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Steve Jobs Confirms Lack of Future Support for Original iPhone
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Wow, that was an ivory tower arrogant meaningless statement that's factually incorrect if ever I heard one. Spoken like a true Fanboy! LOL
#1: The iPhone is not just a cell phone! LOL
Just like Macs are not just PCs, people keep them far longer and historically always have vs. PCs and iPhones vs. generic cell phones!
#2: Apple cares about public opinion. They cared enough to give back a $100 credit to original iPhone buyers when they all stormed the castle at Apple Discussions and crippled the site in protest. Apple even had to remove lots of comments to save face before announcing the $100 credit. The $100 credit was not the original plan, so your voice does count.
#3: Since there is no technical limitation to giving original iPhone buyers OS 4.0 (outside of a few features here and there), it would be easy for Apple to change policy on this without a major delay despite what Steve Jobs said.
Its a cycle thats emerged that has people riled and fair play to them. I can almost predict that come next year these forums will be flooded with the same near word for word posts, only with 3G Obcelesence in the titles
Eventually everyone here who is patting Steve Jobs's back (or his ass in most cases) who can see no wrong in this man...Oh Yes He Is Your Massiah!! will be back here blighting on about how the 3Gs or 4G In their pockets is being dropped
Its the nature of the beast.
Or maybe its true that for some Money Just Isnt An Issue. Which is blatantly what the ceo's at apple are relying on, with a no matter what we throw at them...They will buy/upgrade attitude. Since they know from the feedback that they make the "coolest" devices on the planet...Right??
The sooner people stop defending decisions to cut off "ALL" support for devices that folk have paid well over the odds for at launch and also a device which has also had folk happily spent their hard earned on the pleasures of itunes and all the nuggets they have to offer .
(Surely the itunes revenue from the 2g crowd alone warrant apple to offer some support? However minor...Is it not in their best interest??)
like i mentioned to support these decisions from Jobs & co, is to tell them that it is ok and is completly acceptable to do it with your next device and the one after that. And i believe the cycle lifespan will only get shorter and shorter if we all keep tellin them its OK.
So all you 2g owners i say Kick Up as much a fuss as you like and if the 3g crowd pitch in next year...The more noise that is made....The more they (Apple) will not be able to justify such support lifespans for ££££££ devices
If the device is not dead how can you defend a decision to kill it off?? Even if it is nearing the grand old age of 3.
Eventually everyone here who is patting Steve Jobs's back (or his ass in most cases) who can see no wrong in this man...Oh Yes He Is Your Massiah!! will be back here blighting on about how the 3Gs or 4G In their pockets is being dropped
Its the nature of the beast.
Or maybe its true that for some Money Just Isnt An Issue. Which is blatantly what the ceo's at apple are relying on, with a no matter what we throw at them...They will buy/upgrade attitude. Since they know from the feedback that they make the "coolest" devices on the planet...Right??
The sooner people stop defending decisions to cut off "ALL" support for devices that folk have paid well over the odds for at launch and also a device which has also had folk happily spent their hard earned on the pleasures of itunes and all the nuggets they have to offer .
(Surely the itunes revenue from the 2g crowd alone warrant apple to offer some support? However minor...Is it not in their best interest??)
like i mentioned to support these decisions from Jobs & co, is to tell them that it is ok and is completly acceptable to do it with your next device and the one after that. And i believe the cycle lifespan will only get shorter and shorter if we all keep tellin them its OK.
So all you 2g owners i say Kick Up as much a fuss as you like and if the 3g crowd pitch in next year...The more noise that is made....The more they (Apple) will not be able to justify such support lifespans for ££££££ devices
If the device is not dead how can you defend a decision to kill it off?? Even if it is nearing the grand old age of 3.
Wait, the 128k ran much of anything? Well it did run MS Flight Sim (with a lot of stuff disabled).
(No, I'm not bitter that my dad gets that, it was my first computer, and within 6 months no one made a thing that worked for it. Every software I had that worked on it was what we got when we first got the computer. After that everytime I saw specs you had to have the 512k *mutter*).
The updates weren't free. iPhone buyers paid for them, just as iPod touch owners did.
Apple officially claimed part of the profit per sale over 24 months, so they can include updates under SOX rules.
Most updates were simply to bring the device up to par with other phones that come with video recording, MMS, merged mail, and many other other common features. That's why it needed more updates than other, more mature, devices. (Palm and Android have the same need for updates.)
Wait, what? We did? *scratches head*. I have an iPhone 3G. I don't remember paying for one update including the one that was a few weeks back.
I'm quite confused. When did us iPhone buyers pay for an update?
Oh, and I'd like to say that I can easily understand why a company would want to eventually draw the line and say we are no longer supporting that platform.
1. Time = money. Paying people to program = money + time. The more devices you have to support the more money and time you have to throw into making sure they all work properly.
2. The more devices you have to support the more chances one of them is going to be buggy with something. More chances to spend time and money. Yay
3. You will be limited by the capabilities of your least capable device you want to support. If you want to be able to go further ahead and use the potential of current devices, well, old devices are going to hamper that since their potential is less. So if you want to use more potential of new devices, you can't let yourself get too limited by capabilities of old devices.
4. Yes, you do want to encourage people to upgrade. They're not a charity. They're here to make money. It's called business. It's called they exist to make money. Be realistic here. They're not your friends, they're not a charity, they're not here to make you happy, they're here to get your money. If they are making you happy, it's only cause it is good business sense for them to do so and ultimately will make them more money. In the end, this is what it boils down to, what will get them more money (and if they are really good/smart, they'll make decisions that may in the short run not be so good for them, but in the long run work out for them. So they can look like they are being "kind" but in reality they are just building more loyalty and more chances you will come back to them and spend more money than the little bit they look to be conceding to you at the moment).
As I said, we paid for updates when we paid monthly fees that were kicked back to Apple. Apple stated that they factored in the cost of updates into those.
That's why they acknowledged that income over time. They recently changed this, however.
That's probarly because it was the first gen. But have you seen apple give credits because the 2G and 3g doesn't have access to the video camera? Or given anymore credits?
Simply put the iphone 2G has simply reached its mortality as far as apple is concerned and no matter of huffing and puffing is going to change that.
I haven't seen any type of protesting online or any campaign to show an outcry from users and the 20 or so on macusers who are up in arms about this don't count because that's a small margin.
And with your frame of thinking then i should be able to force sony to give me a 3D tv because my currently sony bravia doesn't support 3D.
Technology is always going to evolve and as far as the IP i really don't think that people were going to expect them to support the thing for the next 4-9 years. If someone did then they must have been dropped on their head alot as a child.
Because no one supports HW that far out. What's next? People crying because apple won't fix their original IP which is way outside of support
First generation iPhone user here. The lack of 4.0 support for us first geners is certainly disappointing, however I wasn't surprised while watching the keynote when Steve Jobs broke the news.
That being said, I don't think Apple has much to lose by allowing first generation iPhones to run 4.0, and I think they should provide support for it. I'd consider myself to be a pretty typical Apple fan, and I wouldn't trade my iPhone for any phone on the market. I expect to one day upgrade to a new iPhone, however when I do so it will be because of hardware, not software; I feel no more compelled to upgrade now than I did before 4.0's introduction despite my desire to have some of the new features.
I'm sure there are many who feel as I do. Those who are planning on upgrading this summer will do so, and for them iPhone OS 4 is likely just another new feature. Those who aren't planning on upgrading, like myself, won't in spite of being left behind technically, meaning another issue is preventing them from doing so (finances, lack of features, etc.). iPhone OS 4 probably isn't a deal maker.
Continuing support for all generations would ensure all Apple mobile products remain on the same level technically, which likely would be to Apple's benefit from a support stand point. It reaffirms corporate support for all of Apple's customers, who like me swear by their products. And perhaps most pertinent to Apple, it would not significantly detract its customers from upgrading.
That being said, I don't think Apple has much to lose by allowing first generation iPhones to run 4.0, and I think they should provide support for it. I'd consider myself to be a pretty typical Apple fan, and I wouldn't trade my iPhone for any phone on the market. I expect to one day upgrade to a new iPhone, however when I do so it will be because of hardware, not software; I feel no more compelled to upgrade now than I did before 4.0's introduction despite my desire to have some of the new features.
I'm sure there are many who feel as I do. Those who are planning on upgrading this summer will do so, and for them iPhone OS 4 is likely just another new feature. Those who aren't planning on upgrading, like myself, won't in spite of being left behind technically, meaning another issue is preventing them from doing so (finances, lack of features, etc.). iPhone OS 4 probably isn't a deal maker.
Continuing support for all generations would ensure all Apple mobile products remain on the same level technically, which likely would be to Apple's benefit from a support stand point. It reaffirms corporate support for all of Apple's customers, who like me swear by their products. And perhaps most pertinent to Apple, it would not significantly detract its customers from upgrading.
Since he said sorry, that makes everything better...some of us couldn't afford a 3g or 3gs. A couple months after the price drops and you all complain again, then I will buy my new iphone.
Outdated or not, they should still at least give home screen pictures or something
Well I don't think first gen will be able to handle those new features... without killing performance and battery.
I mean, it's been three years already. It's about the right time to upgrade
I mean, it's been three years already. It's about the right time to upgrade
Amazingly great new paperweight!
Thanks Apple! Can't wait to use my 1G for securing all the stacks of paper on my desk! Don't get me wrong; I've been patiently holding out for the 4G, but really; not even a a watered-down enhancement for the 1G? Not looking for anything too amazing here, the hardware isn't exactly capable of it, but some improvements to the UI and overall user experience wouldn't be so bad. How about a new iPod app? And don't tell me you couldn't throw some lame, limited voice control on that baby. I guess this is no surprise coming from Apple, just had some hopes to at least be able to use my 1G as my own mini-ipad with a few cool new features to keep me interested after grabbing up the 4G, but alas; it is not meant to be. Oh well, onward and upward!
Thanks Apple! Can't wait to use my 1G for securing all the stacks of paper on my desk! Don't get me wrong; I've been patiently holding out for the 4G, but really; not even a a watered-down enhancement for the 1G? Not looking for anything too amazing here, the hardware isn't exactly capable of it, but some improvements to the UI and overall user experience wouldn't be so bad. How about a new iPod app? And don't tell me you couldn't throw some lame, limited voice control on that baby. I guess this is no surprise coming from Apple, just had some hopes to at least be able to use my 1G as my own mini-ipad with a few cool new features to keep me interested after grabbing up the 4G, but alas; it is not meant to be. Oh well, onward and upward!
Well the one good thing about paperweights is that some of us have more ideas for them than that if we could get them really cheap. I wouldn't mind hacking an iPhone to run off my pre-pay SIM or if that won't work I could at least use it as another Wi-Fi remote for my whole house audio/video system. It doesn't really matter how old it gets for that function. Frankly, I wish they would add an IR port on newer models so it could easily handle all remote devices.
Its a cycle thats emerged that has people riled and fair play to them. I can almost predict that come next year these forums will be flooded with the same near word for word posts, only with 3G Obcelesence in the titles
Eventually everyone here who is patting Steve Jobs's back (or his ass in most cases) who can see no wrong in this man...Oh Yes He Is Your Massiah!! will be back here blighting on about how the 3Gs or 4G In their pockets is being dropped
Its the nature of the beast.
Not this person. I fully expect seeing them drop the first one that mine is next next year.
But I'm not going to be bitching cause I'll probably have this year's iphone. And if I don't, it's just an excuse to go ahead and upgrade already. And even so, I'm happy with how my iphone works now anyways (anything extra is gravy. It's not like I'm getting multitasking in this upgrade with my iphone which really is the *big* reason to be excited about 4.0. So in a way, mine already is started to not being supported).
I've gotten my use out of my iphone. I feel it has made itself worth the money I paid. And if it goes obsolete, well, it's technology, that happens. Eventually they have to stop supporting old technology if they want to be able to do new and better stuff.
And just cause your gadget can't be updated on the newest system doesn't mean it's useless. The vet I work at still runs old imacs running Mac OS 8.6 (won't even upgrade to OS9).
Most people will upgrade but they will whine and cry while they are upgrading though