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Steve Jobs Announces 3rd Party SDK for iPhone for February 2008

or maybe not

DTphonehome said:
The hardware is there...it can easily be added by software. This could well be the Trojan Newton.
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Handwriting would obviously have to be done with a stylus, and I thought that the iphone screen sensitivity system precluded stylus use. And there may be other issues such as glass thickness, etc. to be considered when pressing on with a pointed object. Don't know, just posing a question.
 
Rom Rim said:
Uh - NO. And why only some and not all? Jobs has his back to the wall. If he doesn't and hasn't it's his own fault. And this after breaking people's devices - as many pundits say further it was done deliberately.

You may gain a few dorky apps for your precious iPhone but the basic tenet of Steve Jobs "to own and have a 100% grasp on the whole banana" has not changed and never will change. Steve Jobs is the antithesis of open source and open systems. He hates those things. Period. So you get what he gives you - or in this case after Nokia surged through the gaffe what he is forced to give you. Again, this might be perception only as regards the iPhone but Jobs had many chances. He could have nixed the idea of making bricks out of expensive devices. He could have spoken sooner. Etc. His reaction now is embarrassingly too close to the recent Nokia campaign. And finally, again, this is how Steve Jobs is. He wants the whole banana. If you like his banana, then go for it but don't expect people who are more wide awake and free thinking than you to "shut up now". Nothing's essentially changed.

I gotta leave this part in because it's so cool. :D
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Yep, he sure hates open source which is why Mac OS X is based on open source software as is Safari and a large number of their other technologies. You're just pissed because they did what they probably planned to do all along and now you can't complain about it anymore.
 
OK, some one catch me up on the happenings.

At the 1.1.1 update the argument seemed go something like:

Hackers - This sucks. We have to jump through more hoops to get programs on the phone. Why won't Apple open up the platform?

Defenders - It's your own fault. No one needs third party programs. Get over it. MALWARE!!!!!!


Fast forward to today's news:

Hackers - Sweet. We're getting what we wanted.

Defenders - Sweet. Now I can't wait to get 3rd party apps. I hope you whiners are happy.


I guess I just don't understand how we went from berating people for wanting an open platform to cheering Apple for opening the platform while still berating people for wanting it in the first place.

Admittedly, some of you seem to be in a different boat where you thought the SDK was coming and that people should shut up and wait for it. That's more understandable.

Edit: BTW, I don't have an iPhone or Touch
 
PlaceofDis said:
probably will be though, makes the most sense. since thats what you'll need to use to sync the apps onto it.
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I should clarify I meant the iTunes Store. I don't want to be limited to just purchasing Apple-approved applications from the iTunes Store.
 
This is absolutely tremendous news! This could even make me get an iPhone even without 3G.

I'm a bit excited about this :)
 
farmboy said:
Handwriting would obviously have to be done with a stylus, and I thought that the iphone screen sensitivity system precluded stylus use. And there may be other issues such as glass thickness, etc. to be considered when pressing on with a pointed object. Don't know, just posing a question.
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Why the need for handwriting recognition? With the advent of mass computer use, most people's handwriting is deplorable. Data entry would probably be faster with the virtual keypad than with handwriting+stylus.
 
finally a Newton sucessor!

Now with a full blown SDK from Apple on the horizon I can finally retire my trusty old Newton2100 and jump straight into the future.

I just wonder, how the rest of the mobile phone industry will sell any high end phones anymore. Maybe Apple can/will license OSX to other phone manufacturers, too?
 
Let the waiting begin. February sure seems like a long time away. It's like being back in March of this year, waiting for June 29th.

I wonder if this means Apple will stop trying to slam the door on 3rd party apps now.

I also wonder how easily the current crop of apps will be converted to the SDK specs. I don't know what I'd do without Taskbar Notifier!
 
crisc said:
Thanks Steve for the news, but thank him even more for saving thousands of posts on forums about how lame the iphone is because it is not opened to third party development.

Say goodbye to unlocking sims and jailbreaking programs.

I hope you will be happy with your 1.1? firmware.
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I wouldn't say goodbye to unlocking just yet, didn't you hear Apple/Orange HAVE TO sell unlocked iPhones in France and that will (if nothing else) keep the unlocking lifeline alive one way or another.

I know you really wanted to but hey one can still hope right?
 
Good news. GPS app for me, please (either standalone or integrating bluetooth GPS with Google Maps).

/me waits for the haters to find something else to attack now the SDK's out of the firing line.... :)
 
jaw04005 said:
I should clarify I meant the iTunes Store. I don't want to be limited to just purchasing Apple-approved applications from the iTunes Store.
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ah yes i agree. i hope its more of just a distribution area, kinda like the podcast section.
 
Finally! Now the complaining can stop! I am glad Apple announced this now instead of waiting til MacWorld. This makes me think two things. First off, I am guessing they announced now in order to attempt to stop people from hacking their phones. Second, this makes me think there will be some other type of big announcement involving iPhone at MacWorld. I originally thought this would be the big one, but instead there will probably be something else announced and Jobs will probably preview a 3rd party app or two.

Apple is really on a roll this week! Leopard yesterday, SDK today, I can't wait to see what they announce tomorrow!
 
chr1s60 said:
Finally! Now the complaining can stop! I am glad Apple announced this now instead of waiting til MacWorld. This makes me think two things. First off, I am guessing they announced now in order to attempt to stop people from hacking their phones. Second, this makes me think there will be some other type of big announcement involving iPhone at MacWorld. I originally thought this would be the big one, but instead there will probably be something else announced and Jobs will probably preview a 3rd party app or two.

Apple is really on a roll this week! Leopard yesterday, SDK today, I can't wait to see what they announce tomorrow!
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That would be the 3G iPhone.;)
 
w00master said:
These "hacktards" are the ones that really PUSH technology forward. Without these "hacktards" we wouldn't have killer apps such as "VisiCalc." Heck, Woz himself is a "hacktard." So get off your high horse and OPEN YOUR MIND.

w00master
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I was calling out the iPhone Hacktards and their whining audience.

So who is on the horse now?
 
My bet is that it will be a iTunes only distribution of prgrams. So no fancy open source applications for a while. On the other hand I can perfectly understand them that they do not open it now. The current closed setup is the perfect leakhole test for them. If there are holes to come in they will be found and exploited in order to run custom apps at the moment. So they kind of benefit from that.
 
neven said:
... I don't think you'll see VoIP or IM, at least not until they can either convince AT&T to go with it or find a way not to lose money on it themselves (if they believe they would)...
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I do understand that to see VoIP is impossible because ATT will lose ton of money, but on the other hand I don't get why IM shouldn't be available. I don't think that IM will go against text messages, since they are two different things.

i.e. If i want to send a message to a friend waiting for me, i'll use text message since he won't be in front of the computer; otherwise i'll use IM to chat.

Please correct me if i'm wrong but i don't see the two conflicting with each other.
 
I skimmed this thread, but as you may suspect, this makes my day.

1. I have never seen such a polar rating for a thread: Rating (369 Positives; 18 Negatives)
2. If this news makes you nervous because someone else isn't protecting you, feel free to not install apps, or better yet, stick to a land line
3. If you still think this is somehow bad, again, no one's forcing you. You can leave.

For me, I'm already dreaming of a proper weather application, and, perhaps more important for me and my industry, a remote power distribution/generator control center. Something which is impractical in a webpage, and something a closed/controlled development environment would never produce.

PS: I might also try my bouncing-breast application. You know, the phone does have a motion sensor. ... and multitouch. ...and vibrate. OK, back to work.
 
Sweet announcement. I'm expecting they'll control the distribution from iTunes and only allow developers with an ADC account. I just hope they don't try to go with some subscription thing like other carriers have and that you buy the rights to the app outright.

Now, since Leopard is announced....how long until we expect a nice iPhone update to further integrate into Mail, etc. I saw some in depth reviews of new features in Leopard and theres some cool iPhone specific features :)
 
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