Bingo - Dalaran has low frame rates due to CPU consumption - it has nothing to do with the graphics requirements.
I laugh at people who say they are "lagged" in Dalaran. They're not lagged and it's not their internet connection, their computer is underpowered.
Well Dalaran gives low FPS for everyone when it's busy, nothing to do with underpowered computers. I agree though that when they say lag they are using that phrase wrongly. Lag is latency etc. When Wintergrasp is on there is lag though.
That's a fairly significant difference in power consumption by itself. NOW, in order to use the i3, they would have had to add discrete graphics, as well. So the CPU uses 10W more plus an extra 20W? 30W? for the discrete graphics.
Plus the higher cost.
But the i3 would be running for a shorter time, and the discrete graphics isn't used unless you are running something that can benefit. The point about cost is correct though.
RESEARCH tells me - the Asus is heavier, thicker and has half the battery life.
Who buys a Mac for gaming? The people who buy Macs are generally more sophisticated. Macs are a lifestlye choice for those who prefer reliability and elegance and not just specs.
I'm just fine with occasionally playing a Steam game. It's not my life and I don't care about picking up an extra 5fps on my opponent.
You admit that you do play games. Not that much more sophisticated then. It's not about getting extra FPS on your opponent it's about getting a solid framerate and better game experience. 30 FPS is considered playable, but if you build your own computer you will aim for 60FPS because the experience is much smoother and vivid. 60FPS is around the mark that the human eye stops noticing any difference, although there is some debate. You choose a computer that is about style, and I choose a computer that delivers what I want.
PC trolls are insane to go after the 13" MBP.
In case you hadn't noticed, it's not just the PC users that are going after it.
An i-series processor demands a discrete graphics chip (has everyone so easily forgotten how TERRIBLE intel's integrated graphics chips are? they were only the main point of discontent post-Intel transition until the nVidia switch),
This is not the same generation of integrated graphics as the much maligned GMA series. Although the new CPU integrated graphics are not mind blowing they actually benchmark a little behind the 9400M which was in the last series of Macbooks.
So don't!
What is with you people that want just what you want.
Bloody hell what a bunch.
Hey I want a MBP 17" for ..... let's see.... $99. Waaaaaaaaaa!!!!
Duh. He wanted a next generation processor and he hoped to buy the 13" one. His complaint isn't about the price of the 17"
Did you read the review? Do you actually want that computer? It's a great specs sheet contender, but does that actually pan out?.
Problems include it's thickness and weight (I guess I know how they wedged a discrete graphics card in there) and a terrible display (which not only negates the purpose of having a discrete graphics card, but is also probably where the cost savings come from). Oh, and they got a whopping 4 hours of battery life out of it. Yeah, good comparison.
I found this review to be a bit better.
http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=5591&review=asus+U30JC+nvidia+optimus
I will say the screen on the Asus isn't as good as what you get on the MBP, or Vaio Z.
310 m isn't superior to the 320m right?
Core i3 isn't superior to c2d?
Battery life is shorter?
Built in quality is poorer?
Definitively, i rather spend 200$ more for th mbp
All 3 of you miss the point. The claim was that it was impossible to fit a discrete graphics chip inside a 13" case. He gave that laptop as an example that it was possible. Not as some sort of alternative.
If you couldn't answer questions then that means you don't know the answer otherwise you would have and sarcastically at that. You're messing with the wrong guy. I'm the one who grew up in the ghetto reading Tolstoy, Dostoyevsky, Salinger, Chekov, etc. for fun and made it my own way with lousy parents while raising two sisters (one of whom is in an Ivy League school and the other will follow). Everything I've earned, given away, sacrificed or learned is well owned and not bought.
Trust me, you're the one who's embarrasing himself.
Gosh and through all that you never lost your humility.
What it all comes down to is they could have put in a faster CPU or GPU and went with the GPU. I wonder how many people will actually want a faster GPU. How many applications actually benefit from being accelerated on the GPU, as opposed to having more cores?
