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Too many people have started to worship him like a God.

Don't give the rest of the users a bad name.
 
First of all if the iPhone 5(if that is even the name of it) does look like the leaked photos, Isn't a redesign. What planet do you live on. To stretch the screen of the iPhone 4/4s a half of inch. Change up the internals a bit. Doesn't qualify as a redesigned iPhone. It's an 4 inch iPhone 4/4s with some new guts.
A new physical design, is not a redesign. Got it
 
witch phones do most look alike...

There´s an obvoius similarity between iphone 4s and the iphone 5, you just can´t deny that. As there is between the lumia phones...

It´s not a redesign, it´s a little different, but not a redesign in my eyes. Yes, it is now a unibody, but who can see this? I can´t... I see alot more similaritys than differenses. And the differensen are only color and material. The overall shape and look is identical to the 4/4S no matter what you say.
 

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Upon his death it was revealed that Jobs left a roadmap of products for a five year period. Being a very slender man he liked thin. So we may see the current style like we have now for five more years.

The advantage is that would make it very recognizable & that does matter more to some. I wonder what else he has left for them to build. One things for sure, they won't be at a loss for ideas. I'm sure he left plenty.

I don't think he was done changing the world.
 
I recall hearing last year just after the great Mr Jobs died, that he personally worked on this iPhone that we all are expecting to see last year. I read he had nothin to do with the iPhone 4S. Now if this is true all these leaked parts of the iPhone can't be what is in store for us Sept 12. Jobs would have never allowed apple to just release a larger screen iPhone 4/4s. That's not a redesign. What do u think people. And can anyone recall hearing about this.

Apple's marketing department couldn't even wait until poor Steve was cold in the ground before they started spewing that story out to the media. Steve Jobs was struggling for his freaking life and couldn't even walk by himself towards the end and everyone thinks he was down in the factory filing metal, shaping glass and single-handedly designing every product Apple will introduce for the next 5 years.

Amazing how that story keeps the dream of Steve alive and the money rolling in as if there were no one else involved with Apple product development but him.

Well, if the iPhone 5 is any indication that that is true, it's not doing them any favors as far as I'm concerned.
 
Conceptually, Steve was sure to have high level input in iPhone5, but the design and minutia was sure to be all Ives, Cook, and Forstal.

The leaked design does seem to have the touch of Jobs.
 
No argument from me that that Steve Jobs was a visionary (with considerable credit to his design team also) etc., but even he could not have been able to accurately predict what Apple's competitors have and will be doing for the next 5 years. Apple has to adapt to it's competition, just as Apple's competition adapts to Apple.

Personally I'd be rather worried about Apple's future if it was religiously following one person's roadmap. Apple's hardware and iOS influence third party developed iOS applications and competitor's offerings, which in turn should influence Apple's decisions regarding iOS core functionality and hardware.

Innovation is great, having a strong vision is great, being blind to the market place is not.

You inspired me! I am now having a......Apple Martini! :D
 
I guess you work for apple then. Cause no one can say for sure yet if the new iPhone will be two toned or one solid color all the way around. Rumors are floating all over the net bout the real look of the device. Assumptions make people look like You can fill in the blank.

You're looking at those same rumours and making assumptions it hasn't changed. So you're not only making an assumption yourself, you're making a stupid assumption..

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There´s an obvoius similarity between iphone 4s and the iphone 5, you just can´t deny that. As there is between the lumia phones...

It´s not a redesign, it´s a little different, but not a redesign in my eyes. Yes, it is now a unibody, but who can see this? I can´t... I see alot more similaritys than differenses. And the differensen are only color and material. The overall shape and look is identical to the 4/4S no matter what you say.

So WTF DO you want? A round phone? A pyramid? A spike? A dildo? A t-bone steak? A football?
 
I'm not sure what people want from the new iPhone? Is it that you want the supposed teardrop design that was doing the rounds last year? Or is it that because the iPhone 4 was substantially redesigned from the 3G/3GS, there is an expectation that there will be a similar redesign every 2 years after? Why would Apple throwaway a design that has sold so many and which works well? What's the point in changing the phone for the sake of it (or to please a few fans who prefer style to substance)? The iPhone4 was the change to the surrounding aerial band with the 4S tweaking it to avoid the attenuation. Until new technology allows further worthwhile changes, why change a winning formula.

I wonder whether the problems with the iPhone4 has made Apple a little more cautious, with evolution preferred over revolution.

The expected design to be launched on Wednesday is apparently a significant change from the 4/4S - no, not a complete redesign but a lot different. Wednesday will tell us if there is another feature that we're not aware of.
 
Steve was a salesman and a marketing guy. Sure he'd have to "OK" everything, but ultimately Jony Ive is the the real designing mastermind.
 
Conceptually, Steve was sure to have high level input in iPhone5, but the design and minutia was sure to be all Ives, Cook, and Forstal.

The leaked design does seem to have the touch of Jobs.

Yes, the simple elongated display... instead of a radical change forcing developers to embrace resolution independence... has Jobs' non-techie salesman influence written all over it.

Just as with the pixel doubling, it's an easy way of updating the screen while still keeping legacy app support. Minimal size change also plays to the consumer who is comfortable with what they have now. Ditto for lack of major iOS modifications.

In other words, Apple is getting trapped with legacy tech and market issues just as others had been. Not having those problems was a major factor that allowed Apple to leap ahead in 2007. Now they seem headed down the same path that Windows Mobile, RIM OS and Symbian took. They're afraid of messing too much with a known success.
 
And maybe even the iPhone 5S next year also has Steve Jobs hands on it. But after that, I doubt it, I would think the iPhone 6 due in 2014 will be the first iPhone mostly done without Jobs involvement, and we see how that goes ? Could be a much better product compared to the competition, or it will have lost something, and start to go down in sales...time will tell

I think it would still sell. For some reason people will buy stuff made by apple if it were 10 year old technology.
 
Yes, the simple elongated display... instead of a radical change forcing developers to embrace resolution independence... has Jobs' non-techie salesman influence written all over it.

Just as with the pixel doubling, it's an easy way of updating the screen while still keeping legacy app support. Minimal size change also plays to the consumer who is comfortable with what they have now. Ditto for lack of major iOS modifications.

In other words, Apple is getting trapped with legacy tech and market issues just as others had been. Not having those problems was a major factor that allowed Apple to leap ahead in 2007. Now they seem headed down the same path that Windows Mobile, RIM OS and Symbian took. They're afraid of messing too much with a known success.

Apple has never, literally never, been a company known for introducing change for no good reason. They are not going to reinvent the wheel just for the sake of being interesting.

Steve has been preaching the merits of simplicity and accessibility since day one. People that like Apple get this; people that don't want new flies in the ointment to spice up their life.

Furthermore, I am not seeing anything all that special coming out of the competition. Certainly nothing game changing where Apple needs to get reactionary and upend itself to keep up.
 
You're looking at those same rumours and making assumptions it hasn't changed. So you're not only making an assumption yourself, you're making a stupid assumption..

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So WTF DO you want? A round phone? A pyramid? A spike? A dildo? A t-bone steak? A football?

This is a good question, i would like to see what the biggest critics on here post a drawing or mock up of what direction they think Apple should take the iPhone. I do not mean just post an existing phone and say make it look like this, but really put some time and thought into it. Post the shape and design you would get excited about (i'm talking just the design/shape not the spec's).
 
This is a good question, i would like to see what the biggest critics on here post a drawing or mock up of what direction they think Apple should take the iPhone.

I can't post a picture, but what I want is:

half the thickness
twice the memory
twice the battery life
half the weight.
scratch and dent proof - let me toss it around for 2 years and resell as pristine.

Oh, and when I want one, it should extract atoms from the surrounding air and form them into a hardware keyboard. When I'm done typing, it should reform again into chocolate chip cookies.

If Steve was alive we'd have this already. Tim just isn't up to the job.
 
I can't post a picture, but what I want is:

half the thickness
twice the memory
twice the battery life
half the weight.
scratch and dent proof - let me toss it around for 2 years and resell as pristine.

Oh, and when I want one, it should extract atoms from the surrounding air and form them into a hardware keyboard. When I'm done typing, it should reform again into chocolate chip cookies.

If Steve was alive we'd have this already. Tim just isn't up to the job.

I assume you are not, i was though. I would like to know what changes in design and shape that the critics on her would like to see. Again not spec changes just shape and design.
 

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I assume you are not, i was though. I would like to know what changes in design and shape that the critics on her would like to see. Again not spec changes just shape and design.

Well I'm not one of those critics. Basically a phone is a flattish rectangle for the same reason a TV, computer monitor and movie screen are - they're 95% display.

So the only big changes I want to see in an iPhone are those that are currently unachievable. You're not going to get an answer that makes sense. Oh sure, you can move the home button, change the colour, etc. But nothing that will count as a real redesign that will satisfy the critics who don't even know what they want to see.
 
Well I'm not one of those critics. Basically a phone is a flattish rectangle for the same reason a TV, computer monitor and movie screen are - they're 95% display.

So the only big changes I want to see in an iPhone are those that are currently unachievable. You're not going to get an answer that makes sense. Oh sure, you can move the home button, change the colour, etc. But nothing that will count as a real redesign that will satisfy the critics who don't even know what they want to see.

I understand where you are coming from. I guess all of the endless post, rants and "that is not what steve would have done" comments are getting to me. I have seen very few actual suggestions on what the radical change could be that would sastisify them. Again not specs, those are easy to come up with, i am talking a groundbreaking new design or shape.
 
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