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A decade ago, nobody would've thought that we can now browse the internet, compose e-mails, play games, and chat on a portable tablet that can fit into our pockets.

I did a presentation around 1997 predicting we'd all be carrying around a single device that replaced our phone, watch, Internet device, wallet and keys. Well we're not quite there yet, but we're well on our way! (I also predicted that the Internet would become so ubiquitous that we'd stop talking about using the Internet — just like we don't talk about using electricity. Maybe one day.)

Anyway, it's one thing to speculate about technology, and another thing entirely to make it happen. Really wish I'd purchased Apple shares back then! Hats off to Steve for Apple's amazing turnaround.
 
I'm grateful to witness history.

He will truly be remembered as one of the great's!

Bravo!!
 
Where does he get those wonderful toys?


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The title sits ok with me
Though not a perfect CEO and not the easiest person to work for
He did usher in cool game changing products
And lead a consistantly innovative company - A quality many other companies should strive for
Congrats Mr. Jobs
 
This company re-invented the way we look at portable computing. A decade ago, nobody would've thought that we can now browse the internet, compose e-mails, play games, and chat on a portable tablet that can fit into our pockets.

I was doing most of the above (except chat) with my Palm V a decade ago. Slower, monochrome, pen interface, with a chunky cellular modem stuck to the back of a pocket-sized tablet, but that's just technology catching up with the paradigm. Steve reportedly tried to buy the company.
 
I know, cue the haters who want to talk about how evil Jobs is. But I think this is an accurate assessment. Look at the impact Apple has had this decade:

* They own the portable music player market, and they got there from a standing start.
MP3 players came around 98-99 apple entered the market 2000-2001

Everyone had a "standing" start.


* Smart phones now, by default, look like iPhones. Why? Because iPhones are the gold standard.
BS, pda and phones already had a simular format long before iphone was shown. There just isnt a lot of choice. Simular GUI as wel btw.


* The tablet market is suddenly thriving after a decade of stagnation.
Just as with the smartphone the technology has gotten to a point where it is relativly cheap to manufacture (btw just as with smartphones and mp3 players)

* Third parties are making lots of money by manufacturing and selling software for the App Store or add-ons for the gadgets.
Just like they do with every other platform.

* The Mac market is growing steadily after last decade's decline.
But still remains a niche market, in the US and certainly worlwide.

So one company is setting the tone for phones, music players and tablets. Not bad for a company thought to be almost dead a decade ago. A good CEO indeed.

Depends on how you look at it, jobs joined in 97, they didn regain 97 levels until 2000, 95 levels it took until 2005 .

I think its more apple itself then just jobs.
 
Yes he's a brilliant man that has played the game well. He's used the latitude for corruption, deception and a distinct lack of ethics, in our society, to his and Apple's advantage. There's nothing unique about that type of technique either, as many are rewarded for slippery dealings as long as they "show us the money".

Hate is something I have no time for. It's a wasted emotion that doesn't apply in nearly every case. A guy like jobs is not someone I would hate, just a guy I don't happen to agree with. Again nothing new, as the world would be a really dull place if we all agreed.

What impresses me, is the way that some CEO's do a great job in a responsible, ethical, honest way. They avoid the temptation of being corrupt, of using deception and slight of hand. Those are the true champions in my opinion. I would truly like to see Steve Jobs operate in this fashion.

Don't get me wrong I _really liked_ the man Steve Jobs was... in the early days of Apple.

I just don't care for how he has morphed into his present day persona. His extreme arrogance and narcissistic ways. Someone who's only accomplishment at this point is creating the cash cow that is Apple.

Personally if the "old Steve Jobs" was at the helm of Apple, the company would be even MORE Successful, it would Generate MORE Revenue!

And it would be VOID of the annoyances of his condescending attitude ("you're holding it wrong") towards those customers who have PAID the money that has made Apple what it is.

That said, here are three examples of why many thousands upon thousands of people feel the same way that I do about Jobs.



Report: "Apple, Steve Jobs, Executives, Board, Sued for Securities Fraud"

http://www.informationweek.com/news/global-cio/legal/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=208802018

Report: "Jerome York “Disgusted” that Jobs Concealed Health Problems"

http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/arti...isgusted_that_jobs_concealed_health_problems/

Report: "Apple Engineer Told Jobs IPhone Antenna Might Cut Calls"

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-...jobs-last-year-about-iphone-antenna-flaw.html

Agreed
 
Someone who's only accomplishment at this point is creating the cash cow that is Apple.

He is someone whose accomplishments include constructing a sentence that makes sense. Yours is wrong in so many ways.

First, "whose" is the possessive form. (The apostrophe in "who's" is there to mess with lesser minds.)

Second, "only" suggests insignificant, but the cash cow that is Apple is not.

Third, it's wrong. He also created the cash cow that is Pixar, the technology cow that is (or was) Next, and he has a daughter. There may be other things.

Personally if the "old Steve Jobs" was at the helm of Apple, the company would be even MORE Successful, it would Generate MORE Revenue!

What? You're not making sense. Did the old Steve Jobs give you a slice, so you'd be personally richer if he were running Apple?

That said, here are three examples of why many thousands upon thousands of people feel the same way that I do about Jobs.

Considering there are millions upon millions of satisfied Apple customers, that's an enviable record. Most CEO's would kill for a 1000:1 record like that.

Report: "Apple, Steve Jobs, Executives, Board, Sued for Securities Fraud"

They're suing Jobs for causing Apple's stock to drop. What a joke!
 
He is someone whose accomplishments include constructing a sentence that makes sense. Yours is wrong in so many ways.
Oh samwight... so judgmental.

1) This is a casual forum of public opinion

2) I've already done my formal thesis & graduated

3) My post was written using the tiny window of my iPhone 4, while waiting at JFK for my next flight.

You try that...

Try to relax... reach for your sense of humor (if you have one).

Me? I'll go on enjoying this forum, where we are all welcome to write in any style we wish.

Cheers... :)
 
MP3 players came around 98-99 apple entered the market 2000-2001

Everyone had a "standing" start.



BS, pda and phones already had a simular format long before iphone was shown. There just isnt a lot of choice. Simular GUI as wel btw.



Just as with the smartphone the technology has gotten to a point where it is relativly cheap to manufacture (btw just as with smartphones and mp3 players)


Just like they do with every other platform.


But still remains a niche market, in the US and certainly worlwide.



Depends on how you look at it, jobs joined in 97, they didn regain 97 levels until 2000, 95 levels it took until 2005 .

I think its more apple itself then just jobs.

Everyone had a standing start in the MP3 market, but it was Apple that dominated it. Which was my point, so why did you quibble?

I wasn't talking about the generic way PDAs look, but the specific way that iPhones look that is now being used as the template for smart phones until the new Microsoft phones just came out years later. Which was my point, so why did you quibble?

Yes, the tablet market is now ripe, so why was it Apple that suddenly dominated it instead of HP who hyped their product in January only to go back to the drawing board? Which was my point, so why did you quibble?

The Mac market is about 25% of the consumer market, so while a niche is a lot bigger than it used to be. Which was my point, so why did you quibble?

I know why you quibbled. You can't stand to see Steve Jobs get credit even though he was the driving force behind all of the above.
 
1) This is a casual forum of public opinion

Right. And I expressed my opinion that yours were based on nonsense. Casually.

2) I've already done my formal thesis & graduated

It didn't show.

3) My post was written using the tiny window of my iPhone 4, while waiting at JFK for my next flight.

That doesn't excuse the spewing of nonsense.
Try to relax... reach for your sense of humor (if you have one).

I'm sorry you were not amused by the reference to producing offspring as an accomplishment. And I'm sorry I missed the part of your original post that was intended to be funny. Maybe you can point it out.

Me? I'll go on enjoying this forum, where we are all welcome to write in any style we wish.

...but are still expected to make sense.
 
Everyone had a standing start in the MP3 market, but it was Apple that dominated it. Which was my point, so why did you quibble?
You added as if it was something special, it wasnt. Market is disapearing btw.


I wasn't talking about the generic way PDAs look, but the specific way that iPhones look that is now being used as the template for smart phones until the new Microsoft phones just came out years later. Which was my point, so why did you quibble?
The only remotly distinct is 1 front button, the screen the shape had all been done before the iphone. And I barely see any smartphones with just 1 front button.


Yes, the tablet market is now ripe, so why was it Apple that suddenly dominated it instead of HP who hyped their product in January only to go back to the drawing board? Which was my point, so why did you quibble?
You seem to think that apple is a small non consumer oriented enterprise. It isnt, its one of the if not the largest in the world, so I am not suprised .

Without apple it would have gotten there also, you pretend as if apple invents the market wich isnt the case.


The Mac market is about 25% of the consumer market, so while a niche is a lot bigger than it used to be. Which was my point, so why did you quibble?
25%?

https://www.macrumors.com/2010/07/15/gartner-u-s-mac-sales-market-share-nearing-10/

10% USA

5% or less wordwide.



I know why you quibbled. You can't stand to see Steve Jobs get credit even though he was the driving force behind all of the above.

If you want to believe that its your choice, I only see great product who could have been perfect but arent probably thx to steve jobs.
 
*sigh*

You want to believe your fantasies, go right ahead. I was talking about the consumer market, you show me worldwide overall market stats and think you made a point other than showing me you didn't read what I wrote.

You lose the MP3 argument, so you shift your point to something else and then pretend it's not important anyway. Intellectual dishonesty.

I wasn't talking about the hardware of smart phones (the one button part of your switched argument), but the look of the phone's screens and icon usage and touch approach. There was a look of smart phones before the iPhone, and then there was the iPhone and suddenly smart phones looked like them.

I never said Apple invented the tablet market, just that they immediately dominated it once they entered it. Which they did.
 
If you want to believe that its your choice, I only see great product who could have been perfect but arent probably thx to steve jobs.

This, btw, is the key to your mindset. You don't like Steve Jobs, so you can't stand that I said something good about him. Get over it.
 
You added as if it was something special, it wasnt. .

Dominating a market you come late to is something special.

The only remotly distinct is 1 front button, the screen the shape had all been done before the iphone. And I barely see any smartphones with just 1 front button.

Most smartphones before Apple looked like Blackberries with keyboards and scroll wheels; even the ones made by Palm, whose previous PDAs were closer in appearance and operation to the iphone (albeit stylus-based). Now, nearly all look like the iphone, and work with multitouch.

Without apple it would have gotten there also, you pretend as if apple invents the market wich isnt the case.

There's no evidence for that, and most people regard it as pretty obvious that Apple in fact created the new tablet market.


Those numbers include enterprise sales, which Apple does not compete in, and (according to Munster) make up about 70% of the market. In the consumer space Apple's share is > 20% in the US (macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/16846/), and in universities, it is much higher still; well past niche status.


If you want to believe that its your choice, I only see great product who could have been perfect but arent probably thx to steve jobs.


I don't follow. There are many other tech companies that Steve Jobs doesn't run, and they have not created the perfect product.
 
This, btw, is the key to your mindset. You don't like Steve Jobs, so you can't stand that I said something good about him. Get over it.

I have no problem with steve jobs itself, done a lot of good as far as I am aware, yet I dont have to like evry decision he makes now do I?
 
Dominating a market you come late to is something special.
They werent late.

Was android late in the smartphone markt? Yet for the moment they are dominating it. Dont see a alot of people cheering on google.


Most smartphones before Apple looked like Blackberries with keyboards and scroll wheels; even the ones made by Palm, whose previous PDAs were closer in appearance and operation to the iphone (albeit stylus-based). Now, nearly all look like the iphone, and work with multitouch.
BS, perhaps you are too young, or never had a PDA smartphone pre iphone but a lot of the had simular shape and simular placement of buttons and jacks :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPAQ

http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=343&view=1&c=acer_n311 (<- had this one for example)

check out http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdamaster they all share the same basic design, rectangular shape, central button below, screen above . Power/connecting at the bottom, headphone top, volume on the sides. Iphone had only the 1 button the differentiate itself, and I dont see a lot of smartphones copying that.




There's no evidence for that, and most people regard it as pretty obvious that Apple in fact created the new tablet market.
No evidence? I would say the dozen of tablets out or coming out are pretty good evidence (do you know how long it takes to develop a consumer product from scratch?)



Those numbers include enterprise sales, which Apple does not compete in, and (according to Munster) make up about 70% of the market. In the consumer space Apple's share is > 20% in the US (macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/16846/), and in universities, it is much higher still; well past niche status.
That apple doesnt compete on enterprise market is by own choice, I see no reason to inflate there numbers by cutting out markets.

Btw nice twisting the words on your own source "a segment Apple is not aggressively targeting," becomes "does not compete in"

Numbers are there: 5% worldwide, that enteprise seems to ignore apple is also evidence it is a niche market.





I don't follow. There are many other tech companies that Steve Jobs doesn't run, and they have not created the perfect product.
irrelevant as those arent apple.
 
Was android late in the smartphone markt? .

They were late in the multitouch iphone type market.

Yet for the moment they are dominating it. Dont see a alot of people cheering on google.

They are certainly doing well. Worldwide, I wouldn't call it dominating yet.
But as for people crowing about it? That's just about all I see. And on Apple fan sites yet.

BS, perhaps you are too young, or never had a PDA smartphone pre iphone but a lot of the had simular shape and simular placement of buttons and jacks :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPAQ

http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=343&view=1&c=acer_n311 (<- had this one for example)

check out http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdamaster they all share the same basic design, rectangular shape, central button below, screen above .

You're confirming what I said. Those are not smartphones, and they use a stylus, not multi-touch. And the Palm-invented full-screen stylus-based form had been pretty much abandoned for smartphones by the time iphone came along in favor of the Blackberry form factor, even by Palm itself. Now they're all full-screen, multitouch-driven, like the iphone.

No evidence? I would say the dozen of tablets out or coming out are pretty good evidence (do you know how long it takes to develop a consumer product from scratch?)

Having a product in development doesn't create a market. Having it on the market does. And I know how long it takes to radically change the direction of product development in response to a market that Apple invents: The time from when iphone came out until all the Android phones looked and worked like iphones.


That apple doesnt compete on enterprise market is by own choice, I see no reason to inflate there numbers by cutting out markets.

It also doesn't compete in mainframe computers or in selling shoes. Should we include those sales in the numbers. Apple has targeted the consumer market, and they have succeeded in significantly growing their share of that market. That represents success.

Btw nice twisting the words on your own source "a segment Apple is not aggressively targeting," becomes "does not compete in"

It wasn't a quote, it was a paraphrase, and I don't see a significant change in the meaning.

Numbers are there: 5% worldwide, that enteprise seems to ignore apple is also evidence it is a niche market.

Apple chooses its markets to maximize profits. Call it niche if it makes you feel better. But that niche is all Apple needs to make more money selling PCs than all the other PC manufacturers combined. Including the enterprise market.

irrelevant as those arent apple.

Apple without Jobs sank to near bankruptcy. Your statement still doesn't make sense.
 
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