Because there haven't been good movies with bad trailers or bad movies with good trailers? So a scene was picked, doesn't mean that it represents the whole movie, and even if it does, who is to say that it's the actual specific storyline in that scene that represents a good part of the movie, or the general way the scene was done, or something else about it. And on top of it, plenty of of people might find it good, just as plenty might find it bad--something that has happened with pretty much any movie ever made, and really many things in life outside of movies.
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'Steve Jobs' Debuts in Select Theaters as First Full Scene Debuts Online
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Doesn't seem like there has been that much of it all compared to many other things in life that have been covered in news, books, magazines, online, etc. Most people haven't read that much about Steve Jobs and don't know that much about him. There has been plenty of coverage of Facebook and Zuckerberg over the years, and yet The Social Network did quite well and many have enjoyed it.
It's mystifying to me that people still get in a car and drive somewhere to bring home a movie to watch.
Redbox is at the grocery store. If you're walking by it anyways, why not? Sometimes they have stuff that isn't available on Netflix for instant streaming.
What you are saying is incredibly obvious, just wasn't sure what point you were making. The scene makes me opine that the rest of the movie will have a similar slant, but of course I can't tell until I actually watch it. You're saying a 2 minute preview isn't necessarily indicative of an entire movie, don't think anyone disagrees with that.
Maybe you need to consider that this is not a documentary. The dialogue is not supposed to be verbatim of real conversations. They are obviously meant to convey a representation to serve the story.
It's been said before that the truth resides somewhere in between the extremes of what's been written or conveyed by many who knew him.
I am a big fan of Apple and I appreciate Jobs' vision and his drive to create great products. That said, if the many stories are true, he could be petty, condescending, a bully and possibly abusive in some ways. His pursuit of excellence appears to have extracted a toll on many who worked with him. He was sometimes wrong. It will always be hard to reconcile reports of his warmth in light of the way he denied his daughter. He had his demons. He had his flaws. After all, he was human and not a god. That's ok. There are facets of him that I admire and other parts that I loathe.
Maybe folks could lighten up until they actually see it.
It's been said before that the truth resides somewhere in between the extremes of what's been written or conveyed by many who knew him.
I am a big fan of Apple and I appreciate Jobs' vision and his drive to create great products. That said, if the many stories are true, he could be petty, condescending, a bully and possibly abusive in some ways. His pursuit of excellence appears to have extracted a toll on many who worked with him. He was sometimes wrong. It will always be hard to reconcile reports of his warmth in light of the way he denied his daughter. He had his demons. He had his flaws. After all, he was human and not a god. That's ok. There are facets of him that I admire and other parts that I loathe.
Maybe folks could lighten up until they actually see it.
Seth Rogen's shortness of breath was starting to make me feel short of breath in that clip
I get it, and I was mainly just teasing. But it is true that I haven't owned a DVD player for over 9 years...
I believe that he's referring to a secret plan (according to the movie) to have NeXT fail, so that he could instead sell the OS to Apple for half a billion dollars, and ensure his return to power at Apple.
Of course, that didn't happen until ten years later, so it's another made-up movie moment that collapses the timeline.
Wrong. Steve Jobs never paid for the GUI itself. What he paid for was a general product demonstration only.
Oh how wrong you are. Everything said there is accurate. He's no genius. Success on the backs of others who were geniuses.
Thank you. Also
"Early in 1980 Jobs asked Xerox for a license to use SmallTalk in the Lisa. In an unexpected burst of proprietary pride, Xerox turned him down."
So Jobs poached one of Smalltalk's developers, Tesler.
Source:
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/dealers-of-lightning-michael-a-hiltzik/1100616282
I hate to mislead. So "Licensed" is an incorrect term. "Deal" perhaps? No license for a GUI, more a deal for ideas. As your information and this New Yorker article explained:
Apple was already one of the hottest tech firms in the country. Everyone in the Valley wanted a piece of it. So Jobs proposed a deal: he would allow Xerox to buy a hundred thousand shares of his company for a million dollars—its highly anticipated I.P.O. was just a year away—if PARC would “open its kimono.”
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2011/05/16/creation-myth
And for those new to all of the history, it was the opinion of those at the time that Xerox had no real beef with Apple until Apple started suing others like MS for big $$. That's why Xerox waited 5-years before the lawsuit.
Xerox lost in court.
So is it too speculative to say, Apple and Xerox made a deal, Apple hired xerox engineers, xerox profited off their Apple stock purchase (and an insurance deal), and years later when Apple sued other companies, Xerox seems to have decided to try for more of that pie or were perhaps just displeased. The court didn't agree with xerox's contention.
That is wrong.
"In exchange for an invitation to PARC, he would sell the corporation 100,000 private shares at $10.50 each."
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1 - How do you know that Xerox lost?
2- It's not speculative, it's B.S. There was no deal other than the demo. Apple poached quite a few employees from Xerox after the demo. Xerox divested from Apple by the time Jobs tried and failed to license Small Talk (early 1980).
It could be a good movie if not Seth Rogen. Boring and dull.
I read an article about casting, it describes the story how actors were picked up, but for Seth it just says "he was already singed for this movie". Before anyone else. Someone just can wonder how that happened.
I read an article about casting, it describes the story how actors were picked up, but for Seth it just says "he was already singed for this movie". Before anyone else. Someone just can wonder how that happened.
Rogen is an actor.. depicting wozniak
whether or not "jobs had negotiated with..." is irrelevant..
if you have issue with the scene's adherence to truth , your argument should be more like "wozniak never, in a heated moment, told s.jobs that he stole the UI from xerox".
Generous? Absolutely. Giving and warm? Seems very much so. Kind and affable? That seems to be the impression he leaves people with. And yes he's altruistic.
But humble? Not really. I saw the ego come out in his interviews. It's a pretty healthy one and it still drives what he says and does about things in general and about Jobs in particular. He's not arrogant with it, so it can be easier to miss, but he does have an ego. He refers to his own genius as genius quite frequently and unabashedly. And justifiably so. But watch a series of his interviews and you'll see the ego and him tripping over it a little. He still comes across as likable, nevertheless. A healthy ego isn't exactly a horrid character flaw, after all.
He's a very interesting man in his own right. I'm glad he's still with us and I do hope he now has his time to shine in biographies and movies made while he is still alive to enjoy and remark upon them.
I just saw this movie and it's really really great. And I mean as a film. It lives up to all they hype. Regardless of what you think of him as a person, or the license, or whatever it truly is that good. One of the best films I've seen in a while. It will be oscar worthy. All the performances are fantastic. And the script is masterful.
I would have been happy with any director who could have "transformed" the scene into one that held my attention.
The much-anticipated Steve Jobs film today launches in select theaters across the United States, following its debut at a few film festivals throughout September and October. To coincide with the film's release, on its YouTube channel Universal Pictures has published a handful of new TV spots, inside looks, and the first full clip from the movie. In the scene, Seth Rogen as Steve Wozniak confronts Michael Fassbender's Steve Jobs over the impending launch of the NeXT Computer.
Alongside the scene, Universal shared four new TV spots for the movie that have been promoting its release over the past few weeks, most of them centering around Rolling Stone's four-star review of the film. The company also shared "a look inside" the newly released film, including short interview clips with its cast and crew that focus on writer Aaron Sorkin and director Danny Boyle.
The first impressions of the film at festivals in Telluride and New York have been largely positive, centering on Fassbender's performance and the risky, yet rewarding liberties that Sorkin takes with certain aspects of Jobs' life. Currently, the film sits at a 91 percent fresh rating on Rotten Tomatoes, with 50 fresh reviews to 5 rotten.
Steve Jobs launches today in select theaters in New York and Los Angeles and will see a slow rollout to more select theaters in places like Toronto and Boston on October 16. The actual, wide release is set for closer to the end of the month on October 23.
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