The competition is inferior, and the iPad doesn't need spin.
And it also doesn't matter what Steve said at this point. He's dead. It's Cook's Apple now, and I have no doubt we will see Cook do many things that defy Steve Job's wisdom.
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Steve Jobs Criticizes 7-Inch Tablets, Says 10-Inches Minimum
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The competition is inferior, and the iPad doesn't need spin.
And it also doesn't matter what Steve said at this point. He's dead. It's Cook's Apple now, and I have no doubt we will see Cook do many things that defy Steve Job's wisdom.
So tell me - If it doesn't matter what Jobs said in the past, then why do you continue to quote Jobs in your signature?
ETA: I do find it funny that you think I was debating Steve Jobs' status as a living being. Clearly you missed the point. Selective reading I suppose.
Nope, he is. But to think Steve never did 180s and that the iPad Mini is a Cook thing is ludicrous. iBooks, iPod Video, the App Store... all things Steve criticized when he didn't have them only to turn around and make them happen, then call them the best things since sliced bread.
Steve was not a perfect man, he lied, he cheated, he spun things to his advantage. That's what made him successful. Knowing what to say and when to say it and knowing when to contradict himself and spin it in a positive light.
You seem levelheaded about Jobs, so I'm going to ask if the book is worth it. I'm looking for a new read and was wondering if it was an interesting read.
Of course it contradicts what Jobs said. Jobs never said anything about markets, budgets or finances. Jobs said a smaller size wouldn't work now we have a smaller sized iPad. There is the typical Apple contradiction.
By taking this a step farther and talking about the real reasons Apple has waited so long to introduce a smaller iPad you are over shooting the point of the person that bumped the thread. I think we all agree that Apple's publicly stated reasons and the real reasons aren't one in the same. Apple had been working on a tablet before they started working on the iPhone so I'm sure there are many sizes and form factors floating around the lad and that the future of the iPad 'family' was planned well before Jobs passed away.
Jobs is dead and Cook is alive.
Jobs didn't think a small iPad made sense, and Cook does.
Doesn't get more simple...you have no idea if Steve Jobs had a change of heart.
As brilliant as Steve was, sometimes he was... drumroll... WRONG.
Sometimes he thought things like the Cube would be a good idea. Sometimes he thought removing features such as Firewire on the 13" MBP was a good idea, only to be persuaded to bring it back.
Some people apparently like to hold a tablet in one hand, and operate it with the other, like this.
Evidently this is difficult to do with the 10" iPad, considering the plethora of accessories attempting to alleviate the problem:
... And then there are plain retarded ones like this, er, BabyBjorn?
Who knows, maybe Steve was so absorbed initially in an "OMG we have a tablet!!!" sort of way that he assumed everyone would happily and ceremoniously devote both hands to holding the device and sit there awestruck forever. Maybe he was convinced that there must be a single sweet spot for this device type. Either way, he might have been -- gasp -- wrong.
Sometimes he thought things like the Cube would be a good idea. Sometimes he thought removing features such as Firewire on the 13" MBP was a good idea, only to be persuaded to bring it back.
Some people apparently like to hold a tablet in one hand, and operate it with the other, like this.
Evidently this is difficult to do with the 10" iPad, considering the plethora of accessories attempting to alleviate the problem:
... And then there are plain retarded ones like this, er, BabyBjorn?
Who knows, maybe Steve was so absorbed initially in an "OMG we have a tablet!!!" sort of way that he assumed everyone would happily and ceremoniously devote both hands to holding the device and sit there awestruck forever. Maybe he was convinced that there must be a single sweet spot for this device type. Either way, he might have been -- gasp -- wrong.
I don't like strawmans. Since nothing in my sig relates to 7" iPads, attempting to draw any paralell is pointless, and therefore not worth pursuing.
He probably said that with an iPhone in his pocket, and the audience went "yes, that makes total sense, elements are way too close to eachother on a 7" screen" and then they took out their own iPhones and tapped out their tech blog entries on 3.5" screens.
Crap. What a horrible day.
First I find out that water is actually wet and now discovering that Steve Jobs wasn't perfect.
What a cruel world.
The kids on the first page of this thread look ultra silly.
First I find out that water is actually wet and now discovering that Steve Jobs wasn't perfect.
What a cruel world.
The kids on the first page of this thread look ultra silly.
Not a strawman. You said "it also doesn't matter what Steve said at this point. He's dead. It's Cook's Apple now, and I have no doubt we will see Cook do many things that defy Steve Job's wisdom."
But you have a Steve quote. So I'm asking - why still have that signature if what Steve says anymore since it's Cook's Apple?
True. Old threads are fun. My favorite is this one from 2001 about the introduction of the first iPod, which they thought was going to be a massive flop but ended up laying the foundation for Apple's path to becoming larger than Exxon.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apples-new-thing-ipod.500/
"iPoop... iCry. I was so hoping for something more."
"Great just what the world needs, another freaking MP3 player. Go Steve! Where's the Newton?!"
"hey - heres an idea Apple - rather than enter the world of gimmicks and toys, why dont you spend a little more time sorting out your pathetically expensive and crap server line up?"
"I still can't believe this! All this hype for something so ridiculous! Who cares about an MP3 player? I want something new! I want them to think differently!
Why oh why would they do this?! It's so wrong! It's so stupid!"
"All that hype for an MP3 player? Break-thru digital device? The Reality Distiortion Field is starting to warp Steve's mind if he thinks for one second that this thing is gonna take off."
"I for one am disappointed and think that apple is making a mistake by trying to get into this market."
"Cube anyone..."
Those same people who bashed it then probably now talk about how it held them in complete awe since day one. "No one had ever seen such a magnificent device. Only Apple...".
Much like how those who were totally against the smaller iPad because Steve Jobs will be rushing out to stand in line at the nearest Apple store as soon as it's announced.
I tell ya. The more things change, huh? If there's one thing I've learned about overly critical tech geek who seem to hate everything, it's that they're flaky as hell. Either that, or they argue about how stupid something is while secretly loving it, because they think being overly critical is somehow a indicative of having the super-smarts.
Much like how those who were totally against the smaller iPad because Steve Jobs will be rushing out to stand in line at the nearest Apple store as soon as it's announced.
I tell ya. The more things change, huh? If there's one thing I've learned about overly critical tech geek who seem to hate everything, it's that they're flaky as hell. Either that, or they argue about how stupid something is while secretly loving it, because they think being overly critical is somehow a indicative of having the super-smarts.
And further - until Apple says "this is how it needs to be done" - it's useless. Even if it was Apple who says it originally should never be done.
It didn't work until Apple did it right! Now everyone else is copying them.
Feel better sticking up for Apple?
Getting rid of FireWire in 2012 is absolutely the right thing to do.
I'm so happy it's finally gone with the Airs and Retina MBPs.
Totally. That way, they ensured that musicians who have invested in $X,XXX and $XX,XXX audio interfaces that use firewire (because USB sucks for more than 2 in, 2 out) will be sticking with their old Macs until they disintegrate from age (the Macs, or the musicians). Happiness is definitely a word I associate with the removal of a port.
So what ? Steve wasn't just criticizing 7 inch tablets, he was saying the iPad was the minimum size. So anything smaller than an iPad fit his rant.
In other words, Steve again was bashing what Apple didn't have, like Books, like Video iPods, like App Stores for their mobile platform. This is Steve. He does this. Then he turns around, spins on a dime, and tells you Apple "nailed it". They "made it Just work!". And now it's good for consumers because Apple sells it, ie, Books, Video iPods and App stores for their mobile platform and now the smaller iPad.
Steve would have stood on that stage were he alive and he would have presented the iPad Mini/Nano/Air whatever with a big smile on his face and told you how this was the only small tablet that worked and mattered. Anyone who thinks otherwise and that we're getting a "Cook" product that is completely against an idea of Steve just doesn't want to face facts.
I really don't know why people put so much stock in the words of a guy that wore the same thing everyday, bit cultist if you ask me
Exactly! He even went as far as putting an important qualification in at the very end of his rant:
5:29PM "The proof of this will be in our competitors pricing, and that's why we think the current crop of seven-inch tablets will be DOA. Sounds like lots of fun ahead."