i'm sure this will make many happy. looking forward to new apps in Feb :cool:
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doubt the apps will actually release in febuary...but is there actually an estimate on when the apps will be out? maybe I'm getting this wrong but I thought the code is released to developers in febuary, not the apps themselves...
 
mainstreetmark said:
I, again, must bring up the example of a Macintosh running OSX. Buyer beware of malware.

Yes, there are probably cases where more control ("protection") would prevent some problems, but it comes at the expense of freedom for everyone. In this age of immediate feedback, if someone finds a particular application is mal, it'll be on the net in moments, just as it is on the Mac.

So, again, I'd prefer to be free to make mistakes. I prefer to be a bit bleeding edge on occasion. If you don't, you can still be 100% safe by sticking to known developers if you prefer. You may even stick to those apps which Apple chooses to list on Apple.com, but I do not want to be *limited* to them.

In the end, it's either all of us on the net, or the 9-to-5'ers at Apple who discover malware.
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Somethings can be tolerated more on PCs than they would be on consumer devices.

You may want to control your iPhone, but in order to do so, it would probably be at the expense of other users of the device. To turn it around, why should OTHERS be limited and inconvenienced by YOUR control freak impulses?
 
mainstreetmark said:
Yes, there are probably cases where more control ("protection") would prevent some problems, but it comes at the expense of freedom for everyone.
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Just saying that the model of 'let the damage happen first, then seek remedy' is fine for trivial things (like, say, a hung computer... although in our age, even that can mean life or death.) But that just doesn't scale when the victims (sorry, there really are such things) are suffering from medical malpractice, food contamination, or environmental poisoning.

I just make it a point to point out the fallacies of the religion of the 'free market'.

Carry on. :)
 
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