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Your post seems to be even more stupid!
Lacking counter-arguments so you have to be impolite? Or why did you completely fail to comment on my arguments?

There is no analogy, because the iPhone 2G, iPod Touch 1G and iPhone 3G have the same hardware.
Really the same hardware? Can you back up that claim with proof? As i already wrote in my first reply, they may _appear_ to be the same, but don't necessarily _need_ to be, only because some _parts_ seem to be the same. And unless you are working in Apples R&D department or in the factory actually producing the iPhones i deny your competence for judgement in that area!

If you don't believe me, take a look at the respective teardowns for both devices:

iPhone 2G:
http://www.eetimes.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=200001811

Logic board #1: http://i.cmpnet.com/techonline/uth/iPhone1_High.jpg
Logic board #2: http://i.cmpnet.com/techonline/uth/iPhone2_High.jpg

iPhone 3G:
http://www.eetimes.com/showArticle....W14RIFQE1GHPSKHWATMY32JVN?articleID=209000014

Logic board top: http://i.cmpnet.com/techonline/uth/pmiPhone_boardtopBIG.jpg
Logic board bottom: http://i.cmpnet.com/techonline/uth/pmiPhone_boardbottomBIG.jpg

More pictures in the iFixit teardowns:
2G: http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhone-1st-Generation-Teardown/599/1
3G: http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhone-3G-Teardown/600/1

Do you still want to claim that iPhone 2G and 3G would have identical hardware?

So what is the absurdity of my demand?
It is that you demand support for a new OS revision (for free!) for an outdated device that works fine as it is (and btw. still runs the same OS as the most-recent successor two generations later) by argueing with unsubstantial claims about identical hardware for two obviously different devices.

Instead you think the comparison ("WTF my Apple IIe wont run OS X?") is a good one? :rolleyes: Are you kidding?(Apple IIe is a 8bit computer)

Using exaggaration is a common (satirical) way for pointing out certain issues. If you're german, you may look it up on wikipeda: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Überzeichnung_(Kunst) , alternatively english Wikipedia also explains "satire": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satire

If you bother to reply again please try to actually refer to my arguments - otherwise save your time! Thank you!
 
Apple aren't going to continue support for older devices, unless sales suffer because of it or their image is tarnished in the press by criticism of this choice.

IMO, it's a worrying sign. While it might be a "phone", it's far more a hand-held computer; and 3 years is a very, very short time to support any computer. "Planned obsolescence" seems to be an integral part of Apple's strategy these days?

I totally agree with you.

When Apple discontinued PowerPC support in Mac OS X, I was a staunch critic yet lambasted here for criticizing the 3 year support window for $5000 PowerMac G5s.
In fact, even the moderators here threatened to ban me if I didn't let up on Apple & the Fanboys who attacked me in droves.

But it appears the 3 year support window is Apple's new policy for ALL DEVICES now and I think ultimately this will not sit well with customers.

So be careful what you wish for Fanboys. You didn't care about PowerPC, but the IPhone and soon the iPad will hit home for even the Fanboys (unless you're independently wealthy and can replace all your computers, phones, devices within every 3 years).

I urge everyone who rated this story negative to hit Apple Discussions Support Forum and criticize Apple. That's what got original iPhone buyers that $100 credit.
It certainly wasn't out of the kindness in Steve Jobs' heart, that's for damn sure.
 
Lacking counter-arguments so you have to be impolite? Or why did you completely fail to comment on my arguments?


Really the same hardware? Can you back up that claim with proof? As i already wrote in my first reply, they may _appear_ to be the same, but don't necessarily _need_ to be, only because some _parts_ seem to be the same. And unless you are working in Apples R&D department or in the factory actually producing the iPhones i deny your competence for judgement in that area!

If you don't believe me, take a look at the respective teardowns for both devices:

iPhone 2G:
http://www.eetimes.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=200001811

Logic board #1: http://i.cmpnet.com/techonline/uth/iPhone1_High.jpg
Logic board #2: http://i.cmpnet.com/techonline/uth/iPhone2_High.jpg

iPhone 3G:
http://www.eetimes.com/showArticle....W14RIFQE1GHPSKHWATMY32JVN?articleID=209000014

Logic board top: http://i.cmpnet.com/techonline/uth/pmiPhone_boardtopBIG.jpg
Logic board bottom: http://i.cmpnet.com/techonline/uth/pmiPhone_boardbottomBIG.jpg

More pictures in the iFixit teardowns:
2G: http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhone-1st-Generation-Teardown/599/1
3G: http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhone-3G-Teardown/600/1

Do you still want to claim that iPhone 2G and 3G would have identical hardware?


It is that you demand support for a new OS revision (for free!) for an outdated device that works fine as it is (and btw. still runs the same OS as the most-recent successor two generations later) by argueing with unsubstantial claims about identical hardware for two obviously different devices.



Using exaggaration is a common (satirical) way for pointing out certain issues. If you're german, you may look it up on wikipeda: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Überzeichnung_(Kunst) , alternatively english Wikipedia also explains "satire": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satire

If you bother to reply again please try to actually refer to my arguments - otherwise save your time! Thank you!

So the teardowns look different. What have you proved again?

It's already been stated the processing power of the devices are the same.

There is not a technical reason for discontinuing support within 3 years.

The only thing you proved is that you don't like German and that the designs are different.
The horsepower is still the same.

Typical fanboy response... because the tear-down looks different, it MUST BE MAGICALLY TECHNICALLY DIFFERENT AND NEW AND GREATER! HAHA!

Too funny. I'm drowning in cool-aid here, somebody rescue me please.
 
It's not personal its buisness. For example if you take your 3 year old Ford to the dealership and ask them to upgrade your car to the microsoft SYNC system.

They are not going to. Apple has been pretty generous in providing upgrades for the original iphone to this point. Considering that other companies would have stopped a long time ago (i.e android).

So put on your big kid pants and muck it up
 
That argument might work for Palm, but Apple is flush with extra cash. Especially in this case:

Because of SOX, Apple appears to set aside ~$20 per phone for software upgrades. With 50 million sold, that's a billion dollars for upgrades. Even at a tenth of that, there's plenty of money if they wished to support older models.

For that matter, they could charge for upgrades. There's a huge market for iPhone software. Apple tells us that every day. Let them use their own store.
Well - if you think it's a viable market why not apply to Apple and make a deal? Apple seems to think it's not worth it from either a technical or economical point of view, so you might become rich and famous by taking this niche.

Agreed. And now that people know that Apple has a limit on support, everyone can give better advice on what to buy.
Yeah, right! Which company offers a new OS version (or even support like bugfixing) for three year old devices? For the current Windows Mobile 6.5 you need a device running at least 6.1 - if you only have a device running Win Mobile 6.0 or even 5.0 you're left out cold in the rain! (http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/meet/wm65-upgrade.mspx)

And Win Mobile 6 has been introduced in Feb. 2007 (_after_ the launch of the original iPhone).

The Apple II analogy was really bad. iPhone models are very similar to each other.

As you admit there _are_ differences - and all of us here (except maybe people from Apple iPhone R&D reading along) are not competent enough to judge and evaluate the implications of these differences onto the upcoming iPhone OS 4. Thus the Apple ][e analogy was a suitable satirical means of pointing out the fundamental misperception of the actual situation.

And other phones have been multitasking for years on slower cpus with less RAM.
1.) Multitasking is not the only new feature in OS4.
2.) OS4 might contain optimizations that require certain technical aspects to be in place.
3.) Usability and functionality of these "multitasking other phones with slower CPUs and less RAM" is light years away from the approach of even iPhone OS 1 (this is why the iPhone was such a massive hit!) - thus this comparison is invalid in my opinion.
 
That's the name of the game. It would be like Apple still making floppy drives for their computers.

Time to move on.
 
It's not personal its buisness. For example if you take your 3 year old Ford to the dealership and ask them to upgrade your car to the microsoft SYNC system.

They are not going to. Apple has been pretty generous in providing upgrades for the original iphone to this point. Considering that other companies would have stopped a long time ago (i.e android).

So put on your big kid pants and muck it up

Comparing cars to phones to computers is like comparing apples to oranges...

irrelevant comparison.

But if you insist on an irrelevant comparison, Ford doesn't have the money to support its cars like that since they are borderline flat broke and barely staying afloat. Apple is a filthy rich company with BILLIONS of dollars in the bank, yet walks away from its loyal customers who paid a huge sum for the original iPhone?
Gee, your irrelevant comparison hasn't turned out so well for you after all.

3 years is a short window for a computer in my opinion and apparently a lot of people here.

And the iPhone is basically a computer. Well, at least it cost as much as a cheap PC for 1st generation iPhone buyers! So why wouldn't you expect those customers to be upset when there apparently is no technical reason for the 1st generation iPhone to get OS 4.0?
 
So the teardowns look different. What have you proved again?
For example that the claim of iPhone 2G and 3G sharing the same hardware is untrue!

It's already been stated the processing power of the devices are the same.
There is more to OS programming than sheer processing power. And even then a processor does not exist in vacuum but is connected to a wide variety of accompanying hardware - you need to bring the power onto the road, so to speak.

There is not a technical reason for discontinuing support within 3 years.
As with German i deny you the competence to really judge that!

The only thing you proved is that you don't like German
That's nonsense! I just counter-argued his claims!

and that the designs are different. The horsepower is still the same.
*Sigh* And a Pentium 4 is faster than a Core i7 because it's running at higher clockspeed. (Attention: Irony!).

Typical fanboy response... because the tear-down looks different, it MUST BE MAGICALLY TECHNICALLY DIFFERENT AND NEW AND GREATER! HAHA!
Fanboy response is usually marked by hysterical laughter, attempts to discredit discussion partners and the unability to actually react to any facts that don't fit one's own view of the world. I do see these hints in your posting, not in mine. Go figure...

Too funny. I'm drowning in cool-aid here, somebody rescue me please.
If you would have bothered to actually read _and_ understand what i wrote you might have understood what i was pointing out (and maybe could have answered and prove me wrong). Shouting out loud and insulting people is a poor attempt to hide that one has no own argument and can not discuss in a factual way.
 
For example that the claim of iPhone 2G and 3G sharing the same hardware is untrue!


There is more to OS programming than sheer processing power. And even then a processor does not exist in vacuum but is connected to a wide variety of accompanying hardware - you need to bring the power onto the road, so to speak.


As with German i deny you the competence to really judge that!


That's nonsense! I just counter-argued his claims!


*Sigh* And a Pentium 4 is faster than a Core i7 because it's running at higher clockspeed. (Attention: Irony!).


If you would have bothered to actually read _and_ understand what i wrote you might have understood what i was pointing out (and maybe could have answered and prove me wrong). Shouting out loud and insulting people is a poor attempt to hide that one has no own argument and can not discuss in a factual way.


Fanboy response is usually marked by hysterical laughter, attempts to discredit discussion partners and the unability to actually react to any facts that don't fit one's own view of the world. I do see these hints in your posting, not in mine. Go figure...

If you read my posts, you'll see that I never stated that the iPhones shared identical hardware. Other people did.

I simply stated that the hardware is so similar that there is not a huge technical limitation to the 1st generation iPhone running OS 4.0 and everything that everyone has posted about the specs on the 2 phones seems to support that, even your posts!

My major point is the 3 year window of support by Apple, which now appears to apply to all Apple products. And I think that is LAME!
 
That's the name of the game. It would be like Apple still making floppy drives for their computers.

Time to move on.

Comparing cars to computers to iPhones...

Now comparing floppy drives to iPhones...

ANOTHER IRRELEVANT FANBOY COMPARISON! LOL

I'm drowning in Kool-Aid here, will somebody please save me?

If not for these comments being hysterically funny, I'd probably recommend that some of these people be hospitalized for "lack of a spine" or seek therapy ASAP!

Also, I believe there is a secret clinic partially funded by Microsoft that has found a cure for the Steve Jobs Reality Distortion Field Effect disorder. :D
 
Comparing cars to phones to computers is like comparing apples to oranges...

irrelevant comparison.

But if you insist on an irrelevant comparison, Ford doesn't have the money to support its cars like that since they are borderline flat broke and barely staying afloat. Apple is a filthy rich company with BILLIONS of dollars in the bank, yet walks away from its loyal customers who paid a huge sum for the original iPhone?
Gee, your irrelevant comparison hasn't turned out so well for you after all.

3 years is a short window for a computer in my opinion and apparently a lot of people here.

And the iPhone is basically a computer. Well, at least it cost as much as a cheap PC for 1st generation iPhone buyers! So why wouldn't you expect those customers to be upset when there apparently is no technical reason for the 1st generation iPhone to get OS 4.0?

Actually ford is not broke. They were the only american car maker that didn't take anymoney from the goverment while the other auto makers did.

But obviously you have your mind made up to be anti apple. Because im sure even if the multitasking and the other features were extended to the original iphone.

You would find something else to rake apple over the coals about. Call me a fanboy or not. I really don't care. You don't know me, you don't pay my bills and you don't wipe my ass. If you don't like what apple is doing too bad. Because no matter how much you complain they are not going to support the iphone @2G.

And when they stop supporting the 3GS then i guess i will just have to upgrade. Because a company isnt going to support a product forever and show me another company that releases updates for its smartphones ad infinitum?
 
Well HyperZboy, this is actually great news for Apple - if the users accept it. It means Apple only have to support one or two models.

But it's nothing but bad news for users. Sure, some don't care ("I have the latest iPhone, to hell with everyone else!"), but this move offers no benefits to users of recent iPhones and is a pain in the ass to older iPhone owners.

22 months ago (less than 2 years!!), the original iPhone was the best you could buy here. Now, Apple aren't supporting it at all.
9 months ago, the iPhone 3G was the best you could buy here, and now that's only partially supported in the next OS.

That's a ridiculous rate of obsolescence.
 
Lacking counter-arguments so you have to be impolite? Or why did you completely fail to comment on my arguments?
No. But it seems that you have no arguments. Obviously you are a real Fanboy!?

Really the same hardware? Can you back up that claim with proof? As i already wrote in my first reply, they may _appear_ to be the same, but don't necessarily _need_ to be, only because some _parts_ seem to be the same.
Same SoC. 128 MB Ram.
This is important!

If you don't believe me, take a look at the respective teardowns for both devices:
Why?
Do you think another Logic-Board would change something? It is no big deal.
Important is the CPU, Chipset, GPU (=SoC) and Ram and not the Layout!
Although if they would use another WLAN Chipset and so on it shouldn't be a big deal (just another driver (kext) - which you have in iPhone OS 3.x).

Do you still want to claim that iPhone 2G and 3G would have identical hardware?
Yes. Sure. They all have basically the same hardware.

It is that you demand support for a new OS revision (for free!) for an outdated device that works fine as it is (and btw. still runs the same OS as the most-recent successor two generations later) by argueing with unsubstantial claims about identical hardware for two obviously different devices.
No - the devices are not outdated. Take the iPod Touch (1st gerneration) for example. Same hardware.
If the hardware would be outdated, there would be no support for iPhone 3G!

It would be nice if a device is outdated for technical reason and not at random! That would be a real bonus for apple and another reason to buy an iPhone.

Btw.
I didn't say that Apple should offer an Update for free!
Apple could take some money for the update.

9 months ago, the iPhone 3G was the best you could buy here, and now that's only partially supported in the next OS.
That is OK, because it has just 128 MB RAM (and also a slower CPU).
Important is, that you have the iPhone OS4.
 
I think the problem is that once the majority of the iphone users go to OS 4.0, most support for 3rd party apps. for OS 3.0 will be dropped and new apps. may be designed for OS 4.0 only, and all the available apps. are what makes the iphone a really great phone.
 
You're forgetting about drivers, and not only performance, but the compatibility of the drivers (and the matching embedded controller software) with each OS.

The sound driver is a really obvious difference between the 1st gen and the 3G. It greatly affects total performance at some settings.

OK, so it has a different sound driver... Does that make it unable to run on 4.0? No. It's nothing about the hardware.

The thing is, when Apple currently releases a firmware update, they have to compile, package, and distribute it for 6 different devices (m68ap/iPhone1,1, n45ap/iPod1,1, n82ap/iPhone1,2, n72ap/iPod2,1, n88ap/iPhone2,1, and n18ap/iPod3,1).

Once they introduce iPod4,1 and iPhone3,1 this summer, that number will have to rise to 8 different devices... Doing this for 8 different devices is too much, and it seems they're just setting the cap at 6 (7+ once the iPad, aka k48ap/iPad1,1, and the iPhone are running the same OS builds). I predict next year, Apple will drop support for 2nd gen iPhones and iPods (iPhone 3G and iPod 2G, aka n82ap/iPhone1,2 and n72ap/iPod2,1), and will continue to only support devices with software updates for 3 years in the future.

So yeah, my point is that it has nothing to do with the hardware compatibility, just that Apple doesn't want to maintain so many packages on their iTunes version server.
 
I predict next year, Apple will drop support for 2nd gen iPhones and iPods (iPhone 3G and iPod 2G, aka n82ap/iPhone1,2 and n72ap/iPod2,1), and will continue to only support devices with software updates for 3 years in the future.
But they are still selling the 2nd gen iPhone ;)
 
OK, so it has a different sound driver... Does that make it unable to run on 4.0?

Yes. If 4.0 only has sound drivers only compatible with the newer hardware.

So yeah, my point is that it has nothing to do with the hardware compatibility, just that Apple doesn't want to maintain so many packages on their iTunes version server.

Not just maintain... but develop, if they don't have (4.0 compatible) new drivers for all that old hardware (all the code that interfaces between the OS and those other embedded ARM CPUs and sound chips), and QA, and then maintain, etc. And it might not be just the sound driver. Perhaps the Edge driver, or wifi driver, etc. are also too slow, because they're talking to older slower embedded ARM CPU firmware which can't be upgraded because there's not enough hidden firmware memory or something. (There are at least 3 ARM processors in every iPhone.)

And just the sound driver for the old audio subsystem alone, might make backgrounding audio with more than it does already (just barely), work too poorly to pass QA.

In addition to all the accounting reasons...
 
But it's nothing but bad news for users. Sure, some don't care ("I have the latest iPhone, to hell with everyone else!"), but this move offers no benefits to users of recent iPhones and is a pain in the ass to older iPhone owners.

22 months ago (less than 2 years!!), the original iPhone was the best you could buy here. Now, Apple aren't supporting it at all.
9 months ago, the iPhone 3G was the best you could buy here, and now that's only partially supported in the next OS.

That's a ridiculous rate of obsolescence.

I think people should just get used to it. Apple will probably soon stop supporting OS upgrades for machines older than 2 years soon also. Don't expect ANY technical reasons (like the PPC thing) in the future as there won't be any. Apple will simply want you to buy a new computer and they will do it by refusing to support your "old" (if you call 2 years old) computer. CPUs aren't making the headway they used to and you only need so much power to run a Word Processor (and we all know Macs aren't for gaming, which is evident by their total lack of GPU power so don't even go there) so it's pretty much just Apple wanting you to give them more money. I always figured they built their computers into the backs of monitors so the monitor would probably die first and you'd be inclined to buy a whole new computer instead of paying for a new bulb (which are obscenely high priced for things like my Panasonic HD projector that runs my 93" screen; try $280-399 a bulb; that was bad enough when it was $2000 for the projector. The current equivalent model goes for under $900). The rated life of a home projector bulb is ~2-2.5 years (mine is at 3 years and the projector already TOLD me to buy a new bulb; I reset it like I put a new one in and the old one is still working fine. Now how's THAT for BS?)

In any case, my 1st generation iPod Touch runs anything I need it to run. I don't play much in the way of games on it, so I don't care if a 3D racer doesn't run or not, but multi-tasking for a few things might be nice. Forget about it. No support for it. I only bought the thing a little over 2 years ago.... it's not a 3D game machine (oh wait; even those usually get supported by the industry for 3-4 years minimum, sometimes longer if they were really popular like the Playstation 2). But Steve says I need a NEW one. They'd probably refuse to put a new battery in it at some point (not that paying $100 for a battery is a good deal on something that only costs $299 for the newest version anyway, which they are COUNTING ON). But it primarily serves as a WiFi remote for my whole house audio/video system and is usually plugged in upstairs next to my listening chair for my HiFi system. I don't need a new one to do that, but if they make a version of iTunes that is incompatible with it and "Remote" then I would be screwed.

People can argue all they want that Apple shouldn't have to support a "Phone" for more than a couple of years, but it's not just a phone. It's now an entire PLATFORM (iPod Touch and iPad as well). If Apple had real technical reasons it would be one thing, but the truth is dropping support for older models has to do with only two things, MONEY and Steve Jobs' CONTROL FREAK nature (i.e. I don't want any "old" iPHones out there so force them out of use!) I'm sure the fanboys are 100% behind him, though.

This is fine for a $200 subsidized phone, but it makes me a little uncomfortable about spending $500-800 on an iPad that will seem to have a similar lifespan. At least with my 3.5 year old MacBook pro I can still run the latest and greatest os with no problems. It shows no signs of lagginess or age so I expect to be able to use it for another couple years. When you have to amortize $800 over just 2-3 years of practical use, it's not a great value proposition.

My "9" year old PowerMac (upgraded to 1.8GHz 7448 G4) shows no signs of "lagginess" or "age" either running Leopard and 90% of Mac applications (I wouldn't really run Handbrake or Final Cut Pro on it and it cannot handle HD material without some frame drops, but serves it just fine to my home theater room downstairs), but I guess I should be lucky I can use it all. With the new obsolescence scheme Steve has cooked up, it wouldn't have been usable past Panther. In FACT, my PowerMac is 300% faster (CPU wise) and 200% faster (GPU wise) than my Dell Mini 10V running Snow Leopard. I realize the Dell is a netbook and it wasn't meant to run Snow Leopard, but it feels "fine" too for the most part (running firefox, playing scrabble on Pogo.com and skype at the same time, etc.) My point is that "usable" should define obsolete (i.e. technically no longer useful) not some arbitrary scheme designed only to force you to spend more money.
 
Actually ford is not broke. They were the only american car maker that didn't take anymoney from the goverment while the other auto makers did.

But obviously you have your mind made up to be anti apple. Because im sure even if the multitasking and the other features were extended to the original iphone.

You would find something else to rake apple over the coals about. Call me a fanboy or not. I really don't care. You don't know me, you don't pay my bills and you don't wipe my ass. If you don't like what apple is doing too bad. Because no matter how much you complain they are not going to support the iphone @2G.

And when they stop supporting the 3GS then i guess i will just have to upgrade. Because a company isnt going to support a product forever and show me another company that releases updates for its smartphones ad infinitum?

Ford was broke and was considering taking the government money.
But, they were able to make deals with their creditors that the other 2 US car manufacturers couldn't because the were in slightly better financial shape.
Apple on the other hand has billions in cash reserves and could probably bail out all 3 car companies on their OWN! LOL

But I don't know why I'm responding anyway since cars to computers comparisons are senseless.

There is no technical limitation to not support the 1st Generation iPhone with OS 4.0.

And 3 years is a short window of support for a $600 device in my opinion.

Those are my 2 major complaints and I think they're quite valid.

Obviously the fanboys disagree with me.
That's fine. That's how I know I'm still sane! LOL
 
Haha...so many arguments here and Apple nor Jobs will change anything... do you hate the idea of not having OS4 on your iphone?...sell it or trash it...or buy a new one. :confused:

moaning moaning moaning...

I have a G3 which uses OS 9, a G4 with OSX 10.4 a pair of imacs with OSX 10.6 and everyone of them works flawlessly...my god...my Powermac G3 which by the way costed $2400 usd cant use OSX 10.6! damn apple, damn Jobs...they are cutting my desire of having the ultimate operative system, buuu buuu, they should go and burn in hell.

Come on...stop crying.
 
And 3 years is a short window of support for a $600 device in my opinion.

Those are my 2 major complaints and I think they're quite valid.

LOL

Okay and that's your opinion. But newsflash though! Apple doesn't care about your opinion. So there. No matter how much you want the support your not going to get it. So E-mail Steve about that

Most people don't keep cell phones for 3 years anyways.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the 3GS will NOT support all the features of OS 4, like multi-tasking. Right? That's what Steve said in the keynote.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the 3GS will NOT support all the features of OS 4, like multi-tasking. Right? That's what Steve said in the keynote.

It will support multitasking. But there are probably features that the iPhone "HD" supports but the iPhone2,1 won't. Much like how the iPhone 2,1 supports voice control and the iPhone1,2 doesn't.
 
I´m using the iPhone 3G, it will still get the iPhone OS 4 update but unfortunately not all the functions (No Multitasking). But hey, i´ll still love the iPhone, it´s a great device which has served me well.

And who knows? Maybe there will be a hack which enables those features on older devices. :)
 
Thanks! Well that's good news that the 3GS will support it, but I'll still probably upgrade.
 
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